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08-24-2014, 06:00 AM
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Original combat grips 617?
Hello everybody,
Can somebody tell me if the grips in the picture are the original combat grips of the 617 no dash? I have recently bought a 617 no dash with target grips, but the gun on the picture is now for sale for a only 300 euros (is $400,-) here in The Netherlands. If the grips are indeed the original combat grips, I might consider buying this gun (also a 617 no dash) just for that.
Thanks for your replies.
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08-24-2014, 06:53 AM
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Those are the original style Combats...and $400 is a major steal even without them. It's worth double that price as shown.
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08-24-2014, 07:25 AM
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Buy first ask questions later!
I used to work for KPN and have spoken to co-workers about handgun ownership in The Netherlands and they said it is pretty much impossible. If you don't mind me asking, what was the process?
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08-24-2014, 07:34 AM
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They sure look like the original. At least the original style.
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If you don't mind me asking, what was the process?
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yes, I'm curious about that too
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08-24-2014, 07:48 AM
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You can have these guns in The Netherlands for 'sport shooting', wich means target shooting. You need a license, that you can only get if you are an active member of a shooting club. You can have these guns at home, but it's not allowed to carry them for other reason then going to the shooting range.
The funny thing is that older guns here are far more cheaper then in the US, while brand new ones are far more expensive. For example, a new 617 costs at least $ 1300,-. 'No dash' doesn't mean anything here, it's just an old gun.
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08-24-2014, 09:08 AM
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Thanks for the interesting information. In many other countries used items are just old junk and not worth as much as new stuff - I seem to recall the Japanese had/have the same attitude about used motorcycles.
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08-24-2014, 02:51 PM
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You can have these guns in The Netherlands for 'sport shooting', wich means target shooting. You need a license, that you can only get if you are an active member of a shooting club. You can have these guns at home, but it's not allowed to carry them for other reason then going to the shooting range.
The funny thing is that older guns here are far more cheaper then in the US, while brand new ones are far more expensive. For example, a new 617 costs at least $ 1300,-. 'No dash' doesn't mean anything here, it's just an old gun.
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Is the process long and expensive to acquire a license?
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08-24-2014, 03:43 PM
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The license is not expensive, like 15 bucks or so. You have to renew it every year. But before you can get a license, you need to be a member of a shooting club for at least one year. That membership costs $ 150-200,- per year.
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08-24-2014, 03:59 PM
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The license is not expensive, like 15 bucks or so. You have to renew it every year. But before you can get a license, you need to be a member of a shooting club for at least one year. That membership costs $ 150-200,- per year.
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Is their background checks or waiting periods? I'm sorry to ask all these question but I'm trying to compare them to the laws in my state.
Thanks, James
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08-24-2014, 06:15 PM
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No problem. You start as a prospect member for a certain period, then you become a full member of a shooting club ( same like a certain motorclub :-) ). There is a serious background check. Not only for criminal records, but also for mental health. That's because in 2011 a guy killed 6 people and wounded 17 with his legally owned M&P 15-22. He killed himself with a Taurus. It was known that he was suicidal, nevertheless he got his license.
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No problem. You start as a prospect member for a certain period, then you become a full member of a shooting club ( same like a certain motorclub :-) ). There is a serious background check. Not only for criminal records, but also for mental health. That's because in 2011 a guy killed 6 people and wounded 17 with his legally owned M&P 15-22. He killed himself with a Taurus. It was known that he was suicidal, nevertheless he got his license.
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How does the mental health part work? Does the doctor only ask questions or make you do some tests? Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions
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08-24-2014, 09:50 PM
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Wood is apparently correct on the nodash:
Model 617: K-22 Masterpiece Stainless Full-lug Caliber: .22 Long Rifle. Double-action revolver built on the square butt stainless K target frame with three screws. A stainless steel version very similar to the Model 17 full-lug. 6-shot fluted cylinder with a nominal length of 1.62”; 4”, 6” or 8-3/8” full-lug ribbed barrel, straight 10-groove serrated backstrap and forestrap, .312” smooth combat or .400” serrated trigger, smooth combat wood grips with S&W medallions, .375” semi-target or .500” target hammer, pinned Patridge front sight with micrometer click adjustable rear sight. 4” and 6” variations are also found without the full-lug in limited production in 1991 as a special for Ashland Shooting Supplies.
Supica, Jim; Nahas, Richard (2006-12-20). Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson 3rd (Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson) (pp. 237-238). F+W Media, Inc.. Kindle Edition.
Original Hogues(?) on 617-2P 6-inch barrel, stainless steel cylinder.
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4” and 6” variations are also found without the full-lug in limited production in 1991 as a special for Ashland Shooting Supplies.
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This is what the 4" no-lug looks like. Only 200 made (and it did have the Combat Stocks):
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08-25-2014, 01:16 PM
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SRV1: you have to fill in al long list of questions, and find 2 people who are willing to vouch for you. The police can ask you to present a statement of your doctor, that you are capable handling a fire arm.
5Wire: thanks, I have to get that Catalog too.
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08-25-2014, 05:49 PM
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Jaws all i can say is go for it!! Is niet duur!
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