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Does anybody else have a set of Hogues like these?
These were made by Hogue in the early-mid 1980's and are made of a hard composite material, not like the softer rubber ones found today. I have a black set somewhere around here for a K-Frame square butt. I'm hoping that members that post in the S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the present might remember these on their guns and make a comment.
Does anybody have a set of white ones like these or was I the only one that bought a set?
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I have never seen them in my life. I would like to have a pair though.
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You can still get the hard black ones.
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I have never seen them in my life. I would like to have a pair though.
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I agree, they look sharp!!!
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They are made of nylon rather than a rubber compound. I had a set of black ones on a converted model 28 (to .44 Spl). The attachment hardware was a little different on mine (from the 70's) compared to what they use today. You had to remove the cross-pin from the bottom of the grip frame. The stirrup then fit over the bottom of the grip frame, behind the main spring seat. There was a "barrel" with a threaded hole, crosswise through the body of the barrel. There were lugs on the ends of the barrel that fit into like shaped holes in the stirrup legs, which oriented the hole vertically. The grip screw from the bottom of the grip screwed into the barrel held captive between the legs of the stirrup.
Much better attachment method today, utilizing the cross-pin. These nylon grips were the forerunners of today's fiber laminate grips.
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I have a pair of these but black square butt K frame. I also have a pair of 1911 grips in the same material. I wouldn't have thought to explain the mount like Pizza Bob did, but remember it now that I read his post. The 1911s have a coke-bottle swell in the middle. People either loved or hated that when they shot my gun.
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Those are awesome. Learn something here every day!
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Look like Bob Munden m29 grips
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I've got a set of these for a J Frame. I've only ever mounted them once. Though I do find them comfortable, I tend to go with wood grips on my revolvers. Still, they are rare enough to make it into the grip collection.
Scans of the installation instructions.
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Well I got to admit I never seen em in white. I used the nylons in black a lot when I used to shoot revolver in IPSC match's. I liked the hard nylon because if you did not get a correct grip on the draw you could readjust your grip on the presentation easily compared to the sticky rubber ones. Sorta like em in white.
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They are made of nylon rather than a rubber compound. I had a set of black ones on a converted model 28 (to .44 Spl). The attachment hardware was a little different on mine (from the 70's) compared to what they use today. You had to remove the cross-pin from the bottom of the grip frame. The stirrup then fit over the bottom of the grip frame, behind the main spring seat. There was a "barrel" with a threaded hole, crosswise through the body of the barrel. There were lugs on the ends of the barrel that fit into like shaped holes in the stirrup legs, which oriented the hole vertically. The grip screw from the bottom of the grip screwed into the barrel held captive between the legs of the stirrup.
Much better attachment method today, utilizing the cross-pin. These nylon grips were the forerunners of today's fiber laminate grips.
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Yep, that's them!
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I've got a set of these for a J Frame. I've only ever mounted them once. Though I do find them comfortable, I tend to go with wood grips on my revolvers. Still, they are rare enough to make it into the grip collection.
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I wish I would have bought a set for every revolver I owned back then....wait a minute...I did. I wish I had a set for everyone I owned now! I do love how they feel.
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I wonder if modern hardware would work. Hogue will send you a little hardware kit for free.
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No, because there is no accommodation for the cross-pin in the interior channel in the old style grips.
I got some of the original hardware for a set of wood grips made by Guy Hogue. Bought the grips on Ebay and they came with modern hardware. Contacted Hogue (which is how I found out the grips were original Guy Hogue's) and they sent the correct hardware. That was quite a long time ago but it never hurts to ask.
Here are my Guy Hogue grips on my 25-2
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Back when I installed these Hogues (early 80's), the rubberized version didn't exist, just the hard polymer version. But, I still like them, they're very comfortable. The gun was very comforting on those long midnight shifts too!
I actually remember those white grips and had a couple of pairs of them for a Model 60 & my 2 1/2" Model 66. They really didn't appeal to me at the time, kinda like pink grips on guns today, so got rid of them. Now, I wish I still had them!
I find it rather curious at the bottom of the instruction sheet, the note about cleaning the grips, using Armorall. I can't imagine trying to hang onto the gun with that stuff all over them!
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Back when I installed these Hogues (early 80's), the rubberized version didn't exist, just the hard polymer version. But, I still like them, they're very comfortable. The gun was very comforting on those long midnight shifts too!
I actually remember those white grips and had a couple of pairs of them for a Model 60 & my 2 1/2" Model 66. They really didn't appeal to me at the time, kinda like pink grips on guns today, so got rid of them. Now, I wish I still had them!
I find it rather curious at the bottom of the instruction sheet, the note about cleaning the grips, using Armorall. I can't imagine trying to hang onto the gun with that stuff all over them!
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It's funny how tastes change. I found myself liking things once they are rare, aren't made anymore, or more expensive. Like I said earlier, I wish I had one for every revolver I currently own.
I must have missed the "Armorall" cleaning tip when I put them on. Maybe I should go put some on right now. MAYBE NOT!
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Bill Rogers hooked-up with Safariland and there were many Safariland branded products that were produced by Rogers. Some were also sold under his own "Rogers" brand. Here is a set of Rogers' "Birlwood" grips (misspelling intentional - that's what Rogers called them) on my 624.
Rogers said that he liked the design of Guy Hogue's grips, but the finger grooves didn't quite suit him, so they are slightly reconfigured on Rogers' grips. Bill Rogers, Guy Hogue and Fuzzy Farrant were contemporaries at the LAPD and probably influenced each other.
Rogers also collaborated on holsters and the Plaxco/Rogers holster became the Safariland/Rogers.
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Bill Rogers hooked-up with Safariland and there were many Safariland branded products that were produced by Rogers. Some were also sold under his own "Rogers" brand. Here is a set of Rogers' "Birlwood" grips (misspelling intentional - that's what Rogers called them) on my 624.
Rogers said that he liked the design of Guy Hogue's grips, but the finger grooves didn't quite suit him, so they are slightly reconfigured on Rogers' grips. Bill Rogers, Guy Hogue and Fuzzy Farrant were contemporaries at the LAPD and probably influenced each other.
Rogers also collaborated on holsters and the Plaxco/Rogers holster became the Safariland/Rogers.
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Now that's interesting information. I'm always amazed of the knowledge of the forum members and there willingness to tell some interesting history.
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.....Rogers said that he liked the design of Guy Hogue's grips, but the finger grooves didn't quite suit him, so they are slightly reconfigured on Rogers' grips.
Bill Rogers, Guy Hogue and Fuzzy Farrant were contemporaries at the LAPD and probably influenced each other.
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Ummm. Bill Rogers was an FBI agent. (Although I don't know where he may have worked before that.)
My 1982 catalog states he started his holster company in 1973 with grip production added in 1976. The '82 catalog spells it "burlwud."
He wrote to me in answer to questions in another grip thread that he had directly copied his grips from the early two piece Hogue grip, but had changed them slightly since the Hogue didn't fit him. (I agree with him.) He also copied the internal reinforcement that was a feature of two piece Hogue grip.
Origin of Bill Rogers sythetic grips according to -- Bill Rogers
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I stand corrected. I misspelled the misspelling. It was just meant to be indicative that they weren't made from real wood.
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Those look good on the stainless guns. I've never seen them before and I like em.
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White Hogue grips were rumored to have been made for the Bren Ten. I have never seen one in the flesh, but I'm hoping they exist. I néed to find a couple White Hogue sets for my K & J frames - those grips look freakin' awesome!
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Those look good on the stainless guns. I've never seen them before and I like em.
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White Hogue grips were rumored to have been made for the Bren Ten. I have never seen one in the flesh, but I'm hoping they exist. I néed to find a couple White Hogue sets for my K & J frames - those grips look freakin' awesome!
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I liked them when I bought them. I really like them now. I've been searching the internet for any of them for sale....no luck.
I placed a WTB ad in the WTB forum but only once response from someone missing parts on it. I also just missed a black set in the WTS forum.
WTS Hogue and S&W grips for K frame SB/RB
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Don't remember what year it was but Safariland bought out the competition, Roger's Holsters. With it they got the holster and grip designs. The Safariland grips were no more than Rogers grips with their name on them. Most people don't realize he was also the pioneer of Kydex holsters back in the day. One of the main reasons that drew Safariland's interest to him and his products. I still have one of the open top paddle holsters for the 1911. He was also a consultant to Safariland for some time as part of the deal.
I was one of his dealers back then and bought and sold many of his products to my LE cronies and at gun shows. They were very popular back then. His company was growing by leaps and bounds, but Safariland made him an offer he couldn't refuse. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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