Model 437

nossew · #1 06-25-2015, 07:18 PM

Saw one for sale today for $375. I kind of like the 2 tone, I guess the barrel and cylinder are stainless?
Is the price reasonable?

yeah I know the lock...

kaaskop49 · #2 06-25-2015, 10:54 PM

I see no mention of a 437 in SCSW. I checked my 2010 catalog and see a 438 and 442, so I have some vague idea of what you saw. Can you please be more specific? Thanks.

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Kernel Crittenden · #3 06-25-2015, 10:58 PM

If there is in fact a Model 437 I'd like to learn more about it. Never seen or heard of one before.

nossew · #4 06-25-2015, 11:00 PM

Looks like this:

bluelund79 · #5 06-25-2015, 11:02 PM

Now that's fancy! Found the replacement for the LCR in my carry rotation. Thanks for sharing, and time to find one in my neck of the woods

kaaskop49 · #6 06-25-2015, 11:19 PM

Thanks for the photo. It seems at first glance o be a blued/blackened frame version of the 637, similar to the 438 and 442 I mentioned above. Is the cylinder stainless and is it new or used? If new, $375 is a good price IMO. Used, all depends on condition. Last question, does the 437 monicker appear on the crane cutout on the frame?

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nossew · #7 06-26-2015, 05:47 AM

Yes, the frame is stamped "437". It looks like a 637 with a 442 frame but, without the "Airweight" writing on the side.
Not really a 442 since it has a hammer.

Kernel Crittenden · #8 06-26-2015, 01:11 PM

Were you able to see the serial number?

If it comes with the box, would really like to know the sku/product code, and feature codes (if any). A picture of the end label would do it all.

Other than the NRA magazine, I don't read gun mags much anymore, so I could of missed it. But in the past when S&W came out with an entirely new model there would be some kind of media effort. Even if it's was just a tiny blurb on page 27.

This one.... nothing.

BullettoothWes · #9 07-28-2015, 09:41 PM

I have a model 437. If any of you guys have any confirmed information about it it would be greatly appreciated. I bought it about 4 years ago. It's been carried and mainly a safe queen tho. It's a very accurate lil snubby. I'd an armslist listing that said that the cylinder and barrel are titanium but I cannot confirm that. My 1st post here so thanks in advance guys

BullettoothWes · #10 07-28-2015, 09:46 PM

Here is a pic of mine

Kernel Crittenden · #11 07-28-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BullettoothWes

I have a model 437. .... I bought it about 4 years ago.

Did you get the box?

BullettoothWes · #12 07-28-2015, 10:04 PM

Yes. I'll go get it and post a pic of the sku#

BullettoothWes · #13 07-28-2015, 10:21 PM

Here is the pic of the sku#

Kernel Crittenden · #14 07-29-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BullettoothWes

Here is the pic of the sku#

Thanks. That's the key that unlocks the door. These guns were for the distributor Ellett Brothers, LLC, in Chapin, South Carolina. Sku (product code) 150674. A sku that begins with "15" is almost always a limited run for one particular distributor, and not something for national distribution. I think they were originally offered in the 2008 - 2009 time frame.

If I had to guess I'd say fewer than 1,000 were made. If there were more, we would be seeing them more often.

They are especially interesting to me because they are what aficionados call "Pintos". Blue/silver contrasting frame, barrel, and cylinder. Doubly cool. Aluminum alloy "Airweight" frame, stainless steel barrel and cylinder. Some guys specialize in collecting Pinto guns. Pinto guns are a tradition that goes way, way, back in S&W (and Colt) history. Of course, back in the day the silver was nickel.

Here's a link to the Ellett Bros catalog....

Ellett Brothers Digital Catalog - Page 68

BullettoothWes · #15 07-29-2015, 07:12 AM

Thank you so much Kernel! It's good to know something about it. Like I said earlier, I've found no confirmed information about it. There was one listing in FL saying it was a titanium barrel and cylinder. It's a great lil shooter and even more satisfying to know there are very few of them even know its not that valuable if a piece. I would like to know exactly how many of them were produced. I've considered calling S&W but looks like they want $ for any info. Typical corporate response there... Anyway, I really appreciate your time and help Kernel and even more so I appreciate your service.

Shorty 45 MK2 · #16 07-29-2015, 07:56 AM

Great another one to add to the list.

Thanks for posting photos of the fine little snub and of the sku# BullettoothWes.

Thanks for the info about Ellett Brothers, LLC Kernel Crittenden.

Kernel Crittenden · #17 07-29-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BullettoothWes

I would like to know exactly how many of them were produced.

Someone a Ellett Bros should be able to tell you. If you could get to the right person. The Lead Buyer for handguns. Purchasing Manager. Someone like that. The gun was an exclusive for them.

BullettoothWes · #18 08-14-2015, 08:03 AM

So I contacted Ellett Bros...
The lady I spoke to was not very nice at all. Rather rude about it. She said she couldn't give any information about a particular serial numbered gun except to the dealer that bought it and blah blah blah. I told her I didn't want that. I wanted general information about that model. But she wasn't listening.... Anyways I've got a friend that just opened a gun shop. I'm going to see if he can get a lil info about it

kaaskop49 · #19 08-14-2015, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullettoothWes

So I contacted Ellett Bros...
The lady I spoke to was not very nice at all. Rather rude about it. She said she couldn't give any information about a particular serial numbered gun except to the dealer that bought it and blah blah blah. I told her I didn't want that. I wanted general information about that model. But she wasn't listening.... Anyways I've got a friend that just opened a gun shop. I'm going to see if he can get a lil info about it

THAT'S the right way to deal with a customer, isn't it? Maybe the person on your end of the phone wanted to place an order for 50 handguns... Oh well, you've got a nice gun. Don't lose too much sleep over it.

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Shield #5103

bobf · #20 09-02-2015, 10:25 PM

Just got an e-mail ad from S&W which lists the 437 among others at various locations starting Fri Sept 4. I wish one of the locations was near me I'd buy one.

List of events:
Hometown Game Day Blitz - Smith & Wesson

Bud's has a 437 listed but the picture looks like a 438, suspect a misprint.

BaldEagle1313 · #21 09-02-2015, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bobf

Just got an e-mail ad from S&W which lists the 437 among others at various locations starting Fri Sept 4. I wish one of the locations was near me I'd buy one.

List of events:
Hometown Game Day Blitz - Smith & Wesson

Bud's has a 437 listed but the picture looks like a 438, suspect a misprint.

Bob, thanks for the link. There's an event just a dozen miles down the road from me, and I don't have to work that Saturday.

bobf · #22 09-02-2015, 10:47 PM

You're welcome I wouldn't mind a much longer drive but no luck.

cl998 · #23 09-06-2015, 04:56 PM

I have been looking for the same information. In the email it is not a 2-tone like the ones mentioned above. You would think S&W would have some information on it since they just emailed everyone about it and it is an "exclusive".

JcMack · #24 09-21-2015, 05:38 PM

I saw a new 637 today. It was all matt blue. The gun in the Buds ad in post 20 is what I handled. It was sitting next to a new 438. Both with locks and the new style rubber "banana" grip. Both were $449. Seemed about $50 high. I'm on the fence about them. I am taking a 24 hr. cooling off period before I decide yes or no and which one if it's yes.

GerSan69 · #25 09-22-2015, 04:31 AM

$449? The local shop participating in the Hometown Game Day Blitz is advertising them (for the event) at $375.

JcMack · #26 09-22-2015, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GerSan69

$449? The local shop participating in the Hometown Game Day Blitz is advertising them (for the event) at $375.

Yeah I figured that. Name of the place is "Gougem and How guns, and septic systems"

I don't need a new gun as much as a new washing machine. So I'm gonna pass. It truly pisses me of the way 3 local gun emporiums are over pricing stuff. I can go across the state line to Illinois and buy a current production Smith for $50 less. But the difference in sales tax plus FFL charges screw the deal.

Bill ch · #27 11-15-2015, 04:17 PM

I have a model 437 ALL BLACK.

From what I understand most of the 437s were two-tone with the frame black and the cylinder and barrel being a steel color.

As far as I can tell, mine is like a 430 except mine has an exposed hammer and is marked on the left side of the barrel, "Smith & Wesson .38 S&W SPL +P"

I got it from a private party and was going to use it a a carry gun and have the hammer bobbed.

Now that I know what it is, I am not sure what I am going to do with it.

I am going to call S&W next week and have the serial number run and see if they have any additional info. One guy told me that there were only 500 437s made.

Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel Crittenden

If there is in fact a Model 437 I'd like to learn more about it. Never seen or heard of one before.

Bill ch · #28 11-15-2015, 04:31 PM

The SKU number on my box is 10274.

The model number is 437-2

Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel Crittenden

Thanks. That's the key that unlocks the door. These guns were for the distributor Ellett Brothers, LLC, in Chapin, South Carolina. Sku (product code) 150674. A sku that begins with "15" is almost always a limited run for one particular distributor, and not something for national distribution. I think they were originally offered in the 2008 - 2009 time frame.

If I had to guess I'd say fewer than 1,000 were made. If there were more, we would be seeing them more often.

They are especially interesting to me because they are what aficionados call "Pintos". Blue/silver contrasting frame, barrel, and cylinder. Doubly cool. Aluminum alloy "Airweight" frame, stainless steel barrel and cylinder. Some guys specialize in collecting Pinto guns. Pinto guns are a tradition that goes way, way, back in S&W (and Colt) history. Of course, back in the day the silver was nickel.

Here's a link to the Ellett Bros catalog....

Ellett Brothers Digital Catalog - Page 68

Kernel Crittenden · #29 11-15-2015, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill ch

The SKU number on my box is 10274. The model number is 437-2

Are you sure, Bill? SKU numbers are typically six-digit. They use to be termed "product codes".

Bill ch · #30 11-16-2015, 05:54 PM

Hi Kennel,

I have double checked the label on the end of the box which is very clear. It says SKU and then under that is 10274.

JohnK · #31 11-16-2015, 09:21 PM

Well, I at least discovered that "Elliot" bros, is spelled "Ellett"

Duh.

onebilly43 · #32 01-09-2016, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill ch

Hi Kennel,

I have double checked the label on the end of the box which is very clear. It says SKU and then under that is 10274.

I purchased a S&W 437-2 airweight yesterday the revolver is all black
with the combat grips and is marked 38 S&W SPL +p on the left side of the barrel
The serial # is CYL51xx and the SKU # is 10274 I would also like to know more about this model there seems to be little information on the net

kaaskop49 · #33 01-09-2016, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel Crittenden

Are you sure, Bill? SKU numbers are typically six-digit. They use to be termed "product codes".

Hi Kernel, you asked me this ? on a more recent thread when I mentioned the new 442 Pinto with its 5-digit SKU. Perhaps this style of SKU designates PC mfg, which the 442 Pinto is?

Kaaskop49
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Kernel Crittenden · #34 01-09-2016, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaaskop49

Hi Kernel, you asked me this ? on a more recent thread when I mentioned the new 442 Pinto with its 5-digit SKU. Perhaps this style of SKU designates PC mfg,....

Yep. I remember that. Is the 5-digit sku an one off aberration or a new thing? Looks like the later.

Perhaps they were running short of possible 6-digit Performance Center product codes. The way the PC uses pc's, with "170" being the first three digits, meant they could only have a maximum of (1,000) 6-digit product codes.

If they kept to their established naming convention, in all it years, has there been (1,000) distinct PC guns? Maybe, if you consider the possibility some were reserved for "marketing study" guns that were never made and existed only on paper.

pride5167 · #35 12-05-2016, 01:55 AM

Here's my new toy. I'm still on the "waiting period", can't wait to go to the range and shoot some rounds. I believe there is an owners manual in the box. As soon as I can I'll post it here.

pride5167 · #36 12-07-2016, 02:42 PM

Here's more information about my 437-2:

Model 437-4cd16c74-f4a8-4cbf-ad5c-820a1063130f-jpg

ky wonder · #37 01-08-2017, 06:55 PM

I traded for one of these pintos, as new in box, mine is a model 437 no dash, it is the black air weight frame with stainless cylinder, barrel, screws and pins, my box label shows model 437, 38sp, sku is 150674
serial number cmw89xx,brass case with gun shows a date of 9/2009

my gun is almost like the other photos of the pinto guns in this thread, with the exception of the fact that the rubber grips are Altamont Falconia boot grips with a white pearl insert in them with the two tone texture rubber, with he intertwined S&W logo high on the shoulder toward the hammer

I don't know if they were an add on after the initial purchase but it caught my eye

ky wonder · #38 01-09-2017, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kernel Crittenden

Are you sure, Bill? SKU numbers are typically six-digit. They use to be termed "product codes".

there a gb listing out there now with that same 10274 sku. its an all black gun and it names in the description that it is from another wholesaler run

will smith and Wesson run the same gun as special products for different vendors?