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Ergo J frame Delta grip.
I know the Shot Show was last month so this may be a bit premature. However, I'm curious; has anyone had a chance to shoot a J frame with Ergo Grips new 'Delta' grip? If so what's your take?
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Here's a gun writer's take on the grips which he handled (but did not shoot) at SHOT.
New Product spotlight: ERGO Grips Delta revolver grip | Gun Nuts Media
Looks interesting and I would like to hear how it shoots also.
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My god that's ugly! I just couldn't bring myself to put that on my J Frame. I don't care how good it feels my hand. But that's just me. To each his own.
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For years I have considered making a wood set of stocks for a J-Frame very much like those, I will have to try them. Ugly, very! But it's a very natural grip if your middle finger knuckle hits the back of the trigger guard and gets the beans beat out of it!
** As a matter of fact I was going to order one just now, $19.95 on their web-store, but they want a minimum of $12.38 shipping!!!!!! Forget it.
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It looks promising b/c it fills in the backstrap w/o adding a lot of bulk to the gun. Anyone know what material is used? It looks like rubber.
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$12.00 for shipping? Damn!
I'm sure they are the same rubber as the AR15 grips (which I have on mine) that are quite nice.
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Looks like we'll have to see what the gun media thinks after a T&E.
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Thats bought the ugliest grip I've ever saw. None will ever reside here.
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From the article: "My initial impressions are pretty good. Yes, it’s ugly. But I don’t carry a j-frame to impress people with how pretty my gun is, I carry it to shoot smelly badguys in the face in defense of my life."
Ha, ha. "smelly bad guys".
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It looks all wrong, but I am intrigued and I'd like to try it.
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I don't care for the looks, but I bought my j frames to shoot so I might give one a try. I don't need the bad guy to being all ooh and ahh over how nice my revolver looks.
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I concur with the statements made here. Probably very functional & ugly.
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Ugly Grip!
May be but, picture a set crafted by one of the stock makers on this forum and made from one of the exotic woods they have access to, you may be surprised very pleasantly, never say never!
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I ordered on a few days ago. Hopefully it will ship soon and I can give a report.
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I handled it last month. I hated the way it felt. It alters the angles at which you hold he firearm. If firing from the hip or a retention position it felt all wrong.
However they are sending me a sample and I will give it a fair shake.
It is going to be one of those things that if you start with it on your first gun it will feel OK, but if you are changing to it after 10 or 20 or 30 years you won't like it.
It is made from the same material as the AR grip.
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Looks like it should be on one of the guns in the Halo video game series.
I'm thinking it will put my hand too high on the grip frame.
My meaty paws get hammer bite from a high grip on a J frame.
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I believe it was Walter Roper (or perhaps it was Steve Herrett) who observed that if you take your empty hand and clasp it as if grasping a gun, the shape of the empty space inside your hand resembles an ice cream cone, similar to the shape of this grip- narrow at the bottom and wider at the top.
The problem with mimicking this when it comes to handgun grips, however, is that while such a shape seems, on the surface, to be a natural choice, a grip shaped like this will tend to swim upwards (raising the bore axis) and out of the hand as pressure is applied to due the hand firmly grasping the grip and/or recoil. This might not be quite as apparent with a sticky rubber grip but a smooth hard grip shaped like this Ergo grip would be a nightmare trying to keep ahold.
There's a reason most grips are shaped larger at the bottom than at the top, however counterintuitive it may look (keeping in mind the ice cream cone). With such a grip recoil or grasping pressure forces the grip down in the hand, keeping the hand high on the gun and lowering the bore axis, which is far more preferable.
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They would look great on a pink Taurus
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those grips are ugly everyone says..hmm
thats what we said about the ar 15. beauty is what beauty does.
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I received my grips Monday and have used them on two occasions to the range. My 442 does point quicker without having to tweek the sight picture. The grip reduces the perceived recoil a bit. The 442 feels very solid in the hand. Since it is narrower than the Pachmayr I usually have on the 442 it conceals in a breast pocket and Simply Rugger very well. And, as a bonus, so far I shoot a tad more accurately. I told the manufacturer that I will order two more for my LCR's, .22 and .357, I'm so pleased.
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This delta grip is magic !
Mod.60-9 357 s/w j frame .158gr. 357 fed.ammo does not hurt hand! All who tried my rev. Were amazed. A ruger 100 my cousin brought was much less controlable. I stumbled into this site by accident,and registered only to share this super find.
Hope ya'll can over look it's precieved lack of beauty.
It looks better to me every time I shoot with it.
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Well, I've had it for a month or so and put a couple of hundred rounds or so through a Model 442 wearing them.
There are worse grips. I have a box full of them. (I've been shooting J-Frames since 1991. I have nearly as many J-frame holsters.) I have slightly larger than average hands. I wear large size gloves. These grips, for me, should either expose the backstrap so that I can get up high in the backstrap like a Centennial or Bodyguard was meant to be gripped, or come up higher on the frame with the covered backstrap so that, once again, you can get up as high as possible to control recoil. This of course, requires two versions of the grip--one for Centennials & Bodyguards, and one for model 36 pattern guns.
But, I understand that from a business perspective that one size probably has to fit all for the price.
Is it worth it? My opinion is yes, if you are shooting the 15 ounce alloy frame guns. It makes them quite comfortable for a couple hundred rounds at the range. I'll be keeping mine on my 442. For steel frame guns I would stick with the boot style grips. The extra five to nine ounces makes all the difference in shootability.
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It looks....not so good.....but if it shoots good that's what it is all about. I never liked Captain Kirks faser but it worked so good.
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So, beyond the comfort and control issue, how fast is your purchase in quick acquisition for presentation from the holster? Does it take any extra time to get hold of the gun for deployment?
That is where the rubber meets the road for me. As you all know, a J Frames sole intent and purpose in life is as a carry gun, so does this grip negate or lessen its efficiency in this?
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Looks to me like a reincarnation of Fuzzy Ferrant's concept.I will try them. I agree that they would look better in exotic wood but, they may not work as well as "goodyears" for recoil control.Meanwhile,as the flea said when he bit the elephant in the "nether region", "everyone to his own taste". Nick
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So, beyond the comfort and control issue, how fast is your purchase in quick acquisition for presentation from the holster? Does it take any extra time to get hold of the gun for deployment?
That is where the rubber meets the road for me. As you all know, a J Frames sole intent and purpose in life is as a carry gun, so does this grip negate or lessen its efficiency in this?
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I can't tell much difference in speed. My hand contorts in a variety of ways. It's all in the manner in which you train yourself. These days I rarely carry a J-Frame. When I do it's on an ankle or in a pocket. As with any rubber grips, the more you use them the smoother and less tacky they become. Tacky is the issue for me. It's both a blessing and a curse. A blessing in that the gun can be shot from a variety of half-*** grips in a hurry. A curse in that it can stick to the inside of a pocket and slow down the draw. Use, sweat, lubes and solvents all remove the excessive tacky from rubber holsters in a short time.
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Anyone else besides manufacturer selling these?
I want to try these but I just can't pay the ridiculous shipping cost that the manufacturers wants. Unless they are being hand carried to my house by a playboy bunny, I'll buy them elsewhere!
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Still looking for Ergo grips...
I'm still looking for these grips from someone with reasonable shipping charges. Anyone seen them anywhere?
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I handled a prototype last year at the NRA show and I liked the way it felt on the blue gun. I was trying to get a set to do a T&E, but sort of dropped the ball on that. I'll be back later this week and will be talking to the rep again.
I have to tell you that they felt really comfortable, but of course I wasn't firing them. I have a 642 and shooting it is not at all pleasant and I've tried a number of grips over the years.
If this is as comfortable shooting as it is just holding on a blue gun, they should sell a lot of them.
The shipping costs are pretty high considering how much the grips cost. I wonder if someone did a group buy they would bundle the shipping costs?
I'm not suggesting a group buy, but I will see what the rep has to say when I talk to him.
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The more I use these grips, the more I like them. They cushion recoil pretty well on an Airweight, and are very comfortable and controllable. I'm going to spend some more time with them at the range alongside my Airweights with Altamont grips http://www.altamontco.com/experiment...s/SJR-FO07.jpg and evaluate them. But, so far, these are a winner once you get past the unorthodox shape.
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Hi. New to the forums but certainly not new to Smith & Wessons. I was about to order a set of these a few minutes ago, but like a previous poster, the shipping cost turned me off. IMHO, good old USPS shipping for 3 or 4 bucks would be fine. I hate to spend what amounts to about 2/3 the cost of the grips just to get them to me. I'm sure eventually somebody else will offer these for sale. I hope so anyway.
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Brownells has them for less than the Ergo Grip site. Price is $16.00, plus shipping.
The Ergo Grip people told me that Brownells, Midway, and soon Optics Planet will be stocking them. I think they keep the price high so as not to undercut their retail partners.
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Hi. New to the forums but certainly not new to Smith & Wessons. I was about to order a set of these a few minutes ago, but like a previous poster, the shipping cost turned me off. IMHO, good old USPS shipping for 3 or 4 bucks would be fine. I hate to spend what amounts to about 2/3 the cost of the grips just to get them to me. I'm sure eventually somebody else will offer these for sale. I hope so anyway.
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I'm still looking for these grips from someone with reasonable shipping charges. Anyone seen them anywhere?
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I called Ergo to order mine. They have been fixing a shipping error on their website. They said it should be changed soon, but that if you call they can ship it US Postal for around $6.
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They have fixed the shipping issue. I ordered a set middle of the week and paid the high shipping costs. Two days later I received an email crediting my account for $8.02. The set arrived today by USPS Priority Mail. Not happy with the look but they are very comfortable in the hand. Will be shooting with them tomorrow on my 640-1.
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I tried the Ergo grips. I put 100 rounds of mixed ammo through my 640-1 this morning with good results. The grips are ugly as a horned toad but very comfortable in my small hands. The draw presentation is a little different because of the added material under the triggerguard but it was really not an issue and the sights were dead on every time I drew. Accuracy was excellent. Perceived recoil was less with my 158 grain home rolled swc's and the Speer Gold Dot SB's I normally carry. My real surprise came when shooting Speer 158 grain .357's. I have tried shooting magnums in this gun on two occasions with two different types of grips . Each time I pulled the trigger once and said, "no more"! I thought I had broken my thumb and the cylinder latch took a divot out of that digit. I fired 10 magnum rounds though the gun today. The recoil was noticeable but not painful and recovery for a second shot was easy. I don't know that I'll carry magnums but now I know I can. I believe the Ergo Grips at least for me are a keeper.
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I posted my experience in a similar, but different thread. I found my 642 much more comfortable to shoot with the Delta Grips. Because of that, my accuracy at 21 feet increased significantly, particularly my grouping.
Since I pocket carry my 6423 and it's a sort of last ditch self defense gun, I don't care much how it looks.
I asked at one point and one of the reps said that they do have some plans to make them in different colors. I don't now if that will help, but it probably won't hurt.
I have a friend who has a 442 who is an infrequent shooter. He doesn't like the recoil of the 442 and I want him to try shooting my 642 to see how much better he does with it.
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I tried the Ergo grips. I put 100 rounds of mixed ammo through my 640-1 this morning with good results. The grips are ugly as a horned toad but very comfortable in my small hands. The draw presentation is a little different because of the added material under the triggerguard but it was really not an issue and the sights were dead on every time I drew. Accuracy was excellent. Perceived recoil was less with my 158 grain home rolled swc's and the Speer Gold Dot SB's I normally carry. My real surprise came when shooting Speer 158 grain .357's. I have tried shooting magnums in this gun on two occasions with two different types of grips . Each time I pulled the trigger once and said, "no more"! I thought I had broken my thumb and the cylinder latch took a divot out of that digit. I fired 10 magnum rounds though the gun today. The recoil was noticeable but not painful and recovery for a second shot was easy. I don't know that I'll carry magnums but now I know I can. I believe the Ergo Grips at least for me are a keeper.
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I want to try a set but I just can't do it. I keep seeing Mr Smith and Mr Wesson look down on me shaking there heads.
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I've got a set on my Model 36. I hate the way they look, still not used to their feel, but they work. They make a J frame much easier to handle while shooting.
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I love them!
I love these grips! Since I switched from the Desantis Clip Grip, I use them with the Clip Draw. I don't like the Clip Draw as much, but these grip are worth the trade off. Once they make/sell them in a non-overmolded (smooth) finish, I will definitely buy those.
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A forum member said on a different thread that it looks like a gun Batman would have. Ugly but very functional.
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My shooting the 442 with the Ergo grip has improved exponentially. I no longer shoot low at seven o'clock. I'm centered in and around the black at 25 feet. It's made me a believer. Will get sets for my .357 and .22 LCR's.
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A friend sent me a pair to try on my customized 36-1 - I have to say, they point amazingly well. As in, look at a spot, close your eyes, point at it, open your eyes, and the gold bead is right where it should be - on the spot, centered in the rear sight.
They do the same for my wife, as well, and she has a much smaller hand than I do. I'm looking forward to heading to the range with them to see how they handle recoil/follow-up shots.
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I did it. Went an bought some. Ugly? Yes. But they do work as advertised on a 638. Keeps the BUG small & flat. Shot it today until my hand was sore. They'll be staying on.
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I'm shocked to see I never reported back: these things handle recoil very well. They're staying on the gun - I've shot a mess of +Ps through the 36-1, and I find the gun to be more controllable than ever with the ErgoGrips installed, and the thing just points so fast . . .
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Yes they do. They're funky & it took me a few cylinders to master it, but they are very controllable. A lot lighter than Pach's.
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My god that's ugly! I just couldn't bring myself to put that on my J Frame. I don't care how good it feels my hand. But that's just me. To each his own.
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Ugly is right! I am more of a traditional kind of guy. I would not even do that to a Taurus! Bob
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11-28-2014, 09:19 PM
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Bananaman, you are right....probably not fit for a Taurus. But I have to say they do work (yea, feel really weird) but they do work. Quite compact and lightweight too. For a dyed in the wool Glockster they will feel quite natural. Like you, I like the traditional feel and look of lumber, but I had to give way to functionality since this J is my back up on duty.
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11-28-2014, 11:25 PM
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I didn't know about these grips until I stumbled onto this thread. These are the most atrociously butt-ugly grips I have ever, in all my born days, laid eyes upon. However, and if they make shooting a J-frame easier and more accurately, and as I always carry my 642 concealed, I am seriously trying to care less what they look like. In fact I may order a pair but I won't tell any of my shooting buddies. It'll be just our little secret.
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11-29-2014, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Erich
I'm shocked to see I never reported back: these things handle recoil very well. They're staying on the gun - I've shot a mess of +Ps through the 36-1, and I find the gun to be more controllable than ever with the ErgoGrips installed, and the thing just points so fast . . .
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I'll have to give these a try. I've been away from J frames for a while as I caught SIG fever about a year ago. They sure are ugly!
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11-29-2014, 12:24 PM
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Shucks, I may just go pull the 36-1 out of the safe . . .
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