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Old 01-06-2017, 10:20 PM
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Is it legal to put a rifle stock on a revolver?
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:24 PM
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No! That's a short barreled rifle, NFA item.
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Is it legal to put a rifle stock on a revolver?
Only on a black powder revolver or replica. A stock on a revolver turns it into a short barreled rifle. A rifle has to have a 16" barrel and be 26" overall. A shotgun must have a 18" barrel and be 26" overall.
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...Skeeter Skelton's boyhood friend Joe O'Farrell Bishop had a Stevens Pocket Rifle 22 with the detachable stock that they used to put meat on the table as kids of the Depression...NFA 1934 made it illegal...I read that recently they have been exempted as antiques...

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Thought it would be neat to get one of these one day and put a rifle stock on it.[IMG]snwcdnprod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/styles/product_main/public/firearms/images/170231_01_lg_0.jpg?itok=pBEO43eB[/IMG]

Like one of those old carbines.
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:22 AM
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Stock on this.
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If you go thru the process to get the Federal "Permit" for a SBR you can put a stock on a modern revolver. However one issue with the old Colt Revolving Rifles was that if you used the forearm you could end up with your sleeve on fire. With a modern Magnum if you were wearing a short sleeved shirt I suspect a pretty bad burn could result.

BTW, perhaps I'm mistaken but I thought the exemption for Antiques actually ONLY applied to antiques made BEFORE 1898, not replica's or more recent "antiques". If I am wrong about that I'd be interested in seeing a clarification.
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I have plans to put a shoulderstock on a K22 with a stock from a S&W tear gas gun. As long as you put a long (>16") barrel on the gun first, then you can legally add a shoulder stock. There are companies that make 'carbine' stocks and long barrels for Colt 1911's and Glocks this way. The barrel must be more than 16" and the overall length has to be more than 26". Then, it's a rifle, not a pistol or handgun. As others have stated, most centerfire rounds will spit lead or sparks through the barrel-cylinder forcing cone on a revolver and cause damage to your off hand. I have a scar on my left middle finger from the flash of shooting a .327 Mag custom K frame on a sand bag. A .22 rimfire shouldn't throw enough to be a problem. You just don't want to make the mistake of getting caught with an unregistered, illegal, short barrel rifle. That will get you 10 years and $100,000.00 fine!!!
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Stock on this.
As long as the barrel is 16" or greater and the overall length is 26" or greater, you're good to go with a shoulder stock. I suspect you'd have to tack weld the muzzle brake for it to be 16" and legal.
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If you go thru the process to get the Federal "Permit" for a SBR you can put a stock on a modern revolver. However one issue with the old Colt Revolving Rifles was that if you used the forearm you could end up with your sleeve on fire. With a modern Magnum if you were wearing a short sleeved shirt I suspect a pretty bad burn could result.

BTW, perhaps I'm mistaken but I thought the exemption for Antiques actually ONLY applied to antiques made BEFORE 1898, not replica's or more recent "antiques". If I am wrong about that I'd be interested in seeing a clarification.
...the 1898 date still applies...this is internet info...so it needs to be independently verified by anyone interested...

SECTION IIIA: Weapons Removed From The NFA As Collector's
Items And Removed From the GCA As Antiques.

The following firearms were removed from the NFA as collector's items and classified as curios or relics under 18 U.S.C.
Chapter 44. However, because they are antiques as defined in Chapter 44, they should not have been classified as curios
or relics. Because they are no longer NFA weapons and are antiques under Chapter 44, they are not subject to GCA
provisions.

Any pistol or revolver, mfd. in or before 1898, originally designed to accept a shoulder stock, and accompanied
by an original shoulder stock.

Stevens, Old model Pocket Rifle, .22 short or long rimfire.
Stevens, Reliable Pocket Rifle, first issue, cal. .22 short, long or long rifle.
Stevens, New Model Pocket Rifle, first issue, in cal. .32 short or long rimfire.
Stevens, New Model Pocket Rifle, 2nd issue, in cals. .25 Stevens or .32 long rimfire.
Stevens, New Model Pocket Rifle No. 40, in cal. .25 Stevens or .32 long rimfire.
Stevens, New Model Pocket shotgun, in cal. .44-50 Everlasting.
Stevens, Vernier, New Model Pocket Rifle, cal. .22 short, .22 long rifle, .22 WRF, .32 long rimfire.
Stevens, Vernier, New Model Pocket Rifle, No. 40 1/2, in cal. .25 Stevens or .32 long rimfire.
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...Skeeter Skelton's boyhood friend Joe O'Farrell Bishop had a Stevens Pocket Rifle 22 with the detachable stock that they used to put meat on the table as kids of the Depression...NFA 1934 made it illegal...I read that recently they have been exempted as antiques...

Yep. I have a couple of those. They were deemed C&R, and thus, NFA exempt due to manufacture date and collectability.
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Lucas McCain did it.

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I have plans to put a shoulderstock on a K22 with a stock from a S&W tear gas gun. As long as you put a long (>16") barrel on the gun first, then you can legally add a shoulder stock. There are companies that make 'carbine' stocks and long barrels for Colt 1911's and Glocks this way. The barrel must be more than 16" and the overall length has to be more than 26". Then, it's a rifle, not a pistol or handgun. As others have stated, most centerfire rounds will spit lead or sparks through the barrel-cylinder forcing cone on a revolver and cause damage to your off hand. I have a scar on my left middle finger from the flash of shooting a .327 Mag custom K frame on a sand bag. A .22 rimfire shouldn't throw enough to be a problem. You just don't want to make the mistake of getting caught with an unregistered, illegal, short barrel rifle. That will get you 10 years and $100,000.00 fine!!!
Will any of those companies make a 16" barrel for an S&W revolver? I would love to see an 8-shot .357 magnum N-frame made into a carbine.
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The Swiss did it with this SIG revolver/holster combo. Ingenious.


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Sure its legal as long as you put a 16"+ barrel on it at the same time. and its a lot of work. This one shoots both 45 colt + acp.



I have never set my shirt on fire, but I do wear a heavy shirt while firing it. I also notice a little bit of blast on my face as it is positioned much closer to cylinder than with a normally held revolver. Safety glasses only folks

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Will any of those companies make a 16" barrel for an S&W revolver? I would love to see an 8-shot .357 magnum N-frame made into a carbine.

Model 58, 44-40, 19" octagon barrel.

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I would get one of these instead..

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Sure its legal as long as you put a 16"+ barrel on it at the same time. and its a lot of work. This one shoots both 45 colt + acp.



I have never set my shirt on fire, but I do wear a heavy shirt while firing it. I also notice a little bit of blast on my face as it is positioned much closer to cylinder than with a normally held revolver. Safety glasses only folks
Looks awesome, what's the cost of the mod?
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U uhhLess than $100 for a 452 barrel blank from Green Mountain, $40 for some walnut and maple at lumber yard. $300 for 1917 with a junk barrel. A spare model 28 cylinder. $60 for a rear sight Assy. A whole bunch of time in my shop. I used a short cylinder in this because did want it to be able to fire my longer warmed up 45 colt loads with the 1917 frame. If you had to pay someone to built one it would get pretty spendy I think. Turn and fit barrel. Fit ejector lug. Lugs for forearm. Modify frame. Make forearm and stock and butt plate. Etc etc

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IMHO, trying to turn a revolver into a rifle is silly.

Real rifles are available for less money and allow you to use your off hand without risk of burning from the cilinder - barrel gap.

Having an older pistol with original butt stock is interesting.

Trying to convert a modern revolver into a legal firearm is dumb.
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But, fun and interesting. Dumb is being completely close minded. I don't like semi autos for hunting, I don't like trying to make my way through a tangled up brush pile looking for a whitetail with one in chamber and safety off. I do like a interesting challenge in my shop. Your dumb, but, my gun, money, time and choice. Had several nice offers for it btw. Lots of dumb guns out there made by manufacturers. The Governor type guns are dumb to me, but hey some guys love them. Hey great.

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Hey as long as it's legal, doesn't blow up. and is fun, I say go for it.
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Kinda harsh calling it dumb. Just always wondered what it would be like to have one.
Thanks for the input!
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although not real practical a carbine revolver is very "cool" imo!! having a very tight gap at the forcing cone could minimize the escaping gasses. 357's are versatile for sure + a henry lever action makes more sense!!
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