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11-03-2014, 11:03 PM
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How Do You Like The PC 627
After hearing some issues with the timing on the 7 shot PC Model 686, I am shifting my attention to the PC 627. Anyone having any issues with the 8 shot PC Model 627?
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11-03-2014, 11:43 PM
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I'm thrilled with my PC 627-5. It has become the hot ticket for competition shooters who prefer revolvers. It has been a favorite of ICORE competitors for quite some time, and now with the USPSA rules changes, it has become difficult to find one for sale. The early production problems of the 929 have pushed more competition shooters to look for a PC 627, rather than waste time and money on the 929. It is also a favorite of steel challenge revolver shooters. Remember, competitive shooters push their guns a lot harder than the average gun owner, so when a gun finds favor among the competition crowd, it speaks volumes.
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11-03-2014, 11:47 PM
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What he said. But if you're considering the 686 the frame size should play into your decision too. The size difference is not negligible. Don't be scared by bad reports - my 686+ didn't carry up on one cylinder, sent it back, got it back right as rain. They have a lifetime warranty and they will do right.
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11-04-2014, 12:13 AM
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I have been shooting the 8 shot model 27/327/627 offerings from the Performance Center for 18 years now.
The 627 in the upper left corner of this photo is the 27th 8 shot revolver from the PC. I still shoot it today, well two Sundays ago .
Yes, obviously I love the 27/327/627 family of 8 shot revolvers. I have run many 10s of thousands of rounds of 357 Magnum ammunition through them in the close to two decades since they were introduced. My friends and co-workers have put many thousands of additional rounds through them over the years.
These are among the most accurate 357 magnums S&W has ever produced. The advances in metallurgy and machining that make these 8 shot revolvers possible is just fantastic.
BTW, no matter what revolver you look at there will be problems with some. S&W produced just under 900,000 firearms in 2011 (most recent statistics). No company can be 100% perfect 100% of the time no matter how much it costs. This is why they come with a warranty
Remember the guy who gets the perfect one is not going to visit every forum he can to yell about how great the piece is. The guy who gets a lemon wants the world to know he got a lemon.
If you like the 686, do not give up on it because of a few internet complaints.
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11-04-2014, 12:35 AM
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If you like the 686, do not give up on it because of a few internet complaints.
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Exactly. And if you plan on using it for concealed carry, the 8 rounders are a bit too bulky for most.
Order one, inspect the timing, if it is off don't accept it. Chances are slim you will have a problem. It is a fraction of a percent that are off.
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11-05-2014, 05:43 PM
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I just found another LGS who just received a new PC 627. They have not unboxed it yet. their price is $949.99 + tax.
I told them to put my name on it and keep it in the box until I get there tomorrow. Sounds like a reasonable price, based on what I see on other sites - not too many available online, even less locally. Plus, I get to inspect it before I hand over the credit card.
Anything I should be careful about before I do the deal? I will check for cosmetics, canted barrel, and timing.
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11-05-2014, 09:22 PM
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My 627 PC has been flawless in construction and function.
Its really the epitome of the perfect revolver IMHO.
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11-05-2014, 09:57 PM
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My 627 PC has been flawless in construction and function.
Its really the epitome of the perfect revolver IMHO.
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Beautiful gun. How long have you had it? How many rounds down range? Any issues with the IL?
Are those Hogue grips?
The one I am going to see tomorrow is the PC sub-nose.
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11-05-2014, 10:54 PM
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Beautiful gun. How long have you had it? How many rounds down range? Any issues with the IL?
Are those Hogue grips?
The one I am going to see tomorrow is the PC sub-nose.
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Love my 627 snubby but the factory grips had to be replaced with a nice pair of Ahrends.
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11-05-2014, 11:32 PM
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Yes, those stock grips are too small for my hands.
I see S&W has some nice wood round to square butt conversions in their store for the 627, around $70. Might order those if I close the deal on the new gun tomorrow.
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11-06-2014, 12:35 AM
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Beautiful gun. How long have you had it? How many rounds down range? Any issues with the IL?
Are those Hogue grips?
The one I am going to see tomorrow is the PC sub-nose.
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Owned for a year and a half.
Around 500 rounds down range.
No lock issues but it bothers me its there.......
Hogue grips.
My short magnum is a model 60 pro.
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11-06-2014, 12:51 AM
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I love mine. It's everything you could want in a .36 caliber revolver.
I actually two-toned mine, and rather like the effect. Flats are shiney, rounds are the dull-sandblasted finish it came with. There are very few of these down here.
A shot of my 627 with Phil Roettinger's NRM. The old and the new together.
Remember that to check the pre-timing on the action, you need cases or snap-caps in the cylinder. The little cylinder-pin doo-hickeys are not present on this revolver and without them the cylinder may seem to not pre-time correctly if it's empty. Put some empty cases or snap-caps in and it should be fine. Get one, you'll love it.
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11-06-2014, 08:15 AM
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I've had a 5" 627PC for a decade or more, and it's been a great gun, not a single issue or problem. I was recently considering a 929, but decided against it and will use my old reliable 627 for those applications.
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11-07-2014, 12:37 AM
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Have 627 PC and 327 PC snubbies. Love to shoot the 627. It' the most accurate snubby I've ever shot. Unfortunately the 627 is too heavy for me to reasonably carry. On the other hand, I find the 327 just a little large but just the right weight for carry. It just doesn't shoot quite as well, but I really feel good carrying it.
The factor that makes me hesitant to carry either one is the cost to replace them. There are lots of things that can happen to a carry gun and I really don't want to spend $1000 for a new replacement. I have several less classy carry guns that have as much or more firepower and they can be replaced for 1/3 or 1/2 the cost of these PCs.
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11-07-2014, 12:59 AM
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As my forum name implies, I love the M625 .45 ACP.
But about a year and a half ago, I bought a M627 PC .357 Mag from a friend. He shot it in competition for a few years (untold number of .38 Specials through it.)
It had already had a trigger job. I added JM grips (just like on my M625.)
I've fired probably at least 3000 rounds (of .38 Short Colt) through it.
Zero problems. The M627 PC is a GREAT revolver!
Still love my M625, but it gets a bit less use now.
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11-08-2014, 01:34 PM
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627 PC, Best 357 IMHO
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11-08-2014, 04:56 PM
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As stated previously, an LGS had a 627PC in-stock this past Thursday. Went down to buy it only to find some very noticeable scuff marks in the bead-blast finish when we opened the box. For over a $1,000 out the door, it would have had to been perfect, so I passed.
He also had an unboxed 686PC which I asked him to bring out. Beautiful gun but it had a canted barrel, so I went 0 for 2 and came home empty-handed. However, I really liked the feel of the 686 PC.
Whichever one (686PC or 627PC) I can find first, with no defects, will get my money.
For those of you who have both the PC versions of the 686 & 627, which one do you like best?
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My 627 38 super is awesome. I have had no issues with mine. I also own a 686+ that I have never had an issue with. Both guns are shot in competition with several hundred rounds a month plus practice. For that matter all my S&W revolvers run flawless.
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Should you ever come to visit here, I will take you to the Matilda Hotel Bar. The owner is a member of our group here and has a 627 himself and is super-rich. The Bulleit Bourbon is his Hotel Bar's "house" bourbon. When the S&W talk really gets going, the owner will often sign the tab himself. We've had some outrageous hangovers after meetings at times.
The place is pricey, you'd need to be a Colt Forum guy to stay there, as Sip says. But if the owner's paying to sit around and talk S&W, we can all live with that.
Hotel Matilda | Boutique Hotel, Spa and Restaurant in San Miguel de Allende
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12-20-2014, 11:49 PM
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Just located another nearby LGS who has a new 627PC (2.6" barrel) in-stock. Hoping to sneak out of the house tomorrow (without my wife noticing) and go take a look at it. If it has a straight barrel (no over or underclock) and no scuffs on the finish, it will probably come home with me, assuming they have not sold it yet.
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Hope you get it,you will love it.
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The snub 627pc is next on my list. I already have a 4 inch 627 and a snub 327pc. These 8 shot N frames are awesome. Ed
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love my 627 pc snub...its my carry gun for now
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The snub 627pc is next on my list. I already have a 4 inch 627 and a snub 327pc. These 8 shot N frames are awesome. Ed
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Awesome is right. That's a big gun to carry concealed, as is any N-frame.
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I got them to come down from $979 to $949 + tax. Guess that is about the general range that they are selling for, when they are available.
I did see that KY Gun Co listed a credit card price of $870 (free shipping), but they have none in-stock, With a $25 transfer fee that would go to $895 delivered. If I buy from the LGS, I will be out the door at around $1,027. That is leaving $132 on the table, but I get to inspect before I buy, which is worth something to me.
Just checked Buds Guns and none are in-stock, but the last price was listed as $920.
You guys think $949 + tax is reasonable, or am I getting gouged?
I have an apt to see the gun at 11 AM tomorrow.
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I am very happy and impressed with mine. I've owned mine for about four or five years. Sold a Les Baer Custom Carry 45 ACP to be able to buy it. It was worth it in my opinion. Fabulous revolver. Very nice modern Smith and Wesson. Put toghether very well. Fit and finish is good. I took the lock out. Functions very well and is as accurate as any Smith revolver I've owned. If I were to go back to work and was to carry a revolver, the 627 5" would be the one. The fiveninch slab side is kinda neat!
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I just returned from the LGS. Unfortunately, this one had a couple scuff marks (shiney spots) on the matte finish. For over a $1,000 out the door, that was not acceptable on a new gun.
The barrel cant was pretty good, but still off just a little bit. What really caught my eye was that the barrel seemed to angled off to the left ever so slightly. I am not talking about an under or over rotation of the barrel (e.g., cant), I am talking about the longitudinal axis of the barrel seemed to be skewed ever so slightly to the longitudinal axis of the frame. I don't know if this was an optical illusion or if it really was crooked.
Anyway, I will keep searching until I can find one that does not have issues. This is the 6th PC 686 or 627 that I have looked at in the past 2 months. Everyone of them has either had a canted barrel or a scuffed up finish. Not good when they are asking about a grand for these things.
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