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Old 11-24-2015, 02:45 AM
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Not true, a 3.5" producing over 2000 fps with factory FTX loads.

460 S&W: Velocity / Barrel Length

If you really want a 500 with a short barrel I would suggest the 5" JR if you can find, good balance in the hand and no compensator.

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I had no problems with this hairy guy. 7.5" 460 S&W


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That's with an extremely light 200 grain bullet. A typical length 454 will routinely push 240 grains that fast. Still useful, no doubt, but it's a neutered 460 in my opinion.

Funny you mention the John Ross edition 500, that's the one I'm always on the watch for!

Nice bear. I'd like to hear how the shot and kill went.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:31 AM
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And please..... Nonsequitur??? Parsing????

If you wish to "Bloviate" at least get "Non Sequitur" correct.......
I don't think you needed the petty conclusion.
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Old 11-24-2015, 08:39 PM
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Ya thread crapped AC, plain and simple. Something this discussion could have done without. Most folks realize when they have stepped on it and walked away.

@akmtnrunner, I agree with your post but I actually like the lightweight/fast 200 FTX for whitetail hunting. It will take them down with authority and at quite a distance. I think if I was hunting anything larger or tougher, I'd wand a heavier bullet.
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:04 AM
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I'm looking into buying a cannon handgun! I don't know which revolver to buy? Can you guys give me your honest opinion of the two above mentioned guns? It will be used mainly for plinking and maybe deer hunting. Thanks in advance!
I would pick the 5" barrel 460 because of its caliber versatility and what I feel is a practical barrel length. I like the look of it better too.

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Old 11-25-2015, 08:14 AM
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Old 11-25-2015, 09:31 AM
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Ya thread crapped AC, plain and simple. Something this discussion could have done without. Most folks realize when they have stepped on it and walked away.

@akmtnrunner, I agree with your post but I actually like the lightweight/fast 200 FTX for whitetail hunting. It will take them down with authority and at quite a distance. I think if I was hunting anything larger or tougher, I'd wand a heavier bullet.
I've done quite a bit of 200 FTX testing at 200 meters and if I am having a "flinchless" good day I can stay well within a 9" pie plate , so i'm around 3-4 moa. Not bad at all for an amateur pistol shooter at 200 meters..
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Old 11-25-2015, 11:45 AM
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I've done quite a bit of 200 FTX testing at 200 meters and if I am having a "flinchless" good day I can stay well within a 9" pie plate , so i'm around 3-4 moa. Not bad at all for an amateur pistol shooter at 200 meters..
I'm amazed at the accuracy on my .460 with less than a 9" barrel as well. I would want something heavier for boar for sure, but for deer hunting or at the range I really like the 200 FTX. IMO, it actually exhibits less felt recoil than my SRH .454. Likely this is due to the reduced bullet weight and additional weight of the X-frame.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:05 PM
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I'm amazed at the accuracy on my .460 with less than a 9" barrel as well. I would want something heavier for boar for sure, but for deer hunting or at the range I really like the 200 FTX. IMO, it actually exhibits less felt recoil than my SRH .454. Likely this is due to the reduced bullet weight and additional weight of the X-frame.
Can't offer any hunting knowledge as it's not my thing but I can tell you I actually see comparable accuracy shooting the 300 gr XTP's out to 100 yds. The XTP's are also cheaper than the FTX's. My go to hyper velocity FTX load is using 50 gr of H110. The FTX's seem to show some better accuracy at 200 meters. If I load all the way to 52 gr I tend to experience stuck cases in the cyl. IMO No need to risk max abuse on my expensive 460 brass so I back off on the powder charge a bit and the brass extracts much better. I believe the Hornady factory 460 load for the 200ftx is 52.1 gr of H110 .
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Old 11-28-2015, 01:42 AM
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I bought both years ago to have in my collection I would not want to give up either. Several years ago I had a officer stop by the stone quarry where I was shooting. After several minutes of conversation I asked him if he wanted to shoot the .500! He was thrilled and sat down at my portable shooting bench and fired several rounds. Initially he had stopped due to a noise complaint but left me in peace after shooting. He got a big thrill shooting the big X frame. Either one is good but having both if possible serve as a great stress reliever and conversation piece. Thanks
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:48 AM
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Can't offer any hunting knowledge as it's not my thing but I can tell you I actually see comparable accuracy shooting the 300 gr XTP's out to 100 yds. The XTP's are also cheaper than the FTX's. My go to hyper velocity FTX load is using 50 gr of H110. The FTX's seem to show some better accuracy at 200 meters. If I load all the way to 52 gr I tend to experience stuck cases in the cyl. IMO No need to risk max abuse on my expensive 460 brass so I back off on the powder charge a bit and the brass extracts much better. I believe the Hornady factory 460 load for the 200ftx is 52.1 gr of H110 .
Next summer when I return from the ship I work on I plan on finally getting into reloading. I too will not be looking to load to the maximum. I experienced stuck cases with my RSH in 454 and do not want that again. I'll definitely check out the 300 gr XTP's.
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When I decided to get an X frame I was going to go with a 460. Liked the multi caliber versatility and have 45 dies and lots of brass being a 45 fan. I figure that either had plenty of power at any practical pistol range.

But, then along came a deal on a lightly used 8 3/8 500 complete with rings and Stainless Leopold 2X scope and some brass for the price of either gun new. So, I have a 500 and am completely happy with how it fills my X frame wants. I got lots of 45s anyway.

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