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Old 05-26-2013, 12:38 AM
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Can I use + P ammo in a model 64-3 ? The barrel says 38 special. Thanks
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Shooting +P in a 64-3 should not be a problem at all.

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Can I use + P ammo in a model 64-3 ? The barrel says 38 special. Thanks
Of course you can. The whole issue over whether or not this or that S&W revolver can use +P only came about when they started introducing models with aluminum frames and cylinders. When they dropped the aluminum cylinders due to very short lifespans, the issue persisted regarding the aluminum framed revolvers, but it has no relation at all to all-steel S&W revolvers, not matter the model, so long as it's not an antique, as gun steels were softer back then.

Now, will a regular diet of +P accelerate wear? Sure. At least some. So don't feed it a regular diet of the stuff if you plan to pass it on to your grandkids.

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Thank you both for your imput. Now I know the answer to my question.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:18 AM
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Yes. If it has a Model Number marked in the yoke and it is a steel frame, you can use +P.

+P is not like a bomb going off, and to be honest, it is not as hot as the old 38/44 round, which S&W at one time certified for use in K frame M&Ps in order to compete with Colt's Police Positive and Official Police models, which were certified for the 38/44.

Use +P to your heart's content. Your wallet will wear out long before your gun.
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Yes. If it has a Model Number marked in the yoke and it is a steel frame, you can use +P.
Thanks. I hadn't known of that handy "Model Number in the yoke" standard before now. I'll add it to my reservoir of useful information on S&W revolvers. Could you elaborate? Why is that a good standard to go by? Thanks again.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:53 AM
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+P is not like a bomb going off, and to be honest, it is not as hot as the old 38/44 round, which S&W at one time certified for use in K frame M&Ps in order to compete with Colt's Police Positive and Official Police models, which were certified for the 38/44.

Use +P to your heart's content. Your wallet will wear out long before your gun.
I was already familiar with Colt certifying the Official Police for .38/44 soon after S&W came out with their Outdoorsman and Heavy Duty N-Frames chambered in it, but was not aware that S&W upped the ante by certifying their K-Frame .38s for it too. Can you offer a citation for this. I'd be interested in seeing that. Thanks.

I would challenge you, also, on Colt ever certifying their Police Positive for .38/44. Can you provide a citation? I'd be very surprised indeed if that turned out to be correct.
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I have three M-64's that I practice regularly with, shooting +P ammo ALL the time, and none are any the worse for wear after many thousands of rounds EACH. One of them has 20,000 rounds through it in the five years I've had it, and the only change is that the trigger has gotten better from all the double-action shooting I do. And it was pretty good when I got it!
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A 3" 64 is my 'go to range gun.' Over the ears I have fired many thousands of rounds with no problem.

100+ years ago they got the model 10 EXACTLY right. It got better, and stronger, with stainless.
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A 3" 64 is my 'go to range gun.' Over the ears I have fired many thousands of rounds with no problem.

100+ years ago they got the model 10 EXACTLY right. It got better, and stronger, with stainless.
I have the very same gun, and agree completely with your post.
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