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I have given guns away. I have sold guns I no longer wanted or won in raffles to friends at ridiculous prices. But, I have never loaned anyone a gun. Never will.
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My sister borrowed a S&W model 15 .38 Special revolver from me about a year ago. I haven't seen it since. I'll probably never see it again.
Has anyone else experienced such gun "borrowing"? I'll bet so. An aunt, an uncle, a friend, a wife, an ex-wife - who "borrowed" your gun?
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Nobody gets to borrow my guns . . .
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02-07-2016, 09:39 PM
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Lent one of mine years ago to a friend. Nice over and under 12 ga. He kept it too long and finally asked him to return it. Found he put it away wet and it now had surface rust. This was 30 years ago. Still pisses me off to this day. Reminds me of the time my neighbor friend asked to borrow my car to teach his son to drive a manual transmission. No way in hell. Will never lend any gun, power tool, car, tractor, mower, or chainsaw to anyone no matter how well I know or trust them.
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02-07-2016, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Flattop5
My sister borrowed a S&W model 15 .38 Special revolver from me about a year ago. I haven't seen it since. I'll probably never see it again.
Has anyone else experienced such gun "borrowing"? I'll bet so. An aunt, an uncle, a friend, a wife, an ex-wife - who "borrowed" your gun?
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Don't have that problem here in California. It's actually a felony to let somebody borrow a gun for more than 30 days.
No, not kidding.
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02-07-2016, 11:52 PM
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Gold Cup NIB
Ruger gp100
Mossberg Cruise Pistol Grip
Speedmaster 552
All back in 1999 when we had our first kid and my wife didn't want guns in the house. My best friend of 30 years, he won't give the guns back but he has certainly treated me and my family well in ways that easily compensate for the guns. Plus I negotiated with my wife to buy a BMW GS1150 for giving up the guns. And I now have more than a few guns and NFA Items. Funny but I miss the 4 inch blued Ruger with the inlaid stocks that I bought used for about $250 the most. Anyone have one? Can I borrow it?
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Don't have that problem here in California. It's actually a felony to let somebody borrow a gun for more than 30 days.
No, not kidding.
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And that is why there is no crime in California.
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02-08-2016, 12:06 AM
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I don't borrow and I don't loan.
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02-08-2016, 12:07 AM
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I get put on the spot "in family" to loan guns. A long time ago my
Brother in Law, who never manages to hold on to guns, didn't
have a rifle for deer season. I had a couple dozen classic deer
rifles. Instead of one of them I lent him a spotless 742 Rem. he
Brought it back all skinned up. I have kept that gun for over 40yrs, to use for lend duty,I've got a beat up Sears 12 g pump
that is shotgun loaner. Handguns,no way....they want to dance
they can pay the band. The same with loading dies and bullet
moulds.
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02-08-2016, 12:26 AM
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I never let anyone borrow a gun! Learned a long time ago if you loan out your CAR or your WIFE. Chances are real good they both come back to you with a rod thrown in them. This goes for you GUNS as well.
Just a thought!
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02-08-2016, 12:46 AM
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I have loaned a specific M&P .38 to my sister one time (lasted 6 or 10 months), and my dad one time (lasted a year or two). Couldn't have done anything to the finish. Sister never shot it, but it made her feel safer. Dad put a couple hundred rounds through it, and carried it quite a bit. I was very clear with him that it was a loan and not a gift, and when his finances were such that he could get his own, I wanted it back, and if that never happened, I wanted it back when he couldn't use a gun anymore -IOW, he could hang on to it as long as he needed to - but he was not to sell or trade it, ever.
It was a gun stamped with his department logo that I bought for next to nothing, and it's back in my safe now.
I am currently babysitting a gun for a friend who is overseas. I haven't shot it, and don't really care if I do. I am also babysitting his truck (that he is still making payments on). The gun is not insignificant, but compared to a Chevy 2500 HD Duramax? I worry more about the truck. I have to drive it once or twice a month.
There are a few other people I have borrowed and loaned guns with, but the list isn't long. Worry more when someone wants to borrow a guitar - they're easier to damage.
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02-08-2016, 01:52 AM
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As far as lending goes:
Younger Brother: Mossberg 500 Pistol Grip 12 Ga., Ruger Single Six 22, S & W M19-4 2.5", S & W 442, Kimber Custom Compact 1911, Winchester M1 Carbine and Winchester M12 Riot 12 Ga. All are used for "Squirrel Control". His Ex and her boyfriend are kind of "Way Squirrely" and have made some "Interesting" comments about his health over the last couple of years.
Youngest Brother: Ruger 77 in 243. My Niece now uses it as her primary deer rifle.
Same Brother As Above for his daughter, my niece: Colt 6920. It was loaned to my niece via my brother when she first shot it. She now hunts deer during Archery, Black Powder and Modern Rifle. As she put it when she first saw the 6920 "MACHINE GUN JUVENILE DELINQUENT DEER SEASON IS OPEN".
One of my sisters: Glock 26 Gen 3 with CT Laser, night sights, 3lb trigger, Ext slide release, Ext mag release and about 12 mags. I never liked the gun anyway. "Lending" it to one of my sisters freed up some space in the safe.
Friend: T/C White Mountain Carbine 50 Cal Muzzle Loader and enough BP, 50 cal round balls, patches, 44 Cal bullets, Sabots and musket caps to start a second civil war.
On the borrowing side I've got two that won't/can't be returned to the people that "Lent" them to me because of their "Legal Problems".
I also have a few that were owned by a friend who's son committed suicide. He tossed all of his and his sons guns in a dumpster behind a local grocery store. I recovered them when he told me what he had done. He still doesn't want the ones not involved with his sons suicide after more than 25 years.
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02-08-2016, 10:24 AM
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There is something "Mystic" about a firearm with a lot of people.
Once they "Borrow" one they NEVER want to give it up.
Common excuse: "But you have so many, you should let me keep this one"
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"Just let me keep it until I can afford to buy my own" ( that time will never come-as long as they have yours, why spend their party money to buy their own)
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02-08-2016, 06:36 PM
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And that is why there is no crime in California.
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Yep, they recently outlawed "high capacity" magazines in several cities here requiring them to be surrendered.
You should have seen it: a line of scumbags stretched half a block to turn them in.... oh wait, my mistake. That's the line at the welfare office.
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02-08-2016, 07:56 PM
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In Colorado due to the expanded background check, no one may loan a firearm to another person for more than 72 hours. This includes family members; however, you may transfer a firearm to an immediate family member without an FFL if it is a "bona fide" gift. I'm not sure what that entails, but it sounds like more trouble than it's worth, and I think that's the point.
I don't loan books anymore because I seldom get them back, and when they have been returned, with only a few exceptions, they've been returned in much worse condition than when I loaned them, coffee rings, dog-eared pages (what--you never heard of a bookmark?), broken spines, etc.. This ticks me off to no end. Needless to say, law or no law, I wouldn't loan a gun to anyone unless under the most dire of circumstances. It just chaps my hide that certain people have taken it upon themselves to tell me what I can and can't do with my own damned property.
There is a bright side, though. If as in a post above, your spouse/partner/housemate suddenly decides she/he doesn't want guns in the house anymore for whatever reason (a fairly common occurrence), you can just say, "Sorry. The guns stay. It's the law."
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Not always that way though.
I have found that when you play it straight with a pawn shop they will sell it to you for what they paid for it and it will be cheaper. If they don't want to play that game, go to to the law and they will get it back for you and the pawn shop is out their money. You will have to press charges, but that does not bother me in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
I have a brother in law that had his Winchester model 94 chambered in 32 special stolen. He knew that it was stolen by a pill head friend of his son. He finally found it a pawn shop. They wanted some outrageous price for it as it is in great condition and pretty old. It was his dad's. His son said it was pawned for 150 bucks. My BIL's buddy told the pawn broker that they would give him the 150 and leave, or come around the counter pound his face, then leave with the gun. The pawn shop guy, knowing my BIL's buddy, took the 150. He should have beat him down anyway. You'd just have to know him.
I won't lend a firearm, tools or vehicles. They just cost to much to replace.
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02-08-2016, 11:04 PM
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I don't loan guns. I'm responsible in a way if they use them.
True story,
My neighbor told everyone he was thinking about killing himself to everyone who would listen to him. I think the emts were there for his heart attack number four. He had guns out all over. While he was in the hospital the police broke in his house and took all his guns. He calls me to borrow a gun. I said I can't do that. He must of told the emt he was going to shoot himself. He was home when he passed away. Nice guy when he was healthy. I miss him and his wife.
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From the time I was a young adult I learn not to lend my guns, my truck, or my tools to anyone. Now if they want to use anything of mine they are more than welcome to come with me to the range, have me drive them, or hire me to fix what they need fixed.
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I only loan guns to those I've known for 20 years or +. It has served me well.
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Originally Posted by Ed Fowler
My new rule, if I load a gun to someone I will take a vibro engraver and write Property of Ed Fowler (city) on the action.
#1) This will prevent me from loaning out a great firearm.
2) the person borrowing it will know it is not a gift.
3) just maybe the pawn shop will call me and I will not have to hunt for it.
I have found that when you play it straight with a pawn shop they will sell it to you for what they paid for it and it will be cheaper. If they don't want to play that game, go to to the law and they will get it back for you and the pawn shop is out their money. You will have to press charges, but that does not bother me in the slightest.
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