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06-24-2015, 09:08 PM
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Picked up my first two used Revolvers 360PD and 629 Classic Please Help
Hello folks, I am new to the forum and revolver community but am very excited after picking up a 360PD AirLite 38/357 and a 629-6 Classic 44 Magnum. Both appear to be in good used condition as they just need a little cleaning. After reading about how revolvers work the only problem that I notice is that when cocking the hammer back on the 360PD the cylinder doesn't fully lock into the groove of the cylinder. If I rotate it slightly (barely touching it) by hand while cocked in SA the cylinder will lock into place (you can hear and see the click). I have fired a couple rounds before noticing this and it appears to function just fine. I have also used snap caps and as soon as the hammer drops it appears to lock into place. Could giving the revolver a good cleaning fix this? I am guessing this is not normal, I would like to use this as a CCW Revolver if I can get this resolved. Oh by the way I picked up both for $800, is that pretty decent? Thanks a ton!
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06-24-2015, 09:24 PM
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That would make me gigantically uncomfortable. It seems the timing is off a bit. Some of my revolvers wait to lock up until right until the hammer drops in double-action, but in single-action they all lock-up right before or when the hammer locks back in the cocked position (including my 360J -- the .38 Special version with a steel cylinder).
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06-24-2015, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashlander
That would make me gigantically uncomfortable. It seems the timing is off a bit. Some of my revolvers wait to lock up until right until the hammer drops in double-action, but in single-action they all lock-up right before or when the hammer locks back in the cocked position (including my 360J -- the .38 Special version with a steel cylinder).
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Thank you Sir for your reply. I am guessing the timing is a bit off too so can I just have it sent directly to SW for repair? I picked it up used so is there any possibility they would pay for any portion of the repair (warranty)? Or will I most likely be out what the total repair cost is?
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06-24-2015, 09:34 PM
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Nice find and a good deal. If they are filthy, a good cleaning could improve their function. But,I would have a respected, qualified gunsmith look at them both, especially the PD. If you are going to CC, reliability is imperative. You have plenty of room in your cost to have some tuning done.
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06-24-2015, 09:37 PM
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Give them a good cleaning and see if that helps any. It can't hurt and may take care of the issue!
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06-24-2015, 11:03 PM
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Sometimes, if you very carefully and slowly cock a revolver, what you describe will happen. Keep in mind that when you cock the gun normally, at normal speeds and normal pressure applied, there is some momentum applied to the cylinder which will allow it to lock in place prior to firing, either in single or double action mode.
I would suggest you cock the revolver single action as you normally would do when at the range. After the hammer is locked back, then gently move the cylinder to see if it's locked or not. If it is not locked, it needs attention. It's a bit more difficult to check this in double action mode, but you can hold the revolver up next to your ear and apply firm and consistent pressure to the trigger until it fires. Listen very carefully to the clicks as the action moves. You should hear at least two clicks prior to the hammer falling, one when the cylinder lock unlocks and then returns to contact with the surface of the cylinder. You should hear another click when the cylinder lock falls into place in the locking slot in the cylinder just prior to the hammer falling. Sometimes this happens almost simultaneously in double action mode. Takes a bit of practice to get this done, but that cylinder should be locked when that last click takes place. Check each cylinder chamber in both single and double action modes.
Since the guns are used, it is possible that the internals could be a bit gummy and would profit from the sideplate being removed and some solvent and a bit of light brushing or some canned air being applied to the cylinder lock mechanism (as well as the rest of the internal mechanisms) followed by some fresh oil to relubricate these parts.
Just remember that the cocking action is intended to work with a firm (not harsh) movement of the hammer (single action) or the trigger (double action), not a very slow and easy movement. If you should find the cylinder not locked after a deliberate cocking or double action motion, there is definitely a problem that needs attention by someone who knows what they are doing.
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06-24-2015, 11:10 PM
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Good advice above. They look lightly used but the previous owner may have filled the internals with lubricant, in which case spraying the internals with brake cleaner (and allowing it to drain out) followed by a small amount of oil will tell you if this is the problem.
You did fine at $800 for both, by the way.
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06-25-2015, 06:04 AM
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At $800 for both, you did very well.
To add to what others have already said, use caution when cleaning that titanium cylinder on your 360PD. The coating can be damaged by harsh solvents, and abrasives. S&W says to use Hoppe's Elite Gun Cleaner.
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06-25-2015, 10:52 AM
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Smith will fix the timing issue for FREE. And they will pay shipping both ways. Just call their CS dept and they will issue a FedEx call tag and pick it up. You will have it back in 3 weeks max.
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