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Old 01-02-2014, 06:47 PM
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2014 Models via Julie Golob posting the release on her blog.

http://www.juliegolob.com/new-smith-...d-self-defense

They are on their website as well, hope not a dupe.

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It is, unfortunately, not a "dupe." Not one of these revolvers has anything to do with my interests in shooting. I suppose there will be a large number who will want to disagree, but I imagine a lesser number will actually lay down the bills for these competition oriented guns.

While I have no problem with all sorts of angles on the sport of shooting, my preference is for the bread and butter products related to self-defense, especially when the demand is so high and S&W cannot apparently meet demands for those products. J frames, K frames and other popular models have simply been unavailable all during 2013, and it is looking like that will be the case again in 2014.
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K frame 357 returns. Smart move. Now about that internal lock.....
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I know some have different feelings but i think there are 2 or 3 new models that look real sweet. I have been emailing them for years to bring us their bread and butter 686 in a PC worked over carry package and they did it in the PC 686.
I will be ordering one tomorrow.
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It is, unfortunately, not a "dupe." Not one of these revolvers has anything to do with my interests in shooting. I suppose there will be a large number who will want to disagree, but I imagine a lesser number will actually lay down the bills for these competition oriented guns.

While I have no problem with all sorts of angles on the sport of shooting, my preference is for the bread and butter products related to self-defense, especially when the demand is so high and S&W cannot apparently meet demands for those products. J frames, K frames and other popular models have simply been unavailable all during 2013, and it is looking like that will be the case again in 2014.
I can understand where you're coming from, but these all look like Performance Center guns, so I don't think they are directed towards the same market or coming from the same assembly line. The 686 interests me... too bad it is a 2 1/2" instead of a 3" barrel.

What I would love to see the the PC start making semi-custom guns like they did in the 30s with the Registered Magnums. You could select the options you want and have the PC build it for you. Select barrel length, sights, stocks, moon clips, trigger type, etc... They wouldn't be RMs, and it would be a mistake to call them that. There is no way they could recreate the fit and finish of the old time craftsmen, and purists would be annoyed at trying reissue RMs.
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K frame 357 returns. Smart move. Now about that internal lock.....
I must have missed that in the press release. A K frame in .357 Magnum?
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Go straight to Julie Golob's web site and look toward the bottom and you will see a little box under "recent posts" that you click on to see the press release from S&W.

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If everyone interested can hunt down one we should be able to list them pretty quick.

M66 .357 in the pro series

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5 Shot L frame .44 Magnum

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Two piece barrels? I thought they gave up on those.

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Go straight to Julie Golob's web site and look toward the bottom and you will see a little box under "recent posts" that you click on to see the press release from S&W.

World Shooting Champion Sharing Shooting Sports Info, Insight and Tips | Julie Golob
Nothing there on Model 66
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7 Shot, no comp, 5" 9mm

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Product: Model 460XVR?

Bam, it's on order.
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I don't see any new classics yet so I will continue to hope for a 4", tapered barrel, target sighted .45 ACP.
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An L frame .44 Combat Magnum? I think I might just buy a new Smith...

Link to new-for-2014 S&W handgun line up:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...51_757677_-1_Y

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None of those new revolvers made my trigger finger itch except for the Model 66 i gotta buy one of those.

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Count me in for a model 66. Before or after my 500 I haven't decided yet.
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Product: Model 460XVR?

Bam, it's on order.
Did you get a price on this gun ? List is $1600 I saw two 9 mm rev.986 and M929 “Jerry Miculek Signature Model.

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I like the 686 and if the 66 really is coming back that would be sweet too. It would be even sweeter if they offered a 2.5" as well. I like the 9mm revolvers also. The 460 looks awesome also. I need to hit the lottery.
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That model 69 does look sweet.
I wonder if all our grousing for a new 696 had any effect?

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M629 Unfluted with pic rails on top and in front of ejector a la TRR8. I wonder how much? I may not be able to lay off this one.
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I'm digging the 686 and the 66. I hope they stick around long enough for me to get the coins saved up.
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Did you get a price on this gun ? List is $1600 I saw two 9 mm rev.986 and M929 “Jerry Miculek Signature Model.
Not the actual retail price but I called my dealer and told them to place an order for 1 for me. Their normal pricing is a healthy bit under MSRP on everything so I'm not too worried about that silly number up on the top of the page.
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Not the actual retail price but I called my dealer and told them to place an order for 1 for me. Their normal pricing is a healthy bit under MSRP on everything so I'm not too worried about that silly number up on the top of the page.
I can't find the spec. on the two 9 mm rev. I was told that a .355 would be a better gun then a 357-9 mm. When i go tomorrow i will find out. You ordered the 460 ? NICE !!
I always wanted a 460 but the price of that ammo is nuts. I'm sure you reload. After what happen to me with my 357 rev. [blow up in my hand] not for me ....
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I can't find the spec. on the two 9 mm rev. I was told that a .355 would be a better gun then a 357-9 mm. When i go tomorrow i will find out. You ordered the 460 ? NICE !!
I always wanted a 460 but the price of that ammo is nuts. I'm sure you reload. After what happen to me with my 357 rev. [blow up in my hand] not for me ....
I've already got the 10.5" PC and was planning on getting the 5" but this will work out even better along side the longer one. Shooting the 200gr Hornady FTX is pretty reasonable on both the wallet and the wrist.

I'm crossing my fingers that S&W decides to bring out a similar PC shorty in .500 next year.
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Two piece barrels? I thought they gave up on those.
That's a deal breaker for me.
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I give the factory credit for listening to their customers and bringing out new products.

Two pluses - the 66 and 69 in 4.25" barrels, so our Canadian friends can enjoy them, and the relocation of "Smith & Wesson" to the left side of the barrel. Seeing that on the right side bugs me, for no explainable reason. A possible minus - forcing cone issues on both the above; perhaps the two-piece barrel addressed this.
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That model 69 does look sweet.
I wonder if all our grousing for a new 696 had any effect?

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If so, the didn't listen well enough. I like the Model 69 concept, but a 3"BBL would have been more to my liking.
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I give the factory credit for listening to their customers and bringing out new products.

Two pluses - the 66 and 69 in 4.25" barrels, so our Canadian friends can enjoy them, and the relocation of "Smith & Wesson" to the left side of the barrel. Seeing that on the right side bugs me, for no explainable reason. A possible minus - forcing cone issues on both the above; perhaps the two-piece barrel addressed this.
Agree with the forcing cone issue on the 69. That's the first thing I thought when I saw .44 Magnum L-frame. The primary reason I want one is that I don't see that gun being manufactured for very long....and it's darn neat to see ".44 Combat Magnum" stamped on the side of a barrel
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Too bad they're not offering the M66 with 3" barrel.


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I'm thinking a Model 69 is going to follow me home!
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I will give them credit for listening to their customers and also hope they would see fit to offer the 66, 69, 686 and 986's with a 3" barrel. (likewise with their existing 64 and 67).

I recently bought a 3" 66-3 and, WOW, that's THE GUN for me. As a result I'll soon be selling some off that won't get shot anymore. IMHO, the balance and weight is just so much better.
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Sorry, but I cannot trust the IL. Otherwise I would try to get money to buy a new 66 or L frame 44...
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If that bothers you; just remove it and plug it! Problem solved.
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If that bothers you; just remove it and plug it! Problem solved.
I have done that already, three times. Now I would like some better aesthetics that make my eyes happy.
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Nothing of interest to me. Make me a 9mm revolver like my old 3" 547 and I'll be in line to buy. But a 9mm with a 6 1/2" barrel? Why?
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I think I might get the new PC 686 if it can be had for less than MSRP. I would sell a few thing for that. There was one troubling thing that I read somewhere that the Performance Center guns are coming off the production line, sort of like the pro series, and that had started in 2013. I would want to know more about that. Are they doing less hand fitting?

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I think I might get the new PC 686 if it can be had for less than MSRP. I would sell a few thing for that. There was one troubling thing that I read somewhere that the Performance Center guns are coming off the production line, sort of like the pro series, and that had started in 2013. I would want to know more about that. Are they doing less hand fitting?

That is a real nice gun. I was on the comp. all day looking for that and the 9 mm rev. came across this- New Ruger GP100 Match Champion 4" Stainless. Found one in stock. I bought it.By the time the S&W new guns hit the shelves i will have the money.
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That is a real nice gun. I was on the comp. all day looking for that and the 9 mm rev. came across this- New Ruger GP100 Match Champion 4" Stainless. Found one in stock. I bought it.By the time the S&W new guns hit the shelves i will have the money.
Anyone have any thoughts on when we might start seeing these new models roll in?
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Oh, well. No .32 K frame. Might just have to start another project.

But I'm "in line" at the LGS for a Model 69. Thinking that one might be scarce like .22 ammo for a while! Seems lots of folk here are on that L frame bandwagon. I told my dealer that if he gets multiples we'll be having a mass inspection before purchase.

Probably will be on the lookout for a 929 as well. Ought to be a hoot on steel.
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I think I want the 929 with the 986 barrel (send back). Would they match up okay?
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I may have to own the PC 686.
Like the model 66 too.
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The 66 looks like they just pulled the 66-7 CNC software off archive. It also had the 2-piece barrel. So long as they're going 2-piece, why not switch barrel?

The 69 is a step in the right direction, but Im still holding out hope for a 6-shot 10mm on the L-frame. Then Bill Jordan's original vision of the .41 magnum would be fulfilled.
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An L frame .44 Combat Magnum? I think I might just buy a new Smith...

Link to new-for-2014 S&W handgun line up:
New Firearms - Smith & Wesson
Now, that one has me going....
Like I need another 44 of any kind, but what the heck.
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S&W seems to be calming down on the plastics I guess the demand is letting up too. There smart marketing people. There offering more revolvers now. I'm tore between the "K" frames and the "N" frames for now. But I'd like to get something new that's different too.

Ruger seems to change its line up and discontinuing more and more. They cater to the cowboy shooting more I guess. They did discontinue there long barrel vaquero. The redhawk is gone they only offer the super redhawk. I should sending them an email thanking them for discontinuing everything I wanted to buy and sending me to the Smith & Wesson bus to ride on for a while. I don't think I'll be leaving s&w anytime soon.
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According to reports on the Ruger oriented forums the CEO has said that the Redhawk is being moved to the new plant in the South. Many of us expect it to be reegnineered to use the spike grip and split the single action spring into two like the Super Redhawk design.
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I wasn't very interested until that Model 69 popped up. That made my heart skip a beat. Time to go to my LGS.
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Are they making P n R's again? Now that would be earth-shattering!
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I want the model 69 5 shot 44 magnum L frame. If I am right its basically its just the model 696 made around the 44 magnum instead of 44 special. I really really hope they make a 3" barrel version.






I also want a new model 66

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