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Old 08-29-2013, 06:25 PM
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I've had this 22-4 Model of 1917 .45 ACP Classic for a couple years now. There is no way in the world I could shoot this big old N frame with the tiny reproduction service stocks it came with. Originally, I replaced the grips with a set of unknown mfg. S&W Combat style grips. Next was a set of S&W Target Stocks. I didn't like how they felt or looked so a set of Ahrends retro targets were next. The Ahrends felt great, however, like all the other grips I tried they made me remove the most unique feature of the 1917, the lanyard ring. Gun looked exactly like a 1.5 inch longer version of my TRR 22-4.

So, I decided to order a BK grip adapter and a set of Altamont checkered super walnut magna style grips to go a bit more old school.

What do you guys think, does it look a bit more "right" while still being comfortable to shoot?

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Looks purty durn nice.Pretty spiffy in fact and a spectacular photo.

Just for fun, you should give those service grips a try some time. They might just surprise you.

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I also found the tiny 'original-style' grips to be brutal to shoot with: I was very surprised by this as .45ACP ball is not a heavy kicking round. I sent my '17 back to S&W as the sideplate had been improperly fitted and also asked them to remove the lanyard ring. I was then able to use Pachs and other grips.

I found a set of service N-frame Magna stocks at a show and now the gun looks 'right,' lanyard ring aside. These grips are also more comfy to shoot with than the 'splinters.' I still cannot understand how this N-frame gun, light that it is, can kick so hard with ACP. Anybody?
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I also found the tiny 'original-style' grips to be brutal to shoot with: I was very surprised by this as .45ACP ball is not a heavy kicking round...I still cannot understand how this N-frame gun, light that it is, can kick so hard with ACP. Anybody?
I dunno, but the old M1917s are the same. Not what i'd call "brutal", but certainly harder to control than one would expect.
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I also found the tiny 'original-style' grips to be brutal to shoot with: I was very surprised by this as .45ACP ball is not a heavy kicking round. I sent my '17 back to S&W as the sideplate had been improperly fitted and also asked them to remove the lanyard ring. I was then able to use Pachs and other grips.

I found a set of service N-frame Magna stocks at a show and now the gun looks 'right,' lanyard ring aside. These grips are also more comfy to shoot with than the 'splinters.' I still cannot understand how this N-frame gun, light that it is, can kick so hard with ACP. Anybody?
IMO, the main factor is the light barrel. A heavy barrel is not only more weight, but it is more weight out where it does some good, since the gun is basically trying to pivot the muzzle around your grip on the grips.

I tried my 22-4 with the service "stocks" and a Tyler, and it worked fairly well, but not as well as with Pachmayr Presentation (Small) grips. You can remove and replace the lanyard ring yourself, by removing or replacing the pin that holds it in.
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Re: OP. From the picture it looks like you've come up with just about the ideal solution.
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Beautiful gun and picture. It is the best looking 1917 I have seen.
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Thanks for the feedback, people. "Brutal" recoil refers to the scar tissue build-up in the web of my shooting hand. Had surgery for it years ago, am trying to put off a second procedure.

Interesting theory about the lightweight bbl/increased recoil! You are probably correct. My 625JM is much 'friendlier' probably because it is heavier. As you both say, still amazing, somewhat hard to believe. Appreciate the good words. Have a safe holiday.
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Beautiful gun and picture. It is the best looking 1917 I have seen.
Thank you.

The S&W Classics, while not true copies of the original S&W's of yore, are finely finished firearms. I think the magna grip/BK adapter works for this one. I'm looking for an affordable set of actual S&W magnas for it, until then the $42 Altamonts will suffice.
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Looks Good to me. I wonder how the black versions of the Altamont grips would look on that gun - retro tacticool
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I have the same problem. My hand hurts after 50 rounds through the 1917. I can shoot my 625 JM all day without any pain.
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Great looking guns!
I agree that round butt service grips are awful on this gun by themselves- I love the looks of the grip adapter on it.

I certainly didn't mind getting rid of the lanyard, so it wasn't a concern form me, and I added a set of Jordon Troopers from Herrett.

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Are my eyes deceiving me, or is that ivory-handled job a 'Velo-Dog' style revolver? What caliber is it? Mine is .25ACP but the 'rifling' has no spin, goes straight through. 6 feet max 'accurate' range.

jay moore et al: Thanks for corroborating my findings on 1917 recoil. I also often wonder why, when handguns were used more often than now, that the fixed sights on many were so poor, offering a miserable sight picture due to narrow rear notch and/or tiny front sight...

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I, for one, think it looks very "right"! How do you like the BK grip adapters?
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I, for one, think it looks very "right"! How do you like the BK grip adapters?
Am also curious about the BK. Just got a 25-5 w/ magnas and need something.... Tyler, BK, etc.
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So, I decided to order a BK grip adapter and a set of Altamont checkered super walnut magna style grips to go a bit more old school.

What do you guys think, does it look a bit more "right" while still being comfortable to shoot?
Do you have a larger head on the ejector rod?
It certainly looks like it. If you did, please elaborate- I would love such a modification.
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... I also often wonder why, when handguns were used more often than now, that the fixed sights on many were so poor, offering a miserable sight picture due to narrow rear notch and/or tiny front sight...
I can only guess that given the short life expectancy a century ago, less old fellers were shooting. Little bitty sights are no problem for younger folk! I used to do quite well with the teeny sights on the Colt 1900/1902/1903 .38 ACP pistols in IDPA. (Lower round counts were helpful and the full sized model fits "the box" like it was designed around it!)
No great loss of speed and pinpoint front sight placement. But now??? Gotta hunt for it!
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