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I just ordered 3 of these bad boys. They are enroute to my ffl, and should arrive the 1st of the week. And the anticipation begins! I have a pair of genuine S&W combat stocks already waxed up for one of them.
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I tried not to, but I also got one on the way.
Center Fire has great customer service. My FFL was not on their list so I called them and a gal named Kay looked up my FFL, called him and now it's a done deal.
I asked her to pick me out a good one, she laughed and said there aren't many left. So if your sitting on the fence, don't wait too long.
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I ordered mine last night and just received shipping notification.
At this price, these "diamonds in the rough" are just too hard to resist.
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You guys that have taken the sideplate off: Did you have to use heat on the red LocTite?
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I had no trouble with the screws. I think the red material on the screws is an "anti-vibration" treatment, and is not a traditional (loctite) red thread locker per se.
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I ordered mine just now!
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I had no trouble with the screws. I think the red material on the screws is an "anti-vibration" treatment, and is not a traditional (loctite) red thread locker per se.
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Yes, they come out quite easily. Actual red locktite would have taken a good bit of work. I did use a small dab of blue locktite when I put them back together. It's much easier to get loose.
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I had no trouble with the screws. I think the red material on the screws is an "anti-vibration" treatment, and is not a traditional (loctite) red thread locker per se.
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Since I'm not one to detail strip & clean a revolver what would be a fair price for a gunsmith to charge for doing this. I ordered one this afternoon and from pics of others, it will need a through cleaning. I want it to fire afterwards, not sit in a box in pieces.
Like other projects I thought I'd do myself.
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I ordered mine because of a similar thread on AR15.com.
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Wow!!! They must have received a bunch in this last shipment, as they are still showing 10+ on the web site. Not that I was thinking about ordering another one. Nope. Don't need another one.
By the way, I got to worrying that I might get one with an IL, even though no one seems to have done so yet, and the picture on the web site doesn't show one. So I emailed them, and they got right back with me and said that they had not found any with locks yet.
For those of you who have already received yours, how are they marked? 640?, 640-1?, 640-2? Just curious, as none of the photos or posts have mentioned this, and the ad is for used 640. My understanding from the book is that the 640 was 38, and the 640-1 change was when they went to the 357 chambering and the J Magnum frame size.
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For those of you who have already received yours, how are they marked? 640?, 640-1?, 640-2? Just curious, as none of the photos or posts have mentioned this, and the ad is for used 640. My understanding from the book is that the 640 was 38, and the 640-1 change was when they went to the 357 chambering and the J Magnum frame size.
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Wow!!! They must have received a bunch in this last shipment, as they are still showing 10+ on the web site. Not that I was thinking about ordering another one. Nope. Don't need another one.
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Les....
Mine is marked 640-1 and has MIM internals. It dates to late 2000, or early 2001, if I'm reading the 3rd Edition Catalog correctly.
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I've been carrying a 640-1 for awhile, MIM, no IL CECxxxx.
Figured another wouldn't hurt to have around, especially at that price.
Ordered one at lunch, they had one of my FFL's listed, so I sent it there, fee is a bit higher but it's right up the street.
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For those of you who have already received yours, how are they marked? 640?, 640-1?, 640-2? Just curious, as none of the photos or posts have mentioned this, and the ad is for used 640. My understanding from the book is that the 640 was 38, and the 640-1 change was when they went to the 357 chambering and the J Magnum frame size.
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Mine was ordered early (Dec 26th), but the order was not finalized until after new years. I'm not sure if my example was pulled and set aside when I ordered it.....or if it was pulled out of the second batch on Jan 2.
Mine is (was) by far the worst example cosmetically speaking, when looking at the photos posted here. Fortunately, the SS finish cleans up quite well.
I'm going to list this one as among the top ten in the "Hall of Shame" of the worst cosmetic disasters among police carry firearms I've dealt with over the last 40+ years.
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Before pics. We need before pics. I want to see this paragon of beatupidness.
On another note. It is quite interesting putting my Model 36 next to this and seeing the difference in barrel, cylinder and frame lengths.
I found a set of the old Siles oversize combat grips on Ebay. They have two things that I really like. They are broad in the beam at the rear which helps spread the recoil over the palm. A must if I am going to shoot any .357 magnums through it. They also have just enough length to comfortably get all three fingers on them. They do not print much more than the bonded ivory grips in a t-shirt. If I wear a slightly larger shirt they do not show at all.
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I ordered mine because of a similar thread on AR15.com.
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You guys that have taken the sideplate off: Did you have to use heat on the red LocTite?
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Using proper hollow ground screwdriver bits and the proper size it took a fair bit of effort for two of the three screws. The yoke screw had been removed before and was buggered up a bit. Probably because of the Loctite, or whatever the red stuff is. It came out easy.
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I tried not to, but I also got one on the way.
Center Fire has great customer service. My FFL was not on their list so I called them and a gal named Kay looked up my FFL, called him and now it's a done deal.
I asked her to pick me out a good one, she laughed and said there aren't many left. So if your sitting on the fence, don't wait too long.
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I spoke with Kay also. She had my FFL on file but was expired and offered that she would contact them to get a current copy. She really made the transaction easy. However, I have not received any notice that the gun was shipped.
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Since I'm not one to detail strip & clean a revolver what would be a fair price for a gunsmith to charge for doing this. I ordered one this afternoon and from pics of others, it will need a through cleaning. I want it to fire afterwards, not sit in a box in pieces.
Like other projects I thought I'd do myself.
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It took me a while before I was comfortable taking out the internals for cleaning. Before I did that and something you may want to consider is-
Use the correct screw driver bits to remove the side plate screw and then remove the slide plate (there are videos on how to perform this) don't remove any internals and use a good cleaner /lubricant spray on the internals and let it soak and then using low air power blow out residue. Then oil and re-assemble. I've read posts here where others have used carb/brake cleaner to perform this task.
Others may disagree with this approach but it's worked for me in the past.
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It took me a while before I was comfortable taking out the internals for cleaning. Before I did that and something you may want to consider is-
Use the correct screw driver bits to remove the side plate screw and then remove the slide plate (there are videos on how to perform this) and use a good cleaner /lubricant spray on the internals and let it soak and then using low air power blow out residue. Then oil and re-assemble. I've read posts here where others have used carb/brake cleaner to perform this task.
Others may disagree with this approach but it's worked for me in the past.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. If the cylinder turns and the hammer hits the firing pin and the pin put's a hole in the scotch tape on the snap cap I'll be happy.
Will have to get a can of that low pressure air stuff at Ace.
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I spoke with Kay also. She had my FFL on file but was expired and offered that she would contact them to get a current copy. She really made the transaction easy. However, I have not received any notice that the gun was shipped.
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Kay sure is a great CS rep for Center Fire. I was impressed that the phone only rang twice and within 5 minutes I had a receipt of the order in my email.
No notice of it being shipped yet, but if the company is anything like Kay it should be at my FFL early this coming week.
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Does anyone know if the XS front sight and Wilson spring package and Hogue Bantams on my current 360J will fit the incoming 640-1? I may decide to CCW the 640-1 if the weight is not too oppressive. Thank you
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Finished the cleanup on mine.
Brushed finish, FO front sight.
Borrowed Altamonts from my Model 60.
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Finished the cleanup on mine.
Brushed finish, FO front sight.
Borrowed Ahrends from my Model 60.
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Oh rats! They got more in and I just bought a 10-5 so I'm broke...
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My son went over this morning and picked mine up. Apparantly they got 250 of them.
Mine had the rubber grips with the S&W logo on them. He was told 2 had the original wood grips on them.
Believe he said they came from the California Dept. of Corrections.
Need to take the side plate off and see what it looks like on the inside. Scratched up pretty bad. May have to polish it up some.
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Ordered mine last night. My FFL is not on file so I will call Kay on Monday. Let you know how it turns out.
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My son went over this morning and picked mine up. Apparantly they got 250 of them.
Mine had the rubber grips with the S&W logo on them. He was told 2 had the original wood grips on them.
Believe he said they came from the California Dept. of Corrections.
Need to take the side plate off and see what it looks like on the inside. Scratched up pretty bad. May have to polish it up some.
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Ordered one earlier today. I hope they are in decent shape like the first batch was.
Retired LTC, USAR, are you able to post a picture ? Did yours have the older style thumb latch and stamped writing or does it have the newer style thumb latch and etched writing ?
The kid I ordered from said that centerfire is rating them at good to very good and they all have the older thumb latches, but he followed that up with, he had only seen a few of them.
I hope he wasn't stretching the grade a little, but as long as it's mechanically sound it should clean up well.
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I ordered one this morning. I'm looking forward to receiving and shooting it. I only wish it was a model 649 instead of a 640.
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Mine was ordered early as well but fulfilled after the new year. I might have gotten lucky, but mine was/is both cosmetically and mechanically excellent, which surprised me, especially for getting my order in late. A light cleaning under the plate with Hoppes and CLP via toothbrush brought out just a bit of grime; a standard general cleaning and then a good wipe down and she looks almost new; even the front sight bluing is still clean and the grips aren't nicked up.
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Mine was ordered early as well but fulfilled after the new year. I might have gotten lucky, but mine was/is both cosmetically and mechanically excellent, which surprised me, especially for getting my order in late. A light cleaning under the plate with Hoppes and CLP via toothbrush brought out just a bit of grime; a standard general cleaning and then a good wipe down and she looks almost new; even the front sight bluing is still clean and the grips aren't nicked up.
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01-08-2017, 01:55 PM
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So overall, for the guy's who have received their 640's, do you feel they are worth the $353.26 we have paid for them? I'm using the CC fee total, not the 3% check discount. (I hate waiting.)
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01-08-2017, 01:55 PM
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It appears that the only way I'm getting my Model 36 back from SWMBO is to replace it with something.
Here's hoping She likes the 640. Or maybe I'll like it better then the 36.
Just ordered this morning. Man alive you guys are expensive to hang around with.
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01-08-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozark Marine
So overall, for the guy's who have received their 640's, do you feel they are worth the $353.26 we have paid for them? I'm using the CC fee total, not the 3% check discount. (I hate waiting.)
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Yes, I do. If you look at the price of many J frames on the market I think this is a great deal for a fine revolver. If it is cosmetically challenged - it's not anything that can't be remedied with a little elbow grease. The stocks are serviceable and the revolver can go to work just as it's received. IMHO
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Can anyone compare the trigger on the 640 to that of a Ruger SP 101? My wife shoots our SP 101 but it takes 2 fingers for her to pull the trigger even after I've changed the main spring. I'm really tempted by this deal on the 640, especially if it would be easier for her to shoot.
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01-08-2017, 02:37 PM
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Mine was ordered early as well but fulfilled after the new year. I might have gotten lucky, but mine was/is both cosmetically and mechanically excellent, which surprised me, especially for getting my order in late.
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Sheesh, you aced it, amigo! Here's hoping the rest of 2017 treats you just as well - wow!
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