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Old 12-06-2015, 12:37 AM
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I recently read that S&W was coming out with another round of Classic models. But the article didn't say when. Do they release them one at a time or all at once? They did mention that one of them would be the Model 25 in .45 Colt. I have lusted after one these for some time and look forward to finding one at the local gun store. Possible or am I living in a dream world?
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Ducky2002,
Say, where did you read about new S&W Classics
coming out.

I have looked at their Financial Reports and don't
see anything mention of another round of Classics.

Another reason I'm asking is because I have found
a S&W 625 45 Long Colt Mountain Gun and this news
hinges on whether I buy it, or wait and see what
type of Model 25 comes out.

Thank you for posting the "heads up".
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New issue of GUNS & AMMO magazine had a column about it.
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I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why they don't bring out the 19 in both 4" and 6".
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[QUOTE=The Norseman;138830582]Ducky2002,
Say, where did you read about new S&W Classics
coming out.

I have looked at their Financial Reports and don't
see anything mention of another round of Classics.

Another reason I'm asking is because I have found
a S&W 625 45 Long Colt Mountain Gun and this news
hinges on whether I buy it, or wait and see what
type of Model 25 comes out.


It was in the January 2016 issue of Guns & Ammo, page 24. I think the 625 Mountain Gun is what I really want but there was no mention of it. A few years ago our local dealer had the 625 on display for $550 (I think). I have kicked myself for not getting it but I was there to pickup a new rifle and thought I had hit my budget limit. Kick, kick, kick ....
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Thank you Ducky2002 for the quick reply.

I shall investigate. In the mean time I will
have to go back and look at that S&W 625
45 Long Colt Mountain Gun again, that was
for sale.

Thank you.
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What was the asking price for the Mountain Gun (if you don't mind my asking)?
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The owner wants $1175. His wiggle room is $30, so
$1145. He has the Blue Cardboard Box too.

I a friend of a friend has a S&W 629 44Mag Mountain
Gun $750 w/box. I have been wanting to see.
I Hope that pans out, but I'm not optimistic about that deal.
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I wanted the 45 Colt. I have 44s collecting dust but have never owned a 45 Colt.
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I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why they don't bring out the 19 in both 4" and 6".
Me personally I would be all over the Model 28, 6" if it came out!!!!!!!
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The article in the new issue of Guns & Ammo was a good one. My take on it was that it will serve to inform people as to what the vintage revolvers are really worth. This may make it a little harder to find deals on these guns at your local pawn shop in the future. The author states that around $1000 is the correct price to expect to pay for the new revolvers. He indicates that the true vintage ones are going for significantly more than that. This information is good for the market if you're sitting on a pile of vintage Smith's. It's not so good if you're still in the process of locating and buying them. I started buying when the Classics line first came out. I figured that a new M36 or M10 would be priced around $750 so, why not buy a nice vintage one for $250. Here's hoping that none of our dealers around here read Guns & Ammo. I am still enjoying buying the old M19's and M28's in the $300 - $400 price range, and have stacked up quite a few. If our local sellers get "informed" and start putting them out for $1000, I will stop buying and likely start selling.
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What was the gist of the Guns and Ammo article on the Classic Series?

Was there any mention of future offerings?
NO!

It was editor Patrick Sweeney musing about how he has shelf fulls of various classics but didn't have a 6-inch .45 Colt.

In his "review" he never mentioned, for instance, the Model 586 which has been around. He lauds the K frame but pictures only show .22 K frames and a Model 10.

For those wishing for a Model 15 or Model 19, nyet.

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I notice several posters are interested in guns with a "6" as the first numeral. I think the "Classics" have all been carbon steel in blue and nickel so far.

S&W could certainly do Classics in stainless next.
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I bought a nickel six inch M-24 classic and a blue six inch M-25 classic when they first came out. They both are very good shooters. Got a good deal on both as at that time they really were not selling well. Don't really care for the locks but they grow on you after a bit. The good thing about em is that I can shoot the snot outa them without getting the "vintage vapors"!
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Got it (S&W 625 45 Long Colt Mountain Gun), Shot it,
cleaning it now, and 45 cases in the tumbler.

Pictures coming.
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Used of course. Good honest use. Not abused. I don't
think it was shot much.





These grips are bad for shooting. These are not for serious
shooting, just show. My 6 reloads were painful.
Will be replaced very soon.



All cleaned up. Two screws were loose, so I decided to
take Side Plate off, and clean inside. It was amazingly
clean inside.





Thank for viewing and letting me show-off Ducky2002

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Norseman, this time you are the "Lucky Duck".
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Often S&W will introduce new models at the SHOT Show, which is "just around the corner." I suspect some of the magazine writers have been sworn to secrecy about ad copy which has already been provided, etc.

Thus, and editor cannot write that "S&W will introduce a Model 25 as part of its Classic Series," but he CAN write that he thinks S&W should do so. This has the advantage of non-disclosure AND gives the appearance that the author is clairvoyant.
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I don't understand how S&W can call them "classic" series and have a lock.
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I've bought five of the Classics guns:

Model 27 4". Near perfect bluing, good action but accuracy is not as good as most of my 4" S&W revolvers. Working up hand loads for it and am seeing improvement. BC gap is .006 to .008.

Model 25. 45 LC with a 6 1/2 barrel. The thin tapered barrel is nice and light giving a very balanced feel. Very good bluing. accuracy has been only fair, with a tendency to lead starting just past the frame. Possibly a slight constriction at the threads, may try fire lapping it.

Model 57 6". Came with faultless bluing, really good action and particularly nice stocks. The BC gap varied from .005" to .013". Bought this one from Buds and accepted delivery assuming S&W would fix the BC problem, which they did. A 10 day turnaround and they replaced the barrel. Now it has an even .004" gap and is proving to be amazingly accurate, with no tendency to lead with MBC cast bullets. Getting some 1" to 1 1/4" groups, rested at 25 yards with my first reloads for it. Glad I took a chance on this revolver. It's a winner!

A 586 4" and a 586 6". L frame .357's, what else needs to be said? Both have minor flaws in the bluing if you look close enough. I bought them to shoot, though. Both had heavy DA pulls but good SA pulls. Around 1,000 rounds each and some dry firing improved both. I have a few thousand of the notoriously hard CCI magnum primers to use up so I'm leaving the 6' gun stock for now. The 4" gun got a Wilson Combat spring kit with the 13# return spring and a slight polish on the rebound slide. This set up has maybe 20% light strikes on those CCI mag. primers but is 100% on everything else. The 4" gun has an even .0045" BC gap and the 6" gun a tight .006" even gap. Needless to say, both are highly accurate.

I ordered a Model 27 6.5" Classic from Bud's but it arrived with a scratch on the cylinder so I returned it without accepting delivery. That gun had a beautiful finish, nice stocks and a good, even BC gap. Bud's credited my card the same day they got the gun back.

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I notice several posters are interested in guns with a "6" as the first numeral. I think the "Classics" have all been carbon steel in blue and nickel so far.

S&W could certainly do Classics in stainless next.
Smith made thousands of 629 Classics in stainless steel, 5", 6.5" and 8-3/8" . Some were even Classic DX's which had extra grips and sights and some had targets included which showed the accuracy of that individual gun.
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I am still enjoying buying the old M19's and M28's in the $300 - $400 price range, and have stacked up quite a few. If our local sellers get "informed" and start putting them out for $1000, I will stop buying and likely start selling.
The sellers in Texas are informed. A 28-2 for 3-400?
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I live in Georgia. Two 28-2's in the past 16 months for $365 each. One with a 4 inch barrel and one with a 6. Both really nice. Bought a like new M19 last week for $325. . .4 inch barrel and happened to be the rare 19-P. They are getting a bit thin around here though. The big gun shows in Atlanta are not turning up that many any more. At least not in the past 3 months.
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We all have favorite models, but I'd be willing to bet that a 3" no-lock K frame would sell...
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We all have favorite models, but I'd be willing to bet that a 3" no-lock K frame would sell...
Wed I am picking up from layaway a 10-7, 3 inch I lucked out on for $378. I have a thread I started that I will post up pics if I get a chance next weekend, but if not definately the next week as I am off till after New Years. In the meantime need to check my accessories inventory because am positive I have another Tyler T K square butt grip. Going to make this my go to carry piece.

DocB, no doubt I need your luck with the N frames as I consider the 4 inch 28-2 my last remaining "can't live without it" Smith. (at least for the moment anyway.) Several years ago I almost found it on GB. The gun was up from a local well known gun dealer that offers just about everything, except they are waaaay overpriced on most items. This offering wasn't priced too bad considering and I ended up the winning bidder under the stipulation that the gun was original finish. But afterwards the dealer emailed and apologized for the mistake as the gun was a refinish. Of course I had the option to opt out of the sale and I did. Don't regret that at all as I will take a holster worn gun anyday over a pristine refinish, just the way I am. But I have seen nothing of interest since and this remains the Smith still "on the lamb" from my collection. That's ok, it's all about the search And can't complain with how lucky I have been with other models. : )
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I finally made it to the range Saturday for an operations test. Shoots outstanding. Here are a few pics as promised. Notice the previous owner got the itch to look inside. Fortunately that must have been it as nothing unusual in the operation of the gun. Looks worse in the pic where he must hav attempted the pry method but its reslly very smooth and just a carry piece so although disappointed its hardly anything to worry about.

Anyway I can't always get to things right away but I do get to it eventually. Enjoy the pics. It might take a few posts to get all 4 up.
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Well my apologies Ducky for messing ip your thread. These last four posts should have been here:

10-7 in 3 inch


I will attempt to fix as soon as I get home. Sorry.
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Maybe more offerings in the N Frame 41 magnum. They are growing in popularity and cost too. I vote for a classic m57 with a 5" barrel in nickel. The 44 magnum had its hay day, if Dirty Harry used a 41 magnum and we had the Internet things would be different with the 41 magnum. The time is now to equal the score.

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I could very well be mistaken here, but-- I believe the first 'classics' came out in blue and stainless-- they were numbered and came in this case-- lower cut out was for a box of interchangeable front sights --- the top inside held the numbered certificate -- I have this unused one I picked up somewhere but I need to put it up for sale as I have never used it either. JMHO




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The REAL CLASSIC SERIES Revolvers are on GB, and other similar sites every day! I realize that I may be "bucking the tide" in this thread, but what S&W is promoting as "Classic" - AIN'T CLASSIC!!

If you want a no excuses REAL CLASSIC, get a vintage one in excellent condition - still plenty out there. Just my opinion of course and not trying to offend anyone who has one.
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I paid the same for the classic and "Classic."
20140707_133632 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
20140707_131658 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr

One was purchased for what it's worth and the other a bit less. No, model 22's in 45acp in excellent condition aren't a plenty and aren't at a realistic price range for me. Shooting that 22-4 is guilt free, the 357...not so much.

Some of you fellas need to get off the high horse. Putting a lot of mileage on a tough to repair/replace collectable isn't sound.
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