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Model 64 questions opinion
Since moving to a new state last year I have been trying to no avail to find a shop with a worthwhile supply of smith revolvers, but the best I can do usually do is a shop with maybe 2 or 3 in stock. I much prefer older blued steel.
Anyhow I have been looking for a spare / backup shooter grade k frame and yesterday spotted a 64. It is what I will call "newer" as in it has no pin barrel the newer style cylinder latch and frame
Mounted firing pin. It is also DA only. It was not marked NY-1.
They had it on the shelf for $300. What do you think of that price? Just the gun no box papers or tools and it was wearing rubber grips. Sorry don't recall the dash #. It is shooter grade ( which is what I am looking for anyway) I suspect perhaps (live very close to a larger shop that usually has lots of police trades) is it may be one of the brinks guns.
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It was probably a -6.
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It is a good price if the condition is also good. If you are experienced and can give the gun a good "looking-over," I would grab it. If not, there is a thread on this forum on how to inspect a used revolver. Required reading, in the humble opinion of this revolver guy. FYI, I purchased 2 used casino-issue 64 HBs several years ago for $300 each and have never regretted doing so.
You may want to be ready for hardened spray lube in the innards. This seems to be "standard maintenance" for some agency guns that are rarely, if ever, fired.
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Good advice above from kaaskop49. I think the Md 64 is one of the best utility revolvers ever. Due to being stainless steel, I prefer it over the Md 10. Chances are good that it will clean up real nice and with some nice wood stocks it will be a gun you are proud of without breaking the bank. And maybe you can negotiate an even better price.
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Model 64 is a great revolver and that is a great price if it passes the inspect the proper inspection. I don't like DAO but from a Concealed Carry standpoint, that is definitely a plus for your own defense in case you have to use it.
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The DAO is an easy fix with a new hammer (most likely) and the price point is good if you are happy with the overall condition.
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If it's a 64-5 with the serrated back strap it will probably have one of the best stock triggers you'll ever find. I've got a couple and have handled several and they all have Very nice triggers. I especially like the DAO feature in that respect. It's very smooth.
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I have a Dallas PD 64-3; quite accurate and shoots pretty much to point of aim with 158 grain cast SWCs. I would consider the DAO a negative feature, but one that could be fixed if desired.
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It is a good price if the condition is also good. If you are experienced and can give the gun a good "looking-over," I would grab it. If not, there is a thread on this forum on how to inspect a used revolver. Required reading, in the humble opinion of this revolver guy. FYI, I purchased 2 used casino-issue 64 HBs several years ago for $300 each and have never regretted doing so.
You may want to be ready for hardened spray lube in the innards. This seems to be "standard maintenance" for some agency guns that are rarely, if ever, fired.
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Ah, that explains the gunk I found inside my 64-3.
If it passes inspection, I'd grab it.
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I have a Dallas PD 64-3; quite accurate and shoots pretty much to point of aim with 158 grain cast SWCs. I would consider the DAO a negative feature, but one that could be fixed if desired.
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Was that a recent dealer purchase? If so, where?
I'd love to find a Texas LEO-marked S&W. especially North Texas.
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If it's a 64-5 with the serrated back strap it will probably have one of the best stock triggers you'll ever find. I've got a couple and have handled several and they all have Very nice triggers. I especially like the DAO feature in that respect. It's very smooth.
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You're not kidding, I have a 64-5 DAO completely stock and the trigger is as good as any I've handled. I only bought one, at the price they were going for I should have grabbed 5!
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i like my model 64's.....trimmed.....
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The DAO is an easy fix with a new hammer (most likely) and the price point is good if you are happy with the overall condition.
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The "fix" you speak of is not always as drop-in easy as you might hope.
I converted one, and it ended up being more work than I expected.
See want to convert DAO Model 64-5 to single/double action
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I carried a model 64 many, many years ago while doing security work. It was a great revolver. I never should have sold it.
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I just bought 2 LE trade-in model 64s from Buds Gun Shop. The first one I received was a 64-6 and the second was a 64-5 square butt. Both guns came in great shape. Very little carry ware and both were mechanically sound. In fact, the 64-5 I received has one of the smoothest triggers of any of my Smiths. Both of these were $425 from Buds. I initially thought the price was a little high until I saw the excellent condition of these weapons. I agree that the 64 is a great utility revolver. I would highly recommend it.
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My new 64-5. Picked up yesterday for $317 out the door. Underneath the goodyears is a really nice round butt frame.
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I have a 64-2 with a 2" barrel that I carry occasionally. It's a wonderful shooter with a great trigger. I think you should buy it especially for that price! I may get another one of these days!
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I just picked up a 64 a few weeks ago, also a 64-2 with 2" barrel. I was surprised by how good it shoots for a snub, no trouble hitting the bowling pins at 25 yards. It has a really great trigger. I'd say if you have a chance to get one, especially for a great price, grab it.
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I checked the gun for push off end shake etc and all seemed good and the trigger was a delight. I think after pay day I may be visiting the shop again! After a bit of a rough start professionally since moving I am now at a point I can start buying again and hope the gun is still there when I go back. Clerk said the inventory tag for the shop showed it had been on the shelf over a year so that tells me I should have wiggle room on the price
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Model 64
This Model 64 DAO with Altamont stocks is my favorite all around shooter, and night-stand gun. Ya can't go wrong with one of these
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If it passes "hands on tests", I'd pick that up in a heartbeat!
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Someday, somewhere, maybe in a parallel universe, somebody will have something negative to say about a 10/64 revolver. However, I'm not holding my breath!
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Since moving to a new state last year I have been trying to no avail to find a shop with a worthwhile supply of smith revolvers, but the best I can do usually do is a shop with maybe 2 or 3 in stock. I much prefer older blued steel.
Anyhow I have been looking for a spare / backup shooter grade k frame and yesterday spotted a 64. It is what I will call "newer" as in it has no pin barrel the newer style cylinder latch and frame
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They had it on the shelf for $300. What do you think of that price? Just the gun no box papers or tools and it was wearing rubber grips. Sorry don't recall the dash #. It is shooter grade ( which is what I am looking for anyway) I suspect perhaps (live very close to a larger shop that usually has lots of police trades) is it may be one of the brinks guns.
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I have a Brink's gun. It's a M64-4 with 2" barrel and bobbed hammer and a very sweet trigger pull. Picked it up at J&G Sales several years ago for $250. It's fast became my favorite.
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My first revolver was purchased nov 2015. 64-3 $399.00. I love it. Got me hooked on Revolvers. Just bought a 642 to carry. I put altimont grips on as im not a rubber grip guy.Havent shot yet but cant wait.
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Just send me the address of the shop and I will gladly remove that temptation from you. 64's aren't worth that much. (How quickly can I get there?).
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jtcarm- haven't looked at this thread in while, but in response to your question...I bought my 64-3 about twenty-five years ago. DPD had transitioned to semi-autos a few years before and were selling revolvers as surplus, at least those that weren't purchased by the officers to whom they were issued. I went through a bunch of 64s that were loose in a cardboard box at the DPD Quartermaster. I'd be surprised if any of these guns had been fired very much.
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jd67- in response to your comment... I must agree with you regarding a 64 for everyday carry; that's a beast of a gun to conceal. And it's heavy.
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jd67- in response to your comment... I must agree with you regarding a 64 for everyday carry; that's a beast of a gun to conceal. And it's heavy.
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I've carried a 3" Model 64 many times, easy to conceal IWB. I have not tried it with a 4" model but I can't see it being that much worse.
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jtcarm- haven't looked at this thread in while, but in response to your question...I bought my 64-3 about twenty-five years ago. DPD had transitioned to semi-autos a few years before and were selling revolvers as surplus, at least those that weren't purchased by the officers to whom they were issued. I went through a bunch of 64s that were loose in a cardboard box at the DPD Quartermaster. I'd be surprised if any of these guns had been fired very much.
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Great post! You want to take them all,but for some reason , you just can't! Reminds me of the cardboard boxes filled with gently used 4" 10s that a bank sold to our range's pro shop/FFL. They were disbanding their armed security. I handled every one as we logged in their serial #s. All DAs were perfect. CAUTION: I did find a live round in one of them. I know we've heard this before, but be sure to check before we try trigger pulls! Can't be too careful.
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Something else on my 64...Mine is definitely a Dallas PD gun, but is unmarked. Whether this one was overlooked or the practice was discontinued, I don't know. I'm not a collector of police guns, but have about a 1968 Dallas PD Model 15 Combat Masterpiece with "DPD" stamped on the butt. Another DPD from about 1958 is unmarked (?). Just something to be aware of if you're looking for old PD guns.
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jd67- in response to your comment... I must agree with you regarding a 64 for everyday carry; that's a beast of a gun to conceal. And it's heavy.
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I had to carry a 4" M64 under a suit coast for a while for a specific assignment. It was heavy but, more than that, bulky.
I am not a fan of shoulder holsters.
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I carried a four-inch M-64 in a Bianchi Shadow holster, under a short uniform jacket, the "Ike" style jacket.
It didn't seem bulky and concealed quite well.
Keep in mind that this is a service revolver, not primarily a concealed carry gun. But FBI and many detectives wore guns that size. The right holster makes a great deal of difference.
I once worked a Presidential protective detail with an OSI agent who wore his M-15 in a holster that created a bad bulge under his coat.
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I have two 64's. One a 5 with a 4 in barrel, and the other a 2 with a snubbie face. As others have stated here, the action on the 64 is often truly outstanding. I have a model 10 snubbie, but the action is a bit different, and I can't put my finger on it (pun absolutely intended). The gun you're looking at sounds like a nice choice with an excellent price point. I would have noooo problem paying that price for the gun you describe. Keep in mind that even with all the 64's and 10's which have been made over the years, these guns hold their value really well. I recently sold a 4 inch 64, from 1993, which I'd owned only a few months... and I got $80 more than what I'd shelled out. The beauty of the K-frame. Here's a pretty good youtube vid on revolver inspection...
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Yeah Back in the day I carried one for years on and off duty. A bit
big for concealed carry at first, but after awhile it fits. Still have one and they are great 64-3 4"
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Oddly enough I was in another local shop with a non dao 64 in the case also for $300. Alas no blued steel to be found. If either of these had been a blued gun I would already own them. Have a couple days off next week so may be time to finally buy something !
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