Trying to decide between a 627-5 PC or a 327 Sc. Besides the obvious weight difference and appearance, (I find something appealing about both) what the pros and cons for one over the other? TIA

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The 627 PC is a pleasure to shoot with .357. Haven't shot the 327, but I see that it's lighter than my Model 60 j-frame, and shooting .357 out of my Model 60 is no pleasure.

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I carry this in a BlackHillsLeather.com IWB holster.

I also shoot it for a EDC Home Defense shooting competition. It is very accurate out to 25 feet.

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the speer gold dot for short barrel revolvers .357 ammo works very well in my 627 pc. sorry no caps in a sling for 4 more weeks.

627 PC obviously handles .357 Magnum with far less lift and no pain; and, will handle +P defense loads better too particularly when fast follow-up shots are needed. The 627 has no problem out to 25 yards. 627 barrel is 0.625" longer. The 327 has some bullet weight limitations provided by the titanium cylinder. With the 327 one must be mindful in some cases of bullet creep. The primary advantage to the 327 is weight; and for my money, the only advantage.

True. But the Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel is arguably underpowered for .357 Magnum at 294 ft. lbs. I prefer the Buffalo Bore Short Barrel Barnes TAC-XP Hollow Point Low Flash Lead-Free .357 Magnum in 140 Grain with 411 ft. lbs. or the 125 Grain BB Short Barrel at 416 Ft. Lbs. in leadless loads.

Interestingly, if you look at Buffalo Bore's own multiple length short barrel testing with their short barrel loads, with the 2.625" barrel on the 627 you will get all of the energy referenced above. With the 2.0" barrel on the 327 you will not (reproduced here: Buffalo Bore Ammo 357 Mag Short Barrel 125 Grain Barnes TAC-XP Hollow). This is also the case with BB's excellent short barrel .38.

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Thank you all for the replies. Dwever what make & model is that holster?

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That is a Galco Combat Master with a Galco SB2 Belt. The Combat Master is a great leather speed holster, and I have competed with it.

But, for defensive carry, I always use a retention holster such as the Galco High Ride Silhouette.

Is there a 627 without a lock?


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Yes. The first offering of this model was before the IL.

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Thank you.

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I don't carry my 327 often, but they do have
some recoil with 357's. I usually carry 38+p.

I had an Ruger SP101 327 3" barrel. I sold it. I now have a 627-5 pro.

I had to put Hogue tamer grips on the SP101 because with stock grips it kicked like a dang mule. My fingers felt like they had been pulverized. It wasn't bad handling recoil after changing the grips.

Another thing to consider is .327 ammo is a good bit more expensive. .32 ammo also runs around $20 for 50. Shooting the SP with .32 ammo is a no recoil dream to shoot. Like shooting two totally different guns when shooting the two calibers.

I don't know about the S&W 327 trigger but the SP101 trigger in DA was really heavy.

I really like my 627-5 pro in .357 with it having mostly pros other than the size being the only con and that is only if the gun is for CC which mine isn't.

Also if you reload then 38 spl & 357 are more than likely a lot less expensive to reload than .327 would be.

The S&W Model 327 Sc I'm asking about is chambered in .357 mag not .327.

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Thanks. Do you know the other changes between each iteration?


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Got to love S&W model numbers. Like the 357...an alloy framed .41 Magnum

This is the first time I have ever seen these higher capacity snubs. Wow, they sure are ugly. Sorry about that.

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In my opinion the snubnosed should be lightweight, and the stainless have a longer barrel for range fun and open carry. Be aware the 327 pug nose has fixed sights were as the UDR is adjustable.

My 327 is amazingly accurate, and a joy to shoot, a lot easier to handle .357's than a scandium J frame.

I could not be happier with these two revolvers. Both are a joy to shoot and carry.

Not sure it is the best advice to generalize what all snubs should be as preference is often driven by purpose. Specific utilization can necessitate certain characteristics and materials that make a weapon you avoid ideal in another application.

The snub nose 627 stainless steel UDR is the "Ultimate Defensive Weapon" for some because at 37 oz. it is an easy belt carry but has enough recoil managment for quick accurate follow-up shots with ammo that has stopping power. It's 2.625" barrel conceals nicely while having enough length for accuracy and adequate projectile acceleration. I've passed our 50 round agency qual course with both the 627 snub and the 586 L-Comp (pictured below), both at 37 ounces, and my scores placed me well within the scores achieved by the agency mandated Glocks. I would not attempt that course with an N Frame 327 Pug (weight and length) or any J frame (capacity etc.) because the timed course-of-fire requires shots as far out as 25 yards from multiple positions and even with an 8-Shot requires 6 often rapid moon-clip reloads. Further, in the woods I have for ammo I use 610 ft. lbs. Federal Premium .357 Magnum in my 627 and TRR8, something that would be painful for most to shoot with the Pug. The Pug is a great weapon to be sure too.

Conversely, my favorite longer barreled .357 Magnums are actually not stainless steel as suggested they should be; they are scandium framed with stainless steel cylinders 327 TRR8 and 327 M&P R8. They are by far the best shooting .357's I've ever owned or shot, and their big size and length makes a lighter frame material like Scandium a fine choice as they still achieve over 35 ounces in weight and have very satisfying balance and speed. There's just no application in a .357 Magnum where I need forty plus ounces whilst in a .44 Magnum that kind of weight would be welcome.

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8 shot snubby.......... why a 3913 of course..... nice and flat!!!!!

They are no longer in production. If you hunt, used ones come up for sale occasionally. But, $$$

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You make good points, I was speaking for my purposes, and in my opinion. Obviously others will differ on both points. Thanks

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