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What are the largest aftermarket grips available for J Frames? Particularly for a 637.

I'm looking at Pachmayer Compac, Gripper and Diamond Pro, and at Hogue Monogrips in rubber and synthetic, and I can't tell online what the specific measurements are.

Also, are the various banana grips longer than others, and therefore better for large hands?

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My J-frame solution was the Delta Ergo Grips. Nothing else allowed my big mitts purchase on these wee shooters.
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If you want big grips, of the ones you mention the Pachmayr Grippers would take the prize for height, depth and width - they are nearly as tall as the 637 is long.
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I prefer the Pachmayr compac grip.
I did have to trim it a bit to work with a speedloader.


Works with my big hands:
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I have the diamond pro on my 340pd.They are very comfortable and provide a full grip for the power loads.
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I have the Diamond Pro grips on both of my 642's. I like them a lot. Makes shooting the little revolvers more fun for sure.

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I swapped for a nickel-plated S&W Model 37 (no dash) that was equipped with Art Jewel Enterprises finger groove grips (initialed by Harban Singh). They covered the front and backstraps and extended well below the grip frame. They would be wonderful for large hands. Unfortunately, I don't have either the Model 37 or the grips any longer.
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I throw in with Snubbyfan. I don't have particularly meaty hands but mine are very long and I have always preferred the Pachmayr Compac on round-butt J-frames, if a rubber grip is to be used.

You might also look at the Hogue Tamer model. Both of these grios, though of fairly different styles, feel good in my hand. I don't have a lot of experience with the Tamer just now, but it looks promising - if it's unusual attachment mechanism works over the long haul. Testing it now.

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I just put the Hogue Monogrips on my 60-15 3" pro and am very happy with how they fit my large hands. All my fingers fit the grip now. The monogrips extend farther past the bottom of the revolver than the factory grips it came with. There is also no problem with speedloaders.
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Something like this maybe?

It's a currently un-used extra, that was supplied w/ my M640-1. Got a few extra pics, if interested.
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Here are a couple comparison shots that may help a wee bit.

The first image shows (from right to left) the original rubber grip on my M&P 340 -- might be the same one that came on your 637. Next is an Altamont rosewood combat. And finally the Karl Nill Centennial model -- it's the biggest set of stocks I've seen for a J-frame. I carry my 640 Pro with these stocks everyday and everywhere, and it's a pleasure to shoot -- feels like a K-frame. This model won't fit on your 637 because it won't allow the hammer to go all the way back, but Nill makes a similar stock for J-frames with exposed hammers (same girth, just not as tall).

The second shot -- if you want to stick with rubber -- shows two Hogues. On the right is the Monogrip on a 360PD (same dimensions as your 637), and on the left is the Centennial Tamer, which, again, won't work on a revolver with an exposed hammer.

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Thank you guys, that was very helpful.
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Oops! - Sorry! Two bit cowboy is right. The Tamer is just for Centennials and Bodyguards. Forgot about that. The Compac will work fine on a 637.
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Are you looking for a grip that fills your hand better or one that allows you to have your pinkie on the stock? Or both? I have a set of boot grips that Altamont makes in Super Rosewood on my 637 that fills my large hand nicely. They also make affordable wood stocks in other styles.

As for rubber, when I was learning how to shoot the 637 I put a set of Hogue Monogrips on it that worked great! I did have to give up pocket carry though.
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I put the Diamond Pro on my Model 60 3". It allows me to get all 3 fingers on the grip. Also the grip has a palm swell which helps it feel good in my hands. No sure how good they would be for really big hands.
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I'm a little confused here. Why would you get a small, easily concealable gun, then make it hard to conceal with a pair of big grips? I have medium-large hands and like a handful of grip with larger guns, but with the little I- and J-frame sizes I adjust to a two finger grip and let my pinky have the day off. In Bullseye we were taught to grip with the middle and ring finger and to leave the pinky soft anyway, so this works fine with small revolvers for me at least, but as with all things, YMMV!

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I'm not sure a 3" barrel gun is considered concealable. It's an easy carry gun, though. If I want to conceal, I would carry my snub gun. I use my 3" model 60 for when I'm out hiking or with the dog out in the field. I love it for that. JMO
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I'm a little confused here. Why would you get a small, easily concealable gun, then make it hard to conceal with a pair of big grips? I have medium-large hands and like a handful of grip with larger guns, but with the little I- and J-frame sizes I adjust to a two finger grip and let my pinky have the day off. In Bullseye we were taught to grip with the middle and ring finger and to leave the pinky soft anyway, so this works fine with small revolvers for me at least, but as with all things, YMMV!

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Good question.

I have several carry firearms, including some which conceal very easily. I happen to have an inexplicable affection for small snub nose 38's. So much so that, in addition to concealed carry, I also enjoy taking them to the range and shooting them at both paper and reactionary targets, at a variety of ranges. When you get an accurate snubby, they can be great fun at ranges longer than belly range.

I also want to practice a lot with my EDC gun and to feel confident in my familiarity with it, and my skill with it. That confidence means more to me than arguments over caliber, barrel length, capacity, etc. I gain that confidence by shooting it . . . a lot . . . and frequently.

I want a grip that allows my pinky on the grip, even though that is not necessary, and one that fills my hand, and just feels good. It was years ago, so I don't know why, but I had J frames before and had no problem with factory grips, but this revolver cuts my thumb on the cylinder latch no matter how I try to vary my grip. Maybe my hands got fat with old age.

When I replace the grip I am willing to give up some concealability and will dress accordingly when I carry it. My goal is to end up with a snubby revolver that I enjoy shooting frequently. I have a Colt Detective Special and a Ruger LCR that meet that description but I want a Smith & Wesson J Frame.

Thanks to all that commented. The comments have been a big help, though I am still undecided.
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Why would you get a small, easily concealable gun, then make it hard to conceal with a pair of big grips? .... YMMV!
In the end you acknowledge, “Everyone is different.” Due to that I don’t understand the basis for your question.

Many on this forum talk about concealing N-frame guns. When I go into the woods I have a 4” X-frame I toss in my Simply Rugged Sourdough at the cross-draw position. Wearing my usual, day-to-day togs you’d never know it was there, but I don’t carry it to the grocery store.

The reason I carry a 640 Pro with “big grips,” which I have no problem concealing, relates exactly to why I carry to begin with. If I encounter a bad situation I want to have a chance to defend myself. At 6’4” I’m not ready for the NBA, but my arms and hands are in proportion to my height. I can reach that box of shredded wheat on the top shelf for that sweet little old lady (no offence intended – I’m nearly her age), but sometimes long limbs and large extremities aren’t necessarily an asset, especially as I’ve been hesitant to finally admit with age comes a decreased dexterity. I’ve tried as hard as I can to practice “presenting” factory equipped round butt and square butt I and J-frames from my Lobo Enhanced Pancake at 4 o’clock, and the stocks are so small I simply can’t gain purchase for a smooth presentation. With my Nill stocks (bigger than some K-frames) the whole process is smooth as a fresh-frozen pond on a calm day, and isn’t that the point?

Could I potentially train myself to grab that baby chief and present it as effectively? Maybe, and don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be as proficient with the baby as I am with the 640, but it comes down to one thing: my 640 with those huge stocks works for me. I dare say the flow is nearly as fast and flawless as a ballet. With the smaller stocked revolvers my presentation initially looks like the proper ladies at afternoon tea: thumb and forefinger grab the butt, extract it from the leather, but then the scene comes straight out of a Laurel and Hardy skit, where it’s like I’ve grabbed a hot potato and I’m fumbling it around in an attempt to get it seated in my palm and get my forefinger into position. It’s an ugly thing, and all because I can’t “get a grip” from the git go. The bg would surely win.

There is no one-size-fits-all. There are hundreds of choices (revolvers, stocks, holsters (leather, nylon, or solid), ammo, and most importantly, opinions). If one were “best” or “right” everyone would have the same setup.

Hope, in some small way, I’ve answered your question.

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That's why I went with the Shooting Stars on my 640.
It just handles more easily and securely.

A nice compromise.
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Here are a couple comparison shots that may help a wee bit.

The first image shows (from right to left) the original rubber grip on my M&P 340 -- might be the same one that came on your 637. Next is an Altamont rosewood combat. And finally the Karl Nill Centennial model -- it's the biggest set of stocks I've seen for a J-frame. I carry my 640 Pro with these stocks everyday and everywhere, and it's a pleasure to shoot -- feels like a K-frame...

The second shot -- if you want to stick with rubber -- shows two Hogues. On the right is the Monogrip on a 360PD (same dimensions as your 637), and on the left is the Centennial Tamer...

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Got to admit a personal preference for minimalist grips (my M340 wears a Bantam), on a hideout J frame. That said, the Nills on your 340 are REALLY NICE!

Any thoughts on a comparison between the Nill grips shown, & the Hogue Centennial Tamer?

Both would seem best suited for OWB holster carry.

My early M640-1 wears the Tamers (great ergonomics), & gets carried in an Andrews Saddle Style (pancake). Real nice, comfortable carry piece of leather, BTW.
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Look into the Hogue Monogrip. Makes my 'j' frame as grippable as a 'K' frame. It has the extra thickness behind the strap. I don't know if they are the biggest, but I know I like it. Makes the gun a heck of a lot more comfortable to shoot, too.

It's too bad they don't make one for square butts. I've got some pachmayrs coming for that one.
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I had a 36, and liked S&W smooth banana targets (round butt) It felt great, and looked cool! Bob
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Any thoughts on a comparison between the Nill grips shown, & the Hogue Centennial Tamer?
The Nill, hands down.

While I like the Nill far better for shooting I appreciate the Hogue Tamer on the range, but with a vest or jacket the Hogue is a bit clingy for concealed carry. Although the Nill stocks are checkered, they don't cling to or grip outer garments.

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I have Pachmayr Grippers for both J and K frames. They are the cushiest grips I own and definitely deserve the label "full size." When I want to do a LOT of shooting with a J frame, it's what I put on.

It's also what I put on the time I decided to try a single 357 Magnum round out of a J frame, just to see what it would be like. (It still hurt.) I wish they made 'em for the Ruger LCR, as I discovered yesterday that almost all of the 327 Federal Magnum rounds with any real punch run from uncomfortable to painful to shoot in that very light little gun. I was doing chronograph testing of a lot of different factory rounds looking for a balance between power and tolerable-to-shoot, and a bigger, softer grip sure would have been nice.
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Maybe you could Fitz the trigger guard.
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