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Me and my friend were looking at getting new guns and came across a shop selling a 4" inch model 66-1 that I was drawn to and a 4" inch colt king cobra my friend has taking a liken to. Now I know the main differences between but just would like to hear people opinion on them and my friend was saying the colt would be the best choice over all any day what do others have to say?
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I'd snag up that model 66. While the finish on a colt snake is typically pretty good, I haven't pulled a trigger on a colt that could match a smith.

Additionally, I have been noticing a drop in snake prices as colt is now producing their detective line again. The colt bubble has been given notice. You heard it here first.
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To shoot/carry I'd take the 66. How are they priced?
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I've sold every Colt snake revolver I have ever purchased. The only S&W revolvers I've ever sold were to good friends, who begged me...
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To shoot/carry I'd take the 66. How are they priced?

SMith-$750

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Smith! But, I really like the model 66!
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To me, it would have to be a fairly pristine 4" 66-1 at $750, depends a lot on your local market.

The King Cobra is a size larger than a K frame, more like an L frame or a little larger. I am not up on Colt values but I would not be at all surprised if this is the going rate for one.
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I agree with the trigger on a smith being much smoother, the colts I have fired all felt mechanical, if that makes sense, and a heavier pull. Plus with the price difference you could pick up another. win win
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I much prefer the lockwork on the S&W's to the Colts. The S&W certainly seems to hold up better.
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I have owned both ...and just for the insane,not worth it price for what you get with the Colt..go with the model 66-1.They were after all selling new for the same price.
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I remember when the King Cobras, Anacondas, etc. were introduced and nobody wanted one! Folk kept saying how they didn't like all the cast parts in the new design Colt revolvers and how quality had slipped....
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I have both, and I'm fond of both brands. In this case, the Smith is the hands down winner. My K.C. cost a lot less than my 66-1 because of when I bought them, so my preference? The Colt if you're going to shoot a LOT of full power magnums. For normal shooting (85% 38 Specials and maybe 15% magnums), again the Smith is the hands down winner. Those prices are about at market right now, but the Colt just isn't worth that much more money on merit.
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This one's a no brainer. Smith
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:03 AM
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I'd try to get the Smith down to about $550-600, unless it's like new condition.
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I remember when the King Cobras, Anacondas, etc. were introduced and nobody wanted one! Folk kept saying how they didn't like all the cast parts in the new design Colt revolvers and how quality had slipped....
^^^^what he said! Seems like that $1400+ is more of a collector's price than a shooter's price, IMHO.

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I let my King Cobra go at a gun show a couple of years ago. It went really fast for $1000. I also have a model 19-3 which I like better. The King Cobra is probably stronger than the 19, but it weighs a lot more too.
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I'd snag up that model 66. While the finish on a colt snake is typically pretty good, I haven't pulled a trigger on a colt that could match a smith.

Additionally, I have been noticing a drop in snake prices as colt is now producing their detective line again. The colt bubble has been given notice. You heard it here first.
I think everybody is ready for colt to announce their gonna make the Python again
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Most of my snake guns are gone; traded for S&Ws or other must haves. Still have a couple King Cobras waiting for the right trade opportunity. No doubt in my mind given the price difference, if buying today it would be the 66-1. Have never regretted buying the Colts over the years though as the appreciation on some of them has provided for quite a few S&Ws. Well, maybe some regrets. . . .sold some of the Colts way too soon. Good luck.

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I think everybody is ready for colt to announce their gonna make the Python again
A). I don't foresee that happening but,
B). If it does happen, the quality will never compare to the original product.

Back to the OP's question, for the price difference, buy two of the Smiths.
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I just wanna let everyone thank you! Especially when that gut feeling I had about the smiths was right. But I can't hate on a colt they are beautiful my dream gun to add to the collection as stated before colt Python but that's my wallets worst nightmare as well. But I feel like my model 19 could do the same job as a Python even though it is a snubbie
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I have 2 Pythons and my wife took my 2.5" 66-2 for her gun. While I love my Pythons, Colt has stopped servicing them. I don't know if that is true for the King Cobra but it would not surprise me. There is nothing wrong with a 66 as long as the proper ammo is used. There are stories of the forcing cones cracking on the blue K-frame 357 Magnums, but I have not heard of any stainless steel ones cracking. Just use heavy weight (145 gr. - 158 gr.) magnum ammo or any .38 Special load in it and it should last a lifetime. BTW my personal carry gun is either a 4" S&W 686-1, 3" S&W 65-3, or a Beretta 92F.
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I would take the 66, and I am sure most on here realize I am a Colt guy.

Reasons for the 66?

It has the old S&W action, and although not my favorite, I prefer it to the KC's action with sintered/cast parts and coil springs.

The price, being the 66 is better gun for the money. $1456 for a regular King Cobra is over-priced for me. Regular STS ones have really dropped. Factory bright is now rare due to aftermarket scheming. If a genuine BSTS KC in package, then over $2K. People buy fake ones from L.A.A. on GB all the time with prices approaching $2700 sometimes. I have trouble selling a legit one for significantly less. So go figure on prices.

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I traded my Python for a Colt Gold Cup in the late '70's and never regretted it.

The larger Cobra never struck me as particularly desireable: too big to carry.

I'm not a fan of the stainless Smiths, so I'd pass on both these revolvers.

Now a nice 19 or 27 or even a 28 would get my attention.

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I have 2 Pythons and my wife took my 2.5" 66-2 for her gun. While I love my Pythons, Colt has stopped servicing them. I don't know if that is true for the King Cobra but it would not surprise me. There is nothing wrong with a 66 as long as the proper ammo is used. There are stories of the forcing cones cracking on the blue K-frame 357 Magnums, but I have not heard of any stainless steel ones cracking. Just use heavy weight (145 gr. - 158 gr.) magnum ammo or any .38 Special load in it and it should last a lifetime. BTW my personal carry gun is either a 4" S&W 686-1, 3" S&W 65-3, or a Beretta 92F.
Couldn't one argue that if you have to worry about ammo then it's too much of hassle to get. but I say there's just something about the 19 and the 66 especially since one of my favorite franchises are lethal weapon (haven't seen the tv show yet) but Danny glover rocked a model 19 blued with those rubber grips and ever since then I love my 19 even if it is a snubbie I wouldn't mind a blues 19 or 66 stainless or ss

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Having a few representative models of each (27-2 vs. Python, 66-1 vs King Cobra, 19-4 and 28-2 vs. Trooper MkIII, 29-2 vs. Anaconda) I can say this about them as I did do a lot of comparing:

I like the S&W DA trigger better, and find the Smith just a little easier to smooth out. SA is a wash as I see/feel no real difference. The air gap between the front on rear sights on my Colts is a little less, which makes ME more precise when shooting them. Others may experience differently.
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I'm gonna stick with the smiths easier to find and more reasonable money wise as well. I'd love to get a colt and who knows one day I may but for now the classic smith and wessons are where it's at for me
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Don't feel like you're settling with a 66-1 4". it's a great revolver on it's own merits. If a Colt falls into your lap for a good price, by all means buy it. You can probably sell it pretty quickly and make some money after you shoot it a while and realize you like the 66-1 better. I have S&W and Colt, not knocking Colt, but when I go shooting I grab the Smiths.
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Justus1213 the main thing to remember about the ammo is too stay away from the 110 - 125 gr. Magnum loads. I have read several articles about how those can cause damage to the forcing cones. The .38 Special ammo is not powerful enough to cause damage to the forcing cones. Does that mean you can not use the 110 - 125 gr. Magnums in it? No, but do so sparingly. It seems the constant use of them is detrimental. At home all my K-frames currently have .38 Special +P ammo and my L and N frame S&W and Colt have the 125 Gr. SJHP Magnum load. They use different speed loaders so getting them mixed up is not much of a problem.
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Okay I see what you're saying plus with magnum ammo always going up in price it seems like .38 special seems like the better option and since I already only use that in my model 19 anyway
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