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Bullseye shooting with my JM Special
Recently picked up a Jerry Miculek Special 625-7 and took it Bullseye shooting today, the first time I've shot Bullseye in 2 years.
25 yards offhand using single action only I got this result.
Now that I have the gun, I can start using up all the target ammo I have in storage. Very challenging, but very fun.
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Some pretty slick shooting there! That's my theory: don't sell ammo, shoot it! Nice gun, too.
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Shooting an N frame with big heavy bullets is just plain fun.
That's a good group at 25 yards. If I finished the day with a group like that, it would be a great day.
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Nice shootin
And you suck! I so want one of those!
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Dad bought one of these used many years ago and durned near had a heart attack when he found what they were worth today.
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I don't want to split hairs, but that doesn't look like a 625 JM. It appears to be a 5" 625-7 PC. Nice shooting.
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That is great shooting and a beautiful revolver. I really miss organized Bullseye.
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I don't want to split hairs, but that doesn't look like a 625 JM. It appears to be a 5" 625-7 PC. Nice shooting.
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According to S&W it is called a Jerry Miculek Special.
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I like it! Good shootin too! I have an semi ordinary 625-8, JM. One of my favorites! Bob
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How did it work for the rapid fire segment of the match?
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Great shooting and that's a fine revolver that I have never seen before.
As a bullseye shooter, is there any crossover interest with PPC? I would think of the other competitions that would be closer than say IDPA or USPSA. Just curious b/c my range has an informal (25yd max) PPC match every month and it's the same 5 people that show up. The bullseye match usually has 20+ people on the line.
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How did it work for the rapid fire segment of the match?
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Didn't get that far. I was having enough trouble staying steady for slow fire. I'll do timed and rapid next session.
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Didn't get that far. I was having enough trouble staying steady for slow fire. I'll do timed and rapid next session.
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I used to shoot Bullseye matches for years. Mostly semi auto though. I did however shoo it a few times with my .44 and the timed and rapid fire sessions were a hoot ! Give it a try, if nothing else, you'll have fun!
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According to S&W it is called a Jerry Miculek Special.
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Keith:
Do you have the box with the product code on it? The only reference that I can find to a 625JM, other than the current full underlug 4" model, is to a model called the 625-6 Jerry Miculek Design, made in 2001 for Camfour distributors. These had a serial number prefix of "CJM".
I was basing my identification on the picture shown on page 356 of the SCSW simply captioned "625PC".
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I have fond memories of when eyes and nerves would let me do that. Unfortunately it's been awhile. Nice shooting.
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Keith:
Do you have the box with the product code on it? The only reference that I can find to a 625JM, other than the current full underlug 4" model, is to a model called the 625-6 Jerry Miculek Design, made in 2001 for Camfour distributors. These had a serial number prefix of "CJM".
I was basing my identification on the picture shown on page 356 of the SCSW simply captioned "625PC".
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Sorry, no box and no product code. Serial number is JMR00XX. This is the third one in this series I've owned since 2006, both of the others under JMR0100 as well.
Go to Supica and Nahas, Page 197, bottom right corner. I personally believe mine is a product code 170176, with different grips, even though it is a 625-7 and not a 625-5. The picture at the bottom of the page is of a -7, not a -5.
Here is a picture of mine with its original grips
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I have fond memories of when eyes and nerves would let me do that. Unfortunately it's been awhile. Nice shooting.
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I'm not shooting Bullseye regularly now as well, and have not for 2 years. I was not progressing as I thought I should. At 62 I was just shy of High Master but knew I'd not make it. BUT, I find practicing Bullseye shooting informally is very helpful. Two hands and shooting fast can mask a whole host of mistakes and problems. Off hand at 50 and 25 yards strips all that away and shows you (in glaring detail) where you need to improve.
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Keith:
What edition are you referencing. Page 197 in the 3rd edition falls in the Model 29 section.
The 170176 Product Code you reference is for the 625-6 Camfour specials. With an engineering change (-6 to -7) the Product Code would have changed also.
However, your serial number prefix would seem to indicate that it is some type of Jerry Miculek model. Maybe this will get cleared-up in the fourth edition. Nice gun regardless.
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This gun is definitely; 1) a Performance Center gun(with aluminum case), 2) heavily influenced by Jerry Miculek's input(he asked for short cylinder and broach cut rifling to facilitate lead bullets, 3) a mistake in SCSW #3 which will be corrected in volume 4, 4) serial numbers starting JMR means Jerry Miculek Revolver.
I bought mine NIB in 2002 and used it briefly in USPSA revolver class. I went back to 625 5" full underlug guns for USPSA and put JMR0158 in the safe. The only quibble I have with the original design is the "Jerry" stocks for Bullseye shooting. I personally know two people who used these 625-7s in USPSA very successfully.
I recently sold mine to a forum member who hasn't shot it yet.
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Keith:
Do you have the box with the product code on it? The only reference that I can find to a 625JM, other than the current full underlug 4" model, is to a model called the 625-6 Jerry Miculek Design, made in 2001 for Camfour distributors.
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I found the same thing. As soon as I saw his first pic, I knew I WANTED one and looked it up. All I found was the -6.
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My 5.25" 625 is marked 625-7 and the serial # starts CJM. Mine also has a silver cylinder release button, not black like yours. The black release is correct.
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The ONLY thing I don't care for about the revolver is the crooked barrel. It, and both the others I've owned, needed the rear sight all the way to the right to center up the shots. No excuse for that in my opinion. It can be corrected but why should I have to? Also, on the other two I owned the barrel at the frame junction was noticeably tighter than the rest of the bore. On this one that is not the case and I'm sure that is why the gun is as accurate as it is. But these are the types of production faults that I have little patience with.
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I'm not shooting Bullseye regularly now as well, and have not for 2 years. I was not progressing as I thought I should. At 62 I was just shy of High Master but knew I'd not make it. BUT, I find practicing Bullseye shooting informally is very helpful. Two hands and shooting fast can mask a whole host of mistakes and problems. Off hand at 50 and 25 yards strips all that away and shows you (in glaring detail) where you need to improve.
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Well Keith if you were competing as near Master and figure you'd break in soon you're better than Ive been since the 80's. I had a good three year scoring run and creeped over the Master line but it was short lived. I'm a bit older and never could break out of the upper end of Expert after that, then when I had to drop iron sights at age 63 and swap barrels and shoot a dot it just screwed me all up. I've just moved to MI and haven't found a good club and range yet so I've lost two years but I'm going back cause I think it's not only fun but therapy and as I have read concentration is good for older brains. I'm a big believer that Bullseye improves all shooting disciplines
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Thats great shooting! Offhand! I just shot mine last night. I have a 625 JM . Full underlug. Ive been developing a load using red dot.....i didnt shoot mine with the grips pictured tho. I put hogue rubbers on . My accuracy now, making adjustments on the gun is about 14 yards like that. I cant begin to brag any longer distance......thats the truth! Its allways too many factors for me: if it isnt the grip, it isnt my back, the powder, the sight- xyz!
What rounds did you use? With those grips? Does the barrel have a target (recessed) crown? What SA trigger pull?
(Mines is a 3.5#r)SA
Details man!
And if anybody is wondering.....i went from 4.9 grains to 4.3. Red dot. 4.3 was better. More accurate. More control.
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My 5.25" 625 is marked 625-7 and the serial # starts CJM. Mine also has a silver cylinder release button, not black like yours. The black release is correct.
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The black release button is correct unless it's not. My gun(bought NIB in 2002) has a plain stainless cylinder release and black hammer and trigger. S&W has always done things like that to confuse people who worry about such. They also use up leftover parts to make guns that don't fit any niche.
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Attachment 218366What rounds did you use? With those grips? Does the barrel have a target (recessed) crown? What SA trigger pull?
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And if anybody is wondering.....i went from 4.9 grains to 4.3. Red dot. 4.3 was better. More accurate. More control.
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I was shooting some of my leftover bullseye ammo which is a Remington 185 grain JWC in .452" diameter, over 4.2 grains of Vit N310, a Starline case and Federal Match primers. In my 1911s they hold 1.5" at 50 yards. In this gun they aren't nearly that accurate but plenty good for fun shooting.
The group was shot with the gun as shown in the pic, that is with the Nill Classic grips. I don't care for the original JM grips at all.
Here is a pic of the muzzle:
My SA trigger pull holds 2.5 pounds but not 2.75 pounds.
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My range dog JM
Used to use it for USPSA, then for Bullseye. Now it sits nearby the PC.
I found out the quick change front sight will pop out with some holster rigs. Threading the hole and added a set screw cured that.
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Keith;
That's a beauty! So's the gun (LOL)!!
I have two 625's and they are my favorite revolvers. One is a 625-8 JM Special with 4" barrel. The other is a 625-6 Model of 1989. I shoot nothing but home cast bullets in mine. They each shoot well under 1" at 25 yards off a rest. My target load is 4.0 grs. of Bullseye or equivalent (currently Titegroup) behind a .452" Mihec H&G #68 (200gr. SWC).
I've made a bunch of fine targets with those two revolvers. Did I mention that they are my favorites?
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I'm trying to figure out what I'm seeing in your two pictures. Is that a scope? On a wheelgun? Isn't that kind of like putting slicks on a Yugo? ;-)
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Scope on revo
For Bullseye it makes sense. My best scoring rig is a M-65 with a red dot. My eyes and shoulder like the lighter gun.
I did get motivated to take the red dot off the JM 625-8 today and shoot it with irons.
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I'm trying to figure out what I'm seeing in your two pictures. Is that a scope? On a wheelgun? Isn't that kind of like putting slicks on a Yugo? ;-)
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Keith;
I lost the vision in my right eye a number of years ago. Using a Red Dot sight, I converted to left eye, right handed, in TWO range sessions. The Red Dot sights have enabled me to keep shooting at a relatively high level. I'm certainly not going to scare any high master pistol shots but I do pretty dern good for an "old fat man":
Both targets standing at 25 yards.
Here's my "lovely pair":
Oh, and one last target (this was shot when I was much younger - I was only 78 when this one was shot - I'm 80 now and still shooting with a big smile on my face):
This one, again was shot standing at 25 yards:
And just in case you're wondering, Keith, I was NOT offended. Your comments reminded me of all of those wonderful days (would add up to months and months, no doubt) of woods wandering with a good, "naked" revolver on my hip. I can recognize good natured "ragging"... (:>))
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Dale,
I too lost some sight in my right eye 20 yrs. ago due to retinal detachment. I switched to left-eye, right-handed shooting with both iron and red dots. I'm primarily an action shooter and haven't done Bullseye since my Army days.
I also appreciated your use of Pachmayr Decelerators which I also use. I despise Hogue pebble rubber.
Good shooting to you!
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S&WIowegan;
Thank you for the kind words. While I think of it, I would like to thank you for the many helpful posts you have done for all of us, in the past, present, and hopefully, long in the future.
Merry Christmas! to one and all...
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All in good fun. I'm 63 and only hope I'm shooting at your level in another 17 years.
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Awesome! You guys are the best! My feeble attempts have only landed me good groupings at about 14 yards. And i also feel as if im a young pup among you all. Im 42 and with a bad back. Ive also tried my hands at shooting with red dots. uploadfromtaptalk1450125211207.jpg this is one of the "toys" im working on. A 686+ 6" uploadfromtaptalk1450125301087.jpg7 rounds in the middle! I was happy..... uploadfromtaptalk1450125375317.jpgthis is the 625JM! I put a fiber optic (green) helps with my eyes. uploadfromtaptalk1450125454864.jpghogue rubbers!
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