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08-02-2015, 03:01 PM
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65-2 With cylinder latch safety
Ok Revolver guys , I just had in my hand a 65-2 with a cylinder latch safety . It is at a LGS and they were wondering about it also . I remember something about State Police and something like this but cannot find any info . Was this modified by a guy in a garage or a business . LGS took it in trade and want about $600. for it . No box or or Docs and this is Ma so everything costs more . Sorry no pics . I like interesting guns and this could fit the bill .
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08-02-2015, 04:06 PM
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08-03-2015, 07:51 AM
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Yes , that is it . I have never seen one with it . Funny , The modification is done just a little north of me . Thanks for the info .
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08-03-2015, 08:19 AM
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It sounds like an interesting gun, but also as though they are asking for the price of a standard revolver plus the cost of the modification, so I think too high. Generally, gunsmithing costs such as this tend to be absorbed by the first person paying for them and don't add value to the gun afterward, with certain exceptions.
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Just something else to break or jam so IMO makes the gun worth less money ...
My revolver safety switch its called a "trigger"....
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08-03-2015, 12:05 PM
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I've always regarded this as a great solution in desperate need of a problem. I DO think it gives semi-literate mystery writers the cover they need for mentioning their hero who "slipped the safety off his revolver" as he went into action. I guess we have to say they are good for something!
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08-03-2015, 12:20 PM
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Long time ago Massad Ayoob did a couple articles about this gizmo.
Like I said it was a long time ago and I do not remember what magazine he was writing for then.
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Long time ago Massad Ayoob did a couple articles about this gizmo.
Like I said it was a long time ago and I do not remember what magazine he was writing for then.
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I think I saw the article you mention in American Handgunner, but I could be wrong. I got the impression then that it was a "great solution..." and the passage of time has not changed my opinion. I'm sure somebody out there likes them/has a good use for them, but I just can't warm up to adding a complication to the original "point and shoot" technology. JMHO, YMMV.
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08-04-2015, 08:46 AM
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As the old adage goes, "an unnecessary solution to a non-existent problem"
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The utility of such a device would be for the uniformed LEO. The "non existing problem" in this case is an officer having his/her issued weapon grabbed in a physical confrontation. A large proportion of officers being killed on the job happens with their own guns.
Every time an officer responds to a call there is a gun involved, even if it's only the one he one she is wearing. Keeping officers from being killed with their own weapons is a major training issue. The user of a safety device like this would know how to make it work, but it would be unlikely that anyone else would. Ayoob mentioned in one of his articles years ago at least one case where a criminal snatched an officer's 1911 but did not know how to disengage the thumb safety, as the gun was carried correctly in condition 1.
In his writing Ayoob has tended to support the concept of technology that improved a cop's survival chances, as long as it worked. I'd bet money that if he addressed this revolver lock in one of his articles it was in that context.
To have an issued sidearm that will operate only for the person to whom it was issued is a technological Holy Grail. Do you recall the gizmo that had a lock in the revolver grip that only unlocked when the user wore a magnetic ring?
Of course the difficulty here is reliability: the gizmo has to work every time or it's worthless, even deadly dangerous if it does not.
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It may have been installed by Rick Devoid, an S&W armorer who Massad Ayoob recommended for such things as the Magna-Trigger safety and the Murabito safety. Devoid's operation is called Tarnhelm Supply, I think. I suppose he would have logged in the revolver if he received it for work, so he might be able to look it up, but that type of research could take considerable time for someone in business as long as he has been in business.
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