What +p ammo do you run through the sd9ve?

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I guess I was wrong.

Surprising information From the Buffalo Bore web site:

BLACK BEARS

➤ Black bears are very different mentally, than grizzly bears. Black bears come in red, brown, blonde, and black color phases, but they are all black bear species and should be considered “black bears” regardless of color phase. While black bears have much the same physical qualities (normally smaller) of grizzly bears, they GENERALLY have a much different mindset.

➤ To stop black bears, all you have to do is hurt them; you do not need to kill them. Almost any center fire handgun cartridge will dissuade a black bear if you hit them well with it. The more powerful the cartridge, the more damage you’ll potentially do to the bear, but nearly any black bear will turn tail if he is hit with a cartridge such as good stiff 9mm loads. I know this argues against prevailing wisdom, but prevailing wisdom is based mostly on speculation, not real world experience and is not really wisdom.

We make “Bear Loads” in Smaller Chamberings such as the following:
★ (Item 24F) -- 9MM +P+ PENETRATOR
★ (Item 24L) -- 9MM +P OUTDOORSMAN
★ (Item 20H) -- 38 SPL +P OUTDOORSMAN
★ (Item 19A) -- HEAVY 357 MAG OUTDOORSMAN
★ (Item 23F) -- 40 S&W OUTDOORTSMAN Std Pressure Low Flash
★ (Item 21C) -- HEAVY 10MM OUTDOORSMAN

We do this because a lot of people own those guns and don’t want to buy a 454 Casull or 44 mag. I would have no problem defending myself against a black bear attack (and have done so) with the proper 9MM ammo. I prefer a more powerful/bigger cartridge, but the 9MM will get it done, even on grizzlies, if you take their brain with a flat nosed, non-expanding bullet. Of course, making a brain shot under such duress, will take practice and cool nerves.

More info below:

"Stopping" bears with handgun or rifle cartridges

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...uct_list&c=108

Thanks TAC!
I will get some of that Buffalo Bore 38+P.
I have several carry guns besides the now totally humiliated 642 that I will use it in.

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Better choices, but anything short of bear and mountain lion you'll be fine. When I backpack, I bring a m60 loaded with Buffalo Bore +P hard cast. Better than nothing.

My woods gun is at least a 10mm with 200gr hardcast. Current woods gun is a Glock 40. With the 6in barrel, it's not the smallest, but it'll do what i need.

Yep the drive out to your hunting/camping spot is far more dangerous.

I think for most of us the prospect of being mauled and possibly eaten by a predator is way more terrifying than being hit by lightening or in a car accident.

Plus you can't shoot the lightening.

You can shoot the driver who hits you, but I think the law might frown on that.

Yep.
I think we can all agree that in most cases a black bear is extremely unlikely to pose a threat.
In that unlikely scenario however I still want to have enough gun.
The Buffalo Bore hard cast looks good but I'd be concerned about losing velocity out of that 1 7/8" barrel and difficulty in making rapid follow up shots with such a light gun.

I'd feel much more confident with a 4" K-Frame, but I understand not everyone wants to carry something that heavy.

I once worked with a guy that always carried a .38 Spec. and made fun of me for carrying a .357. One day he walked up on a bear and he told me that was the biggest bear and the smallest pistol he had ever seen. The bear turned and run but the guy bought a .357 when he got back. Larry

I often have either a 340M&P with .38 +Ps or a 940 (9mm) revolver as a woods gun. Usually whilst out squirrel hunting or hiking. Black bears could be an issue, but more concerned about rabid critters, four or two legged. In all likelihood the .22 squirrel gun will do the job, but never hurts to have backup!

We hardly ever have bear attacks here in NM-
But sometimes we do -

Bear attacks woman running marathon in New Mexico

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I worry about 2-legged predators much more. I don't rely on 911 in the comfort of my home and sure wouldn't out in the boonies.

A .44 magnum should handle any vermin regardless of how many legs it has.

That's the lower 48.

Facing off with an Alaskan brown bear or polar bear, the only handgun I'd be comfortable carrying is the one that's backup to my .458 rifle.

One suggestion not yet mentioned is to buy a cheap police trade-in .40 and swap in a .357 Sig barrel. The Sig round, while only 9 mm., has a lot more oomph, and with the proper construction, would provide good penetration.