well a while back i traded for this and have been ill and not been shooting much...finally got some different grips on this and just seen this hole in the butt...why is it there and how to plug it?...i know i could tap it...but i do not want to affect the warranty...what have anyone here done?...any help will so be appreciated...God Bless, John

Does yours have the little steel rod that it came with or has it been lost? I realize it's a useless feature but that's the way they come when factory new.

Well mine was nib i did not see any steel rod but i did not look for one in the box
Can u please tell me more
Thanks for response God Bless,John

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I use the lanyard feature when on the kayak thing whilst fishing. Works well!




Allows carry up high in flotation vest pocket. No worries about it sinking when one goes for a tumble. (Not unusual in my case!) For instance, took a spill after lowering the boat down the small cliff to this beachless entry point:

Well might i have any better pics of the gun? Never seen one used this way
Thank u for the great info
Did they include the landyard?
How does it attach?
God Bless,John


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Mine just has a hole in the butt about 1/8 or so

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All the scandium frame gun I have had all came with the rod already in place .I would give S&W cs a call & explain so they can send you one. In the past I have seen posts on where to order one from & even how to make one.

Well thank i will call Smith tomorrow
God Bless,John

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It's just a straight pin. Could use the noncutting end of a drill bit cut to length, but it wouldn't be stainless.

regalsc probably has the best idea if you aren't in a rush.

As for using it, find a steel ring that will fit in the slot and under the pin. I believe I just found a spare key ring about and attached the "slinky" lanyard to the ring. Could have used one of the retractable key lanyards but they were either not constructed stoutly enough or had too much retracting tension.

Old school lanyards were just a heavy loop of string with a spring loaded clip at one end. But, if made the right length, could be used as a shooting aid. My "slinky" lanyard is just to keep the revolver from sinking into the depths.

Have heard that some folk have used the lanyard feature to hang the revolver from their neck as a mode of concealed carry, however, I don't believe I have the proper contours for such utility!

For some reason, I have always liked lanyard attachments on my handguns. Probably goes back to my first center fire handgun, a British Webley. I have also had victory model S&Ws and colt and smith 1917s so equipped . So when I got my first scandium J frame with the lanyard attachment, I was pretty excited!! I have used it when rock climbing down near our camp. I like the security that it gives when involved in strenuous activities, especially when on the cliffs, and rappelling off of a 200 foot cliff. If you were to drop your gun from that height, it probably would knock it out of alignment. BTW, I always keep the first couple of chambers loaded with bird shot when on those cliffs, cause we have lots of rattlers in that neck of the woods.

I have used the (gasp) Glock lanyard. I still have a couple of them. I didn't even know they made one until the Glock salesman gave me a couple when our department switched to Glocks in the 90s.

Best Regards, Les

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Those are pretty good lanyards. I should have one or three from when I was the Glock service department back in the late eighties. Haven't seen them in a while! No telling where they got off to in all these years. BTW: To get good tension when using one of those as additional support, you can knot the lanyard a few times, if needed. It will slightly change the POI, though.

I bought one of the 360J's recently and prior to doing so I did a little research on what it was. While I am by no means an expert this what I found from past postings here on the forum and elsewhere on the internet.

The 360J is a .38 special version, sort of, of the 360PD. If you look at the posting of the picture where the lanyard is attached that looks to be a 360PD handgun due to the cylinder color being a lighter color. I believe the lanyard loop on those run along the back side of the grip, which is different than the 360J, where it is drilled right in the middle of the bottom of the grip.

The 360J, from what I read, is produced by Smith and Wesson for the Japanese Police. They get released into the US market when there is an overrun or for some reason the contract is canceled. When I purchased mine recently, and the price was to good to say no, the vendor said they were from an order that was canceled. And there did/does seem to be a bunch of them available right now.

The lanyard hole in the bottom is used with some special grips, that I have no idea where they come from, and a lanyard knob attached at the bottom. I assume this is for the officer to retain their weapon while on patrol.

If you Google Smith and Wesson 360J Japanese Police there is a picture from an AR15 Forum site that shows these grips and the lanyard that goes with them. The poster there is asking about where to obtain the grips, and I must say if I could find them and that set up I would probably pick up some as well, and posted that S&W wouldn't tell him where the grips come from.

At one time when I Googled this gun I found several sites from Japan that appeared to sell this gun with the grips and lanyard. I found that weird because I believed Japan had pretty strict gun laws. Then when I looked deeper into the sites they were replica guns of the ones carried by the Police.

Smith and Wesson probably puts the longer grips on them here to hide the lanyard hole for the US market. I picked up some Bianchi Lightning grips for a J Frame and after a little bit of custom cutting put those on it.

Not sure how to fill the hole or if you could. There is no pin with these guns.

Sorry if a bit long winded.

Good luck and hope this helps.

For my money, what the Navy calls parachute cord and everybody else calls 550 cord is the best stuff to make lanyards from, and by far the best way to attach it to your pistol. It's plenty strong enough, and it will not mar the finish or substance of your weapon at the point of attachment or elsewhere.

Well u are 100 percent correct
I called Smith and that is what they told me
The gun i was told is Ceracoated all black and the factory grips are long and cover the butt
I did not get a solution from Smith what to do with the hole
here is that pic of the way the gun was designed for ....very interesting...


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what i am thinking would work is a dowel pin...i will can Smith again and maybe they will provide me with one...thank u all for the great info...God Bless, John...really appreciate it

Wondering if an old M1917 lanyard ring assembly wouldn't work?

(Not illustrated in schematic: P/N 358810B)

1917 S&W. Accessories | Numrich Gun Parts

As for stocks, ???

Well i carry mine in a ankle holster so i just want to close the hole
I am told Smith might provide the landyard if u ask

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No research so far on stocks ir who made them
I will ask when i call again today

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I think this is the one:

Smith & Wesson Lanyard Loop Pin S&W 242 296 331 332 337 337PD 340

I lost the pin when changing grips on my M242. I ordered a replacement, and a couple extras in case I lost it again.

You guys are talking apples and oranges. The 360j was a special run that has a hole drilled into the but of the grip frame. It is not the same as the lanyard groove milled into the backstrap with the pin that is so easily lost.

The OP is looking for a way to plug the hole to stop stuff from getting into the grip frame were the spring is. S&w solved the problem by shipping the gun with grips that cover the hole, the OP wants smaller grips.

If I were him I would put a piece of electrical tape over the hole, then put the grips on to hold down the ends of the tape.

Well just a update Smith tells me they are not sure what to do yet and will find a solution
I am thinking a solid roll pin
Will update once i hear back
God Bless,John

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Whenever I removed the grips that little pin kept falling out , one day it fell out and I lost it in my bedroom. I never gave it a second thought. It's been "lost" for years now and hasn't caused any problems.

I would go down to the hardware store and find a pin, nail , some kind of round stock or brass rod , that would be a tight fit , cut to length and gently pressed into place, the original ones just keep falling out.
Gary

Could the hole be filled with J-B Weld ?
Wish I could see a photo of the "hole" , mine is different, just a round pin that falls out .

I put short grips on my 360J and don't worry about the hole.

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Check out this thread scroll down to the picture on the yellow rug.

S&W M360J w/Scandium frame

Hole or no hole , great revolvers!!!

What about black caulking.
shouldn't add much weight, good seal and can be removed.

I would probably just put electrical tape over it and put the grips on to keep dust out. You definitely don't want something that can come loose and lock up the action.

I put Hogue monogrip nylon grips on mine to cover the hole and because they don't grab. I wish S&W would fit their 2 piece rubber grips so their isn't a sharp seam between the panels, but I do like the hex screws and the factory grips are decent.

hey that is a good idea...thank u ...easy to remove if i dont like it too...appreciate it..God Bless, John

well got a update on the hole...Smith tells me ...sorry they do not know how to fix it and to put the original grips to hide the hole and not their problem.....well i can not carry that with those grips...so i think i have four solutions....see which one u think i should do....1...well the caulking idea is a great one...simple and easy...2...well find a black metal solid roll pin and install it...but i will have to remove the roll pin that hold the grips in place as they goes thru the hole..just need to put a notch in the black roll pin and done...3...leave it as is...4...find a plastic black roll pin and do the same as 2...i am very shocked Smith told me not their problem...these are not cheap firearms .....God Bless, John

Oh ! I see....yeah that's a big hole.
I would try black silicon sealant, waterproof , will seal the hole and can be removed if needed.
I would use the black Permatex RTV Silicone Adhesive Sealant, that's some good stuff for sealing.
Gary

Some one posted the link earlier, but here is the picture of the older style "butt swivel" or lanyard attachment that was mounted on the WWII Victorys.



Numrich Gun Parts have them for $16.50. That would sure make an unusual J Frame. I think that the Japanese contract has a slightly different attachment, though, and no idea where you might get one.

Best Regards, Les

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well for a pocket carry gun...the lanyard is not a option....i use this in my pocket...in a ankle holster ....so that hole just needs to be closed up...

I understand. Just brainstorming... Hope that you find a good solution. I think the black caulk sounds good, inexpensive, and you can always remove it if you want to.

Best Regards, Les

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I really would rather put a black solid roll pin and be done with it
See what i can find
Either way i will get something to fix it



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A 22lr snap cap fits perfectly in mine. A dab of Silicon holds it in place. Jack

It is not their problem, they solved it by installing grips that cover it. As far as being cheap, my LGS is selling them for under $400, that is pretty much the least I have ever paid for a new gun.

Sorry you bought a gun that is not what you thought it was, but for the money you spent, you got a really fine gun. It is scandium @ aluminum price, almost 2oz lighter than a regular airweight for the same money.A great deal IMHO.

Hope you find a good way to plug it, Ed.

well just a update...well i figured out the hole size as 5.56 and my idea is to find a 5.5mm drill bit and use that as my starting stock..i can easily use a lathe to make my plug for it...and make it easy to make more if needed as well...just need to find a source of black 5.5mm drill bits and will posy pics once i get ready to install this...i disagree that this is not a problem for Smith and the rep from Smith finally admitted i am not the first to be upset with this....they have the tooling and this would have been a simply solution to fix this....but i won this and plan on keeping this for my lifetime...God Bless,John...so anyone with this same problem..let me know if i can help as well...

I've been carrying my customized 360J for almost 8 years in pockets and ankle holsters and have never worried about the hole and have never had an issue. I blow the gun out with compressed air once or twice a week and call it good, every now and again, like maybe every year or two, I'll pop off the side plate, flush it out with gun scrubber and lube it. In my opinion and experience you're worrying about nothing.




While these are not cheaply made firearms, they certainly are not expensive guns. And, like I said, you're making much ado about nothing. Take a look at all of your revolvers, there's dust and dirt creeping in past the trigger, the hammer, the firing pin, and the cylinder stop. Closing up that little hole isn't going t make any difference.

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I used an arrow tip to make a lanyard ring mount for my 360j. I tried it first with the crazy point left on it. Then I decided I wanted to make another one that was a little more practical. I had to make a groove with a file in the tip and push the grip pin out to put it in. After installing it I hammered the pin in the groove to secure it. I also threaded the trimmed aluminum inside from my arrow with a little blue loctite to cover the threads. It is super tight and works good so far. All done with a drill, hacksaw, file, hammer, and punch.

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i would have left the point on the field tip for skull checking

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