If set up properly it ought not take much tweaking at all.

The $1000 price tag for the revolver isn't so big a factor as the cost of the ammo for most competitors. Back when I was "serious" about shooting and factory ammo was cheap, burning 2-3000 centerfire rounds a month (spread over several firearms, granted) was not unusual. Which expenditure quickly eclipses the firearm's price! What's needed is reliability, ergomonics, and good accessories.

They appear to be LPA sights imported from Italy by Precision Sales International (PSI). I have a rear sight (non-FO) coming for my 27-4.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

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Any idea who the distributor is for the 929 PC#170341 ?

Tom

The distributor locks to be standard PC production. This is not a Banger or Lew Horton deal. MSRP $1279 (Ill take 3)
The video is down and should be back after the official announcement at SHOT.


This gun is exactly what ICORE shooters have been begging for for 10 years. After all, only 300 6.5" 8 shot revolvers were made (100 Banger 27-7's and 200 Lew Horton PC627's) ICORE shooters have been clamoring for a 6"+ barreled 8 shot PC produced gun. If action revolver running and gunning is not your forte, lets be clear. A great number of ICORE shooters run short colt cartridges (ie. rimmed 9mm) vs. 38 special in the ever popular 627 variety's often with 327 cylinders installed. A 9mm - 6.5" - 8 shot Ti cylinder, gun is game specifically exactly what a majority of ICORE shooters have been begging for and told is coming for years! So before you "Blue forum" purist poo-poo this beautiful revolver, I suggest you visit your local ICORE or USPSA club and see what all the whooplah is all about. I would hate to cut up another one of my 27-7's in reserve to accomplish the same thing.

This is all the PC929 porn I currently have.

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It will be great if the barrel is .355!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone been able to order one yet?

Thanks
Tom

Distributors are showing 0 quantities. However it is a standard part number. Let's hope they keep producing until interest subsides.

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S&W came out with two 9 mm rev. I want to order one but i don't see the barrel size that you were talking about. .355 vs 357. When you have time can you go to sw site and tell me, out of the two rev. witch one would be more of a bullseye gun ?
Thanks

This gun is strictly a game gun built for Jerry Miculek because he's getting too old to shoot major. That's why the sport went to an 8 shot minor along with some Bravo Sierra about getting more shooters into the sport.

The 9mm is better than a .38 super or super comp because of it's powder efficiency for minor power factor loads. It makes sense also for the chambering of 9mm because it is not a reloader only proposition.

Yes it probably be a great idea in 40 or 10, but then they'd be up on the X frame. It would probably be an awesome idea to get the X built in Scandium and a titanium cylinder. It would be a bit clunky, but would probably be a great revolver.

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Bull....

A LOT of ICORE and USPSA shooters have been clamoring for an 8-shot 9mm revolver (like the M627.)

Many, including myself, have been using .38 Short Colt brass in the M627 - with great results.

As for Jerry M, well, he is still the greatest although there are a few great shooters right on his heels!

Remember, in ICORE there is NO Major PF.

The great debate (USPSA) is "how will 8-shot Minor PF stack up against 6-shot Major PF?" Beginning in February, we'll see!

Forgive me, I'm just some idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about. He walked away from his signature grips for the X frame grips...because of sore hands. He's seen in videos with the tennis elbow brace on. Major is no joke when you're shooting 50,000 plus rounds a year and he was probably doing that 3 or 4 times over. Now the eight shot comes through and he's got a signature gun? C'mon.

Matt Griffin, Cliff Walsh, and Ricardo Lopez are all better shooters, but don't seem to have the luck and doubles that he does. Remember when Olhasso's target got pulled? Enough said there.

ICORE? We don't seem to have that much in VA and NC where I'm shooting. It's a neat game, but seems to be stronger on the west coast. 120 PF perfect for a 9mm. This isn't the reason this gun came out. They are expecting everyone to switch to 8 shot minor in USPSA and it will reload smoother and faster than a .357.

There is no debate in 8 minor vs. 6 major for USPSA. The arrays are eight shot friendly. No standing reloads. That's a reload per array if you have a straight eight shot arrays. Five reloads to three in a field course? That's six seconds or more depending on how tight or long the shots are. Revolver shooters all shoot well above C class. The delineators are foot work, stage breakdown and the smoothness of the reload. The eight shot can shoot a six shot plan and have makeups or he can run an eight shot plan and leave you in the dust on the hit factor over just a few stages if you figure an A a second average. He can get points that aren't worth it for a six shot competitor to reload for. Best of luck.

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Sorry. No one called you an "idiot."

My point was/is that a LOT of shooters have been asking for the 8-shot in 9mm for a long time. It just makes sense.

Of course there are some super shooters that are right up there with Jerry.

As I mentioned, many are already using "virtually" the same thing as the 9mm - the .38 Short Colt. Am I interested in the 9mm 8-shot? Sure. But won't be a priority for me as I already am set up with the M627 and .38 Short Colt (which is, for lack of a better term, virtually a rimmed 9mm) and $$$ is always an issue!

You are no doubt correct about the 6- versus 8-shot arrays.

A look at the currently registered USPSA Revolver Nationals shooters shows there are a LOT of Major shooters signed up. Will some of them switch to Minor when they get there? Perhaps; maybe even probably. We'll see. It will be interesting.

Scoring Minor will be a downside, but as you mentioned, might very well be offset by number of reloads required. At the Nationals, a LOT will depend on the arrays.

You lost me at "That's why the sport went to 8 shot"

For 21 years Jerry Has been World Champion at a revolver sport that has already allowed 8 shots of major or minor. This gun is not a result of anything USPSA is doing, going to do, or done.... This one just fell into the few USPSA shooters laps at a perfect time.

Some of you who know nothing other than USPSA will want to make claim to this gun, however I assure you. USPSA and their 46 revolver shooters had nothing to do with this.

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Yes it will be that good.

Broached cut 1/10 barrel

The NEW Smith & Wesson 929 Jerry Miculek Pro Series 9mm revolver! - YouTube

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Just saw that, I will take 3.

HAHAHA, sad but true. Revolver is the only division where I can consistently come in first place or 2nd on a bad day when I have a competitor at the local club.

The 9mm makes best sense from the moonclip, brass cost, powder efficiency, and reload speed standpoints. The extractor groove is SAAMI spec'd. It's considerably cheaper to get brass. The case is smaller and uses powder more efficiently and the pointy 9mm bullets find the hole very easily.
As it will likely be the same COF as Singlestack, the eight shots will reign supreme. I don't feel like scoring minor is a downside at all because the time saved will offset the odd Charlie. Likely the better shooters will see what looks better for breakdowns, 8 or 6 and have both on hand.

ICORE isn't very popular out east...the only club in my state closed up three years ago. So how about that? I have thought for sometime now ICORE has stood for In California Only Revolvers Endure. You can't be serious with the statement that this gun just happened to be timed well for USPSA and was really S&W listening to ICORE shooters. The most competitive gun in USPSA was the 5" 625, which has not been offered for sometime now by Smith. They only offer the idpa legal version which, while a great gun, doesn't find the favor in the winner's circle and is an even more laughable market than the 46 USPSA shooters. So with that all being said and the new 8-shot minor coming into effect they decided to finally field a 9mm offering. Yes it's ported and you can shoot open in ICORE provided you can make enough gas to run the comp. Or you can shoot steel challenge with it. It's a very versatile gun, but nobody listened to the ICORE folks until it was a great time for USPSA shooters to buy a new wheel gun. You guys were happy enough with the .357/.38's

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I want one to shoot for fun, plain and simple. I have two multi-caliber wheel guns, shooting them is fun. Versatile home defense/carry guns, too.

Heck, I might squirrel hunt with it!!

Will the Titanium cylinder have problems? I seem to recall reading about erosion issues with these.

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ForrestinMathews,

Maybe. But maybe NOT.

The USPSA 8-shot announcement is a fairly recent announcement.

It is entirely possible, perhaps even likely, the 8-shot 9mm 929 was 'in the works' prior to its recent announcement.

Your prediction is duly noted. Many others have opined similarly. I reckon we'll wait and see. USPSA 8-shot rule becomes effective Feb 1. The Revolver Nationals match is May 4.

Not sure why ICORE isn't as popular in your area. Too bad as its a great sport also. And seems to be growing.

I think your comment about "the 46 USPSA revolver shooters" is off base and uncalled for. True, its not a large division. But when they had the stand alone Revolver Nationals last year, there was a huge increase in registered shooters.

At any rate, who cares? The 929 should be a great revolver!

The eight shot movement had sufficient momentum the minute it left the rumor mill. It was driven by industry, which always wins.

ICORE was the first shooting organization I became a life member of in an attempt to keep it strong in my area. Very sad that it did not work.

Bombmaster coined the 46 shooters. Not me.

We will definitely see how cool the 929 will be!

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Why do you have that belief?

Those are the LPA sights

http://www.lpasights.com/en/products...facturer_id=24

Although I've not tried it, many say (and it stands to reason) accuracy can suffer when you shoot a .355" bullet down a .357" barrel.

I have tried it, with many converted revolvers. Including the 627 pictured above, several J-frames and others from different manufacturers

Many get confused with the different concepts of bore diameter and groove diameter

Accuracy is mostly a function of the spin imparted on the projectile. As long as the rifling engages the projectile and makes it spin, accuracy will be good, especially with jacketed projectiles. This is where groove diameter is important.

This is why heavy leaded barrels have poor accuracy. The lead has filed the gap between bore and groove creating essentially a smoothbore. So spin is no longer imparted on the projectile.

Roger that. Not much argument from me.

I do understand. After all, my Single Six shoot pretty darned accurate with both the .22 LR and .22 WMR cylinders, and those bullets are of different diameters. Same for the Blackhawk convertibles, .357/9mm, etc; I've heard of good accuracy.

So, you've not had any accuracy nor fouling problems with shooting .355" bullets down a .357" bore?

Obviously there is a limit somewhere. In extreme cases, with gases rushing past the bullet as it rattles down the bore, accuracy can't be good!

Product: Model 929

Product: Model 986


There are two 9mm revolvers on Smith & Wesson now

For those that wont make it to SHOT here is a shot my buddy took of the left side. The 1/10 broach cut will make this pronominal for shooting all weights of .355 sized bullets.

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I would buy in a second if this were a 5" offering. It may take me a minute since it is 6-1/2" I have been shooting 9mm out of my 627-4 with good results, but I really like the looks of the new 929.

Hack the barrel down to 5"!!! Done right, everyone would think it was a factory prototype!
Sight radius-wise, its closer to a 6" gun, because 1/2" of the barrel is reaching for the shorter cylinder. Order one! I can't wait to get the call that mine is in.

"... an N-Frame, 8 shot, 9mm a very bad set up ..."

That is an interesting statement.

Especially in view of the fact that many, MANY competition shooters have been clamoring for it for years.

Hypothetical question: If you hunt with a rifle, would you call a $3000 benchrest rifle a "bad set up" and "ugly"?

Smith and Wesson has introduced a 5" 9MM revovler this year. It is the 986. A 7 shout L-frame that is a pro series so it will be less expensive than the JM 929.

I shot it in Monday and posted a quick photo of it in this thread
From the SHOT Show 2014

As these gain in popularity I am certain we will see other barrel lengths introduced

...........but rarely a closed mouth!
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Then why be in this thread?
Do you go to the Ruger forum and tell them how ugly Rugers are?
Would you go to the Antiques forum here and tell posters you have no use for Antiques?
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I deleted about 20 posts here. Most did not add anything of value to the discussion of this new model. They were mainly of the "useless", "not interested", "will never buy one" ilk.

There is a strange dynamic in play in this 1980 to Present forum.
People not interested in old S&W's don't usually enter the other revolver forums to express their lack of interest in, or outright disdain for those items, yet it has always been common here.

That will change.

Enthusiasts of modern S&W's now have equal rights on this forum. They can enjoy discussing and posting their guns just like people enjoy their older revolvers in the other three revolver forums on this board.

You are all invited to enjoy discussion of what you like on this board.
The haters and bashers are invited to shut up, or leave. We're all really tired of it.

Recommended Reading-
Bashing, Crying, and Whining

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So here's my latest dilemma, this gun comes out right at the same time a matched set of shorty vaquero birds heads comes up for private sale. Life is cruel. On the up side I no longer have that lease hanging over my head... They are never going to stop making new cool stuff and that combined with old cool stuff that surfaces makes life so difficult at times.

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Has anyone bought these guns? I want reports ?

Thank you Lee. I found myself avoiding the S&W forum due to all the hating. It does indeed get old, fast!

I haven't seen one here yet. I do know that there are more than a few on pre-order, with some of the USPSA and ICORE guys buying two or more!

The answer is easy, buy the matched set and put a 929 on Lay-A-Way paying it off a little each week.

They are not yet flowing like some of the other new offerings for 2014.

The 5" 986 will probably be available to your dealer sooner than the 929

I might have to take a long look at this model. I would like to see the 8 shot in a 5 or 5.5" but I can certainly live with the longer barrel. I love how the new 986 is looking also. It has the 5" length I prefer but it's only a 7 shot. Either way I am happy to see new revolver choices.

I will add I am glad for the new policy I was getting pretty sick of the bashing. It was way past old and tiresome. I love the new revolvers and I love some of the old ones too. I'm just glad Smith still offers new choices. I only wish I had discovered revolvers sooner.

I put both the 5 in. and the 6 in. on order at my LGS but now he telling me to give him some money and to pick one. I'm looking for a good 9 mm. to shoot at the range. Out of the 2 revolvers i like the 5 in. but witch one would be a better shooter ?

My preference would be a 4" 986 & 5" 929. I shoot both USPSA & Idpa. Would like to try it in USPSA - would be a fun way to shoot a match!

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There was a reference to an April 1st release for this revolver... Where did you all hear this.. obviously I put money down on a 929 at a huge locally owned gun shop, and can't seem to find out even an estimated date that this is going to be available.. I am patient, but am fishing for any sort of insight.

Any news on the 929 or 986?

I received an email from Davidson's last Thursday at 1PM that the 929 was in stock. When I checked at 8 pm no longer available. So they should be out there.
Tom

I was lucky and Miami Police Supply (Manny) found one for me.

Comes with an unported tip to use in USPSA. An allen wrench is all you need to change it.

Reloading with the moonclips with jacketed 9mm is easy! I thought 8 rounds would make it more complicated, but it didn't. It's as easy as reloading the 625 with the big 45 acp 6 rounds.

Bur shooting... with that 6.5" barrel, is almost like shooting a 22LR!

The trigger was so light I had to make it harder so I wouldn't get misfires with reloads.

Sights are black. I installed a HiViz green front sight and it's perfect.

Holster - I adjusted one of my CR Speed holsters I had for length and with the fillers for the trigger guard, and it is working fine!
The moon clip holders - I'm using the same ones I use for the 6 round 45 acp so far.

Will be doing more ammo testing tonight with different brands and loads to find a good tune

If you want to shoot revolver in USPSA this is the one!

Got mine today. On order since June. Got 10 moon clips loaded. Range tomorrow. 929

Wow, it took almost 10 months from the model first being announced publicly, and the first inmates here actually receiving guns, at least as best I can tell. I recently special-ordered one and am hoping it'll show up in the not-too-distant future. Can't wait to get my hands on it!

929 shoots great. 80 rounds no problems. Going to change front sight and get some trigger work.

Dropped off at gunsmith for trigger work

Anyone got a line on a good, brand new one at a store? I can't seem to find any outside of gunbroker and they are going for around $1500.

-Torrentuser