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Old 12-24-2013, 01:19 AM
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Exclamation Model 929 PC (new for 2014)


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Always wanted 9 mm. Rev. PC -I haven't seen the price yet but i'm sure it's over $1000. That's going to be a hot seller if it's under 1k
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NICE!!!! Wonder how much? Retail probably around $1,300?
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NICE!!!! Wonder how much? Retail probably around $1,300?
I just was on line -can't find that gun on SW site. Just that video. Yes - i'm thinking List as high--$1500.00 --At $1000 would be good.
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Rough crowd!

Titanium cylinder, lower weight, low recoil, tuned trigger, least expensive and easy to find ammo.... I think it would be fun to shoot. For someone who just wants a cool target revolver, this might be the trick.

Can you put a red dot on it?
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Is this the answer to a question nobody asked?
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No, this is THE answer to the new USPSA rules allowing 8-shot revolvers - but they have to be scored minor. People will be clamoring to get one of these. This is very similar to the 627-4 PC that was built in limited quantities, and chambered in .38 Super. Only difference, beyond caliber, that I can see is the fluted titanium cylinder vs. the black, unfluted stainless cylinder of the 627-4. I'm assuming that, like the 627-4, this will come with a muzzle cap to replace the comp - since a comp would throw this in the Open division, where it wouldn't be competitive.

I have to greet this with some skepticism though. The video certainly looks legit, but I cannot find any reference to this model on either the web generally, nor S&W's site specifically. Being that April 1st is still a way off - I'll give this the benefit of the doubt. Smith will sell a ton of these, pretty much regardless of price.

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"9"29??? Since when did they start that? Or is this the first?
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I'm sure next year -5 in. then 2 in. so on-so on. I'm in with the 4 or 5 in. For $999.00.
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I think it looks pretty cool, the shorter 9mm cartridge would mean faster reloads. It looks like a bolt-on comp like the 629 v-comp so it probably has a plain comp as well. Not sure why the barrel is so long though, would be better with a 3" or 4" barrel.

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I dont know about the rest of you, but I noticed a new 460 in the background... Looks like their previous 3.5" Lew Horton model with no compensator and an unfluted cylinder
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I dont know about the rest of you, but I noticed a new 460 in the background... Looks like their previous 3.5" Lew Horton model with no compensator and an unfluted cylinder
Nice detective work! Putting away some extra $$ just in case that's coming!
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I dont know about the rest of you, but I noticed a new 460 in the background... Looks like their previous 3.5" Lew Horton model with no compensator and an unfluted cylinder
You may be right, with fiber opt.... When was the last time SW came out with a winner Rev. ? The R-8 was a hit....
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Yes the comp is removeable

open the cylinder from 9x19 to 9x23 and you end up with a very versatile revolver capable of shooting half a dozen different 9MM based cartridges.



As Pizza Bob noticed, this is similar to the previous 38 Super offering. So moon clips are already available for it.

The short cartridges make for very positive ejection and fast reloads.
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I'd rather they brought back the 10mm/.40 revolver, maybe that's just me...
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Yes the comp is removeable

open the cylinder from 9x19 to 9x23 and you end up with a very versatile revolver capable of shooting half a dozen different 9MM based cartridges.



As Pizza Bob noticed, this is similar to the previous 38 Super offering. So moon clips are already available for it.

The short cartridges make for very positive ejection and fast reloads.

Coltsaa,

Who made the spare cylinder for you? Looks like an incredibly versatile gun!

I'm thinking of getting a pro series done like that, but can't find a spare 627 cylinder.

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Some of you guys should get out more often and attend an ICORE or USPSA match...you'll find lots of folks very happy to see an 8 shot 9mm revolver.

Open your minds, gentlemen!
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Coltsaa,

Who made the spare cylinder for you? Looks like an incredibly versatile gun!

I'm thinking of getting a pro series done like that, but can't find a spare 627 cylinder.

Thanks,
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The unfluted cylinder is what came with the 627Pinto. The black cylinder is a stock S&W 357 Magnum cylinder that was re-chambered to 9x23 by Pinnacle.



I have four or five spare cylinders on hand for future projects, including two of the nickel ones. I always look for spare cylinders even when I do not have a project in mind.
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I have four or five spare cylinders on hand for future projects, including two of the nickel ones. I always look for spare cylinders even when I do not have a project in mind.

I see the logic of keeping a spare cylinder. I haven't been able to find one, but am keeping an eye out. I called S&W and they said it would be next year before any were available.
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why why why why not 10mm .
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This will likely be quite popular in ICORE - and USPSA too since in 2014 eight-shot revolvers will become legal in Revolver Division (Minor PF).

For ICORE, I currently use a M627 .38/.357 with .38 Short Colt ammo. The .38 Short Colt case is similar in dimensions to the 9mm - and moon clips are readily available. If I weren't already set up with this combo, I most certainly would be very interested in the new eight-shot 9mm revolver. (Am interested anyway, but can wait as the .38 Short Colt is GREAT and working just fine.)

For USPSA, I've always used a M625 .45ACP - a wonderful revolver! But will be fun to try the .38 shooting Minor PF in Revolver Div.

Some folks seem to think a firearm is no good if the word "Magnum" is not included in its name. And that's okay; whatever works.

But I've learned I have virtually no use for a bucking, ear splitting magnum. (The one exception being the .32 H&R Mag, which I REALLY like; and it isn't a "true magnum" when compared to most.)

I saw photos of a custom built 10-shot .32 H&R Mag on an N frame; built for ICORE. If it weren't so costly, would love to have one built! Now THAT would be fun for ICORE!

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I'd rather they brought back the 10mm/.40 revolver, maybe that's just me...
^This. I'd prefer that over 9mm. Although I can see some value in a 9mm revolver that's legal to use in various competitions.

I think the revolver platform would be great for 10mm/.40 however.
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Shouldn't this have been a "927"?
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Want!!! Bunch of haters, this will make a good comp gun. I love my 38 super 627.

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I'm sure they will sell some in certain competitive circles, but it isn't likely to be a big seller. So, in 25 years, someone will probably post detailed pictures of a 929 on this very forum. The poster will receive a dozen or so "likes" and numerous PMed offers to buy it. Guns that don't sell well, like the 547 and the Night Guard series, seem to become popular in these parts.
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First of all I had one of the first 38 supers with 6" barrel and loved it I have owned 4 of the 4" version still have some.I would and will buy one of the 9s when I get a chance..
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I'm no where near the expert that many people on this board are.

But I'd buy an 8 shot N-Frame 9mm in a minute.

Lock or no lock.
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Im no pro either but it sounds like a good back up gun for someone with a 9mm auto. I would like a shorter barrel option
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I think it's a great idea but needs a lot of tweaking. 9mm is plentiful and inexpensive so for plinking this would be such a great gun for revolver fans. However the thousand dollar price tag throws inexpensive out of the conversation. A k frame with moons would probably have cost a lot less.


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I'm amazed at how many of you don't get the idea that this was developed just for the revolver gun games. Take another look at the signature on the side and ask yourself what he does and how he got famous. It's a game gun and will probably be popular with those who do that.

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I'm amazed at how many of you don't get the idea that this was developed just for the revolver gun games. Take another look at the signature on the side and ask yourself what he does and how he got famous. It's a game gun and will probably be popular with those who do that.

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It sure is crazy! There are a lot of closed minds at this forum
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First of all I had one of the first 38 supers with 6" barrel and loved it I have owned 4 of the 4" version still have some.I would and will buy one of the 9s when I get a chance..
Pics please .
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what the world needs
That may be what you want, but not necessarily what the world needs or, more importantly, what shooters will spend their money on .

S&W is going to devote production resources to what sells. Large-frame revolvers are far down the list. A big part of what is currently selling in that category are competition guns . As pointed out earlier, this one will sell to USPSA competitors.

Our perception of there being a big demand for classics is skewed by reading these forums. IMO, the N-frame is stuck in an in-between state. The .44 mag long ago lost its crown. Shooters wanting powerful magnums are going to larger frames. Sub-.40 Calibers are going on smaller frames
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Here's mine. #SUP0096. 1st pic as received, second pic set-up for steel plates in open class.





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What Colt SAA said. Ream the cylinder to 9x23 and shoot .38 super and many more 9mm based cartridges.
9x19
9x21
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I'm amazed at how many of you don't get the idea that this was developed just for the revolver gun games. Take another look at the signature on the side and ask yourself what he does and how he got famous. It's a game gun and will probably be popular with those who do that.

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Agreed.

Remember too, however, the 8-shot M627 .357 is/was available in a 2.5" barrel, suitable for carry.

Will the new 9mm be available with short barrel? Who knows!
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saw a SW video and they were showing you new for 2014 -9 mm. PC Revolver. I e-mail SW and they sent me this <<........Reference number: LTK111770612267X Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us.
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No, I just saw the video now that you told me about it. I had never heard of it either, and also cannot find it on our website. I have no information on the gun other than what you've told me, and what I just saw in the video.
It is brand spanking new, so the release is pending, although the video we released doesn't communicate that.
If further assistance is required please reply accordingly.
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I'd buy one... and then find somebody to convert it to 9x25 Dillon with a stainless non-fluted cylinder!
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9mm cheap ammo + N frame Smith = Revolver from Heaven
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If the barrel is sized .355" it could be the Revolver from Heaven. If they put a .357" barrel on it, then it will be disappointing.
I'm rolling the dice, as I put my request in at my local dealer to get one.
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Didn't realize that long a barrel would be acceptable in competition.
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No, I just saw the video now that you told me about it. I had never heard of it either, and also cannot find it on our website. I have no information on the gun other than what you've told me, and what I just saw in the video.
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I give this person, Dere, credit for being honest and admitting what he doesn't know.

But I have to wonder what further assistance he could give you given he had never even heard of the 929.

I'm looking forward to ordering one. I'll wait until it's announced formally so my LGS can find the right SKU to order.

Also given I live in California, it will take S&W a while to get it onto the approved handguns list. Shouldn't be a problem, it will just take time and California has to extract some money from the manufacturer to test it.

I have to think a lot of these restrictive laws here in CA are really just excuses to tax someone. For example, you have to pass a handgun safety test to buy a handgun. And pay a fee of $25. But the test is so easy that anyone who has ever seen a gun can pass without studying. And if you do fail, the LGS can give you a brochure to read that takes 10 minutes -- and then give you the test again.

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I want it. I have no practical use for it but I want it.
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I can't wait to see how fast Jerry can fire/reload that bad boy!
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If the barrel is sized .355" it could be the Revolver from Heaven. If they put a .357" barrel on it, then it will be disappointing.
I'm rolling the dice, as I put my request in at my local dealer to get one.
I don't understand? 357 barrel can shoot 9 mm. What would a .355 barrel do for you ?
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I don't understand? 357 barrel can shoot 9 mm. What would a .355 barrel do for you ?
It's all about accuracy. 9mm (.355") bullets will not shoot accurately from a .357" bore...then there are also the chamber throat diameter to consider.

When S&W produced the 627-4 in 38 Super, they dropped the ball regarding bore and throat diameters...they were all over the place
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So i was going to get that gun -Just for target. If SW builds the gun with .355 it will be a bullseys gun. Good to know..
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Ask a Ruger .357/9mm convertible owner about accuracy. They do not have a good record in that regard due to the bore being a couple of thousandths oversized.

I suspect this gun would be a pussycat to shoot with the Team Glock load or other 147 grain target load.
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The unfluted cylinder is what came with the 627Pinto. The black cylinder is a stock S&W 357 Magnum cylinder that was re-chambered to 9x23 by Pinnacle.



I have four or five spare cylinders on hand for future projects, including two of the nickel ones. I always look for spare cylinders even when I do not have a project in mind.
I love those sights who makes them?
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When it comes in a 4" I will buy one
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