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Old 04-16-2016, 10:31 PM
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I see available online a model 617 mountain gun, 4 1/8" in 22LR. I can't find any info on this online. The SKU is 150929. Description says it's new 'old' stock. Anyone have any information or experience with this piece? Think it will make a perfect carry around the farm! THanks
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There was a recent post about it with a photo. They could have very well named it the 618. Someone here will have one soon and post a report.
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It's a step in the right direction. A sku that starts with "15" usually means it's not standard production. Maybe a limited run for a certain distributor. You can see it's a 10-shot. I'd like it better if they lost the ejector shroud.

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$649.99 Item Number: 150929 Smith & Wesson Model 617
Mountain Gun 22LR 10-Shot Revolver with 4 1/8-inch Barrel

Available at Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore and Slickguns.

This Model 617 Mountain Gun is part of our S&W Archive Collection -
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•SKU: 150929
•Model: 617 Mountain Gun
•Caliber: .22 Long Rifle
•Capacity: 10 Rounds
•Barrel: 4 1/8" Tapered
•Front Sight: Black Ramp
•Rear Sight: Adjustable
•Grip: Synthetic
•Action: Single/Double Action
•Frame Size: Medium - Exposed Hammer
•Finish: Satin Stainless
•Overall Length: 9.13"
•Material: Stainless Steel Frame / Stainless Steel Cylinder
•Weight Empty: 38 oz
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Is it on the K frame or the L frame? I'd be interested in a K frame.
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617 would be a K frame. I REALLY like that one!!
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Yeah, a 22 Mountain Gun would be really handy if you were attacked by a weasel or marmot..Willyboy
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I wish it didn't say mountain gun on a 22 but it didn't stop me from ordering one! Thanks for sharing, I had been looking for a good deal on a 4" 617 and the semi lug barrel is different in a good way.
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They are gone,,,
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Well, I bought one (I think it might have been the last one they had). It should be in my hands on Thursday.
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Well, I bought one (I think it might have been the last one they had). It should be in my hands on Thursday.
Congratulations. Looks very cool. Please let us know your thoughts after a range session.
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I just checked on Smith's Web Site for the specs on a regular 617 and the new Mountain Gun is considerably lighter....by.9oz.
Nice gun-more selections-glad to see Smith putting it out. I'll hang on to my 617-4.
Although I'd be curious if it has the new ball detent locking system like thge new 66 and the 669 or whatever the number is of the new L frame .44 mag
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Called S&W about the 617 Mountain gun and this was a special distributor run that was done this year. I missed getting one "by that much", as Maxwell Smart would say!!!

The L-frame 44 is a 69. Also curious about lock.
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I ordered one as well before they were out of stock!
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Ya don't suppose that they have any left over barrels at the mothership???? One of those would look good on my 617-4
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It's a step in the right direction. A sku that starts with "15" usually means it's not standard production. Maybe a limited run for a certain distributor. You can see it's a 10-shot. I'd like it better if they lost the ejector shroud.

Color me skeptical, but that 10-shot cylinder certainly appears to have been photoshopped into the frame. (The color of the stainless of the cylinder doesn't match the frame).

I hope I'm proven wrong...........but a new 617 for $650?? C'mon, this smells REALLY fishy.

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but a new 617 for $650?? C'mon, this smells REALLY fishy.

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Photo may be composite but gun is real. It took S&W a few minutes to find because it was not regular run, but it was a special distributor run this year. He also said that was a good price. I also asked about parts barrel and said they had none. Straight from the horses mouth this morning!
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I would have jumped on one of those barrels as the donor for Project 616 when it was being built... I guess I'm probably better off with the heavier barrel, but this Mountain Gun configuration would have made a sweet looking 327 Fed Mag carry gun!

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I hope I'm proven wrong...........but a new 617 for $650?? C'mon, this smells REALLY fishy.

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My local FFL that will receive it was already registered with the seller,, and had purchased guns in the past from them,,, so,, I am hoping all is well.
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I also called S&W about a barrel. They have none. Sounds like they should make a few?
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Yeah, a 22 Mountain Gun would be really handy if you were attacked by a weasel or marmot..Willyboy
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Yeah, that's what got after Jimmy Carter in the Okefenokee years ago....or maybe not.
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....The color of the stainless of the cylinder doesn't match the frame...
Maybe it's aluminum. They done it before. Gotta keep a Mountain Gun lite. No one wants to haul a heavy gun up a mountain.
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Description in ad:

"This Model 617 Mountain Gun is part of our S&W Archive Collection -
a collection of rare Smith & Wesson firearms that are all brand-new,
in original condition, but no longer manufactured."

Makes it sound like this brand new limited run distributor exclusive was manufactured in the past and this limited supply was just found and sent out. What a load of bull. . . .

Although the ad is a load, the idea is great. a standard shroud on a K frame 4 inch 22 LR with a 10-shot cylinder. Excellent idea! Another gun that should be regular production.
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Something new for Mr. Supica to add to the fifth gen standard catalog! Can't wait for mine to come in now. Like a kid waiting for Christmas, thanks again to the OP for sharing, I hope you got one too!
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Yeah, a 22 Mountain Gun would be really handy if you were attacked by a weasel or marmot..Willyboy
A 22 revolver is probably the MOST useful gun to pack. Hunting small game and carrying 500 rounds of subsonic ammo is a worthy compromise to carrying a 460 and maybe 20 rounds in the unlikely event of a large animal attack. It also makes fine deterrent to cognitive 2 legged predators with the nearest hospital many miles away.
Also anyone and everyone would be able to shoot it if needed, even my 5yo knows what to do with it.
I always pack my 617 on my camping trips and sometimes my 66. The 629 is a safe queen and the 460 is just too big.

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Something new for Mr. Supica to add to the fifth gen standard catalog! Can't wait for mine to come in now. Like a kid waiting for Christmas, thanks again to the OP for sharing, I hope you got one too!
I was to slow for the 617 mountain gun purchase and did I really miss the 4th standard catalog ? Babysitting grandchildren must be distracting me a little to much . Oh well a scandium k-22 would be even better ! There wasn't one was there ?
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.....did I really miss the 4th standard catalog ? ....
The 4th hasn't even been released yet. It's due out in August. I think what 68sixspeed was referring to was any info on this new M617 Mountain Gun will have to go in the 5th edition. Since new info for the .4th was likely frozen 3 or 4 months ago., and this gun looks to be newer than that. So, the 4th edition isn't even out yet, and it's already obsolete in certain areas.
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I also called S&W about a barrel. They have none. Sounds like they should make a few?
I would be more interested in buying a barrel for a pre IL 617 .

Perhaps the vendor will realize another run is in order, and perhaps S&W will have a few extra barrels left over this time.
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My Fed Ex label is created,, the gun is due by 8PM Thursday,,,
So, hopefully,, real pics by Friday,,,

Would a 4-12X40 EER scope be too much to holster on this gun??



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The 617 Mountain Gun was back in stock,,, 5 minutes ago,,,
I ordered a second!!
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Well, I have one in my grubby hands - and it's sweet.


This one looks like it has been in storage for a while, as there's some corrosion on the frame where the serial and model numbers are found.


There is no new lock-up detent, as with the M69.


The Mountain Gun barrel profile feels much more balanced in the hand than a full-lug example. Shooting report will have to wait a few days until I can get to the range.


Pics are coming, probably later tonight. At first blush, it looks like a solid gun. S&W could add this one to the regular rotation, and see some good sales, IMO.
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I ordered a second!!
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[QUOTE=PatriotX;139052500]Well, I have one in my grubby hands - and it's sweet.[QUOTE]

Does the finish match all over? In the photo (maybe photoshopped) the cylinder and barrel look different. How is action? Thanks for the report, looking forward to seeing the range report. Congrats!!
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I just checked to see if sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore has any more in stock,,,

NO,,, but,,,, !!!

They raised the price by $50!!

Why would they raise the price on a gun that supposedly is NLA??

Figuring it takes about a week total to get my hands on the gun,, my rate of return due to the price increase is over 400%,,,

I wish I could get that on a CD!!!
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Wonder where they're getting more and who the original distributor is for whom these were supposedly made? If they're raising the price they must expect to get more in; perhaps they were made for Sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore? There is nothing about them on the S&W website and little or no information via Google although I could have missed some in searching. I would think some of the folks here would have run in to these before now if some distributor was actively selling them.

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Looks nice, but I am quite happy with my stainless model 63.
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Mine is coming in tomorrow (Thursday). I sure am glad I bought it before it went out of stock. Maybe I should have gotten two.
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They raised the price by $50!!
They just listed a 617 6" full lug 6-shot for $620 shipped--pretty good price on a new 617.
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They just listed a 617 6" full lug 6-shot for $620 shipped--pretty good price on a new 617.
Smith & Wesson Model 617 22LR 6-Shot Stainless Revolver with 6-inch Barrel | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore
I got one of those,, can I send it back to S&W to get the "LOCK" installed??



Maybe they can narrow the trigger and hammer too,, so it will look more like the newer ones!!
Then I could scribble out the TT & TH on the box,,,,
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Could the 617 Mountain Gun have been intended for export??

I see a 357 that states it was intended for export:
"This S&W Model 686 SSR Pro Series "Rappy" Revolver was a special-edition, manufactured as an export for the Italian market. It is part of our S&W Archive Collection - a collection of rare Smith & Wesson firearms that are all brand-new, in original condition, but no longer manufactured"
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Could the 617 Mountain Gun have been intended for export??...
That's entirely possible. The 'Rappy' 686s were sold in Canada as well, in a 5-inch barrel length. If memory serves, the logos were placed a bit differently on the 5-inch versions versus those at SOSS slated for Italy.


The 'Mountain Gun' nomenclature points more towards an English-speaking country, IMO. On the other hand, the revolver's rimfire status would be appealing to many countries in Western Europe, where it is mandatory to start club shooting with .22lr, or where licensing might be easier for rimfire weapons.


My WAG is Canada, with absolutely zero factual evidence to back it up.
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This maybe the closest we get to a SS mdl 18!
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Picked mine up from my FFL today...





First impressions...
The trigger is mice, better than my stock CZ-75's.
The cylinder needs a bit of a push to be opened, I assume it needs a bit of lubrication somewhere.
The rubber grips actually do seem to fit my hand.
The serial number prefix is CTD. Maybe this was intended to be a special run for Cheaper Than Dirt?

That said, I am very pleased with it, even though I haven't shot it yet (I need to find some .22lr first).

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The 617 Mountain Gun was back in stock,,, 5 minutes ago,,,
I ordered a second!!
So you're the reason I can't get my "first"
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So you're the reason I can't get my "first"
My first is setting at my FFL, which is 25 miles away,,
The second shipped today,, will arrive Monday,,

So, decisions, decisions,, waste a 50 mile trip to pick up the first,,,
just so I can drool a little??

OR,, just pick them both up on Monday,,, Hmmmmm

Sorry about the second one g-dad,,, but,
I got a 2 year old grandson that needs EVERYTHING that Pop-Pop has!!



How may years will it set until we can go shooting??
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Got mine too. New condition, bone dry, seems great. Only thing that took me by surprise is there is no 'mountain gun' on the barrel! No signs of it being removed. It is tapered and has the mountain gun profile, just no lettering! image.jpg
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Mine is waiting for me at the dealer, 8 shot stainless 627 arriving Monday. Now I am in the same dilemma as SweetMk, pickup one or wait.... Great problem
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sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore now says $699.99 but Temporarily Out of Stock
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