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Forgive me for not searching for older posts, but what are some of your thoughts regarding the appearance, fit, and function of the Classics Series revolvers? I'm actually pretty excited about the prospects of adding a Model 27, 57, 29 or a 17 to my collection. It's not going to happen soon due to saving for a fall wedding for our daughter but as soon as I can pull it off I'll be back in the market.
I've got a very modest collection of S&W revolvers dating from immediately after WWII to present. And I'm well aware of costs for very good condition or better models from past decades. So the thought of a Classics example definitely has my interest. I've just not seen or handled any. So, would love to hear comments and/or see some pictures.
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Not sure if you're talking about the new Classic Series or the older ones, but I have a 29-6 Classic that finish wise is the nicest S&W I've owned. The only thing is it needs a trigger job to be as good as my older guns. I haven't gotten to shoot it yet so I'm not sure about accuracy.
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Thanks BTL. Then I should have stated "New" Classics Series. Great looking 29 by the way.
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This 629 - 6 Classic has been one of the best firearm purchases I've made. Exceptional form, function, across the board. Couldn't be better.
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03-19-2017, 02:11 PM
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I cleaned her up a bit with some sweet Ahrends grips, but don't have a pic handy to share at moment. With the custom woods on, I'd put that gun next to anything S&W has ever made and feel great about it. The IL just doesn't offend me.
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I have a new 586 Classics with 6" barrel. The fit ,finish and function are all very good. I'm happy with wood on grips , no barrel cant and shoots were you point it. I wish there was no lock but not a deal breaker and with blued finish not very noticeable.
One of the biggest reasons I purchased new rather than an old Smith & Wesson is I wanted a blued Smith revolver that I can shoot a lot without the anxiety of ruining the finish or breaking parts that Smith & Wesson can't fix or warranty any more. I have older Smiths that I love 13-2 and 629-3 Classic and shoot but not as often as I would like.
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IMO it would be worth your while to look in to some deals on older revolvers instead of going with the new "Classics". First, new revolvers are expensive. Second, some of the attributes of older revolvers, that make them special in the first place, can't be reproduced at any price.
Over the last few years, I have gotten really good deals on nice older revolvers. There seems to be a lot of gun owners out there who don't really understand (or care) that they have something special in there daddy's old gun collection. Consequently, they are trading them for 50 cents on the dollar for Glocks and other wonder nines. I have nothing against Glocks or other auto pistols. I just love revolvers.
I recently traded a Glock 21 for a vintage 1966 98% S&W Model 10-5. I picked up a 95% model 30-1 and a 99% Model 36 no dash for $680 total.
MSRP on a new Model 10 "Classic" is $739.
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I bought the 586 classic:
- Everything has been good to go on it so far. I think I paid $765 for the 6 shot. While it would be great to own original runs, you have to search, you have to wait, you have also have to wonder about a used guns true condition and shoot-ability. Did you get a good deal or buy someone's problem.
- Only thing, i would have liked is for it to be a 7 shot as opposed to 6.
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IMO it would be worth your while to look in to some deals on older revolvers instead of going with the new "Classics". First, new revolvers are expensive. Second, some of the attributes of older revolvers, that make them special in the first place, can't be reproduced at any price.
Over the last few years, I have gotten really good deals on nice older revolvers. There seems to be a lot of gun owners out there who don't really understand (or care) that they have something special in there daddy's old gun collection. Consequently, they are trading them for 50 cents on the dollar for Glocks and other wonder nines. I have nothing against Glocks or other auto pistols. I just love revolvers.
I recently traded a Glock 21 for a vintage 1966 98% S&W Model 10-5. I picked up a 95% model 30-1 and a 99% Model 36 no dash for $680 total.
MSRP on a new Model 10 "Classic" is $739.
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Your point is well taken. And the older Smith's are ALWAYS on my radar screen. I've got a minty K22 from right after the war, a 14-4 to go with it, a 29-2, a 63 no dash, 686-3, and recent 442. So yeah, if I can find a steal I'll jump on an older one. I was just not going to rule out a new Classics as surely they'd price a little below suggested retail.
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Hey DCV. Your 25 sounds great. Thanks for the feedback. Naturally, would love to see any pics if you were so inclined.
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I suspect the new classic blue guns have a funky finish: nothing like the real classics.
As has been mentioned above, I'd buy a real classic long before I'd consider the 'old' or 'new' 'classic' series.
But that's me.
Different strokes.
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Originally Posted by BornToLooze
Not sure if you're talking about the new Classic Series or the older ones, but I have a 29-6 Classic that finish wise is the nicest S&W I've owned. The only thing is it needs a trigger job to be as good as my older guns. I haven't gotten to shoot it yet so I'm not sure about accuracy.
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Send it to me. I'll find time to fire it!
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I bought a 57-6, 41 mag classic about 2 to 3 months ago, I believe. I went that direction, because of some of the arguments given here. Can not tell if it was rode hard and put away wet, it was brand new, no one, possibly beat on it before I got it. I wanted a shooter, I am not a collector. The lock does not bother me, I simply don't use it. The price was not inflated, which happens here, a lot, because, it was pinned, and recessed. That did not matter either, again, I'm a shooter, not a collector. I am very happy with it
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I bought a 57-6, 41 mag classic about 2 to 3 months ago, I believe. I went that direction, because of some of the arguments given here. Can not tell if it was rode hard and put away wet, it was brand new, no one, possibly beat on it before I got it. I wanted a shooter, I am not a collector. The lock does not bother me, I simply don't use it. The price was not inflated, which happens here, a lot, because, it was pinned, and recessed. That did not matter either, again, I'm a shooter, not a collector. I am very happy with it
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Let's see some pictures Hammer. Please
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I've posted these before, but here they are again. Model 29 Classic:
As you can see, fit and finish are acceptable.
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Take the models S&W deem to be "classics", double the price, triple the current quality and detail, leave off the locks, install quality fancy wood stocks, and now you have a revolver I would be interested in owning and passing on down in the family.
Oh yea, have everyone who ever handled that gun sign off on a numbered certificate included with each gun manufactured.
Shipped in blue cardboard box would do just dandy.
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This Classic Series Model 22 of 1917 is one that I shoot and hope to keep for a long time.
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I bought the 586 classic:
- Everything has been good to go on it so far. I think I paid $765 for the 6 shot. While it would be great to own original runs, you have to search, you have to wait, you have also have to wonder about a used guns true condition and shoot-ability. Did you get a good deal or buy someone's problem.
- Only thing, i would have liked is for it to be a 7 shot as opposed to 6.
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My 586 Classic should be released from Buds layaway jail in the next week. I think i caught them in a price war as it was listed
for $667. I couldn't resist, hence the layaway. The 6 shot didn't bother me either.
I have been eyeing the 25 lately and did get to hold one. It was very nice, but $25 shy of msrp. Holding out for a better deal. Saw one for $805 on grabagun, but gotta wait a little bit. I will chime in on the quality of the 586 when it arrives./ Ron
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IMHO if you want a REAL Classic S&W Revolver buy a REAL vintage model. The so called new "Classics" are not even close to being classic. They may look OK to a novice, but anyone who had or has a REAL CLASSIC certainly knows the difference. Just my opinion and YMMV.
In most cases, the REAL McCoy will not only cost you less but in the long run it will be worth more. I see little to no market for the new ones being released as "classic line guns".
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Thanks DCV. That's the first good look I've had at this current Classic's line. That is just what I wanted to see. I can see why you like it and I would very much like to handle one myself.
And Chief 38 I understand your take loud and clear. Heck, I'm so enamored with my own older Smith's that they're practically becoming safe queens. I don't even own one that you'd call shooter grade.
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I didn't get so lucky on my 586 last week......sent back to s&w
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I have a classic m17 that was a display model. I had a trigger job done on it, and it is a crazy sweet shooter. It did have some wear from all the handling, but the seller knocked off $100 (I think it was $550 OTD). Knowing what I know now, I probably would have bought an older 17, but having owned this one for a few years, I've no regrets and probably did well because of my "ignorance".
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I've found my 629 Classic (Purchased summer 2016) to be very well done. Really like it.
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I have enjoyed my 25-15 very much. Bluing is fine, and the metal prep under the blue is generally better than most of my 1980's revolvers. You wouldn't mistake it for a pre-WWI finish, but not much else compares, either.
BTW, dimensionally, the 29-15 is rather better in the throat and chamber areas than my first 25-5, purchased way back in the early 1980s!
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I didn't get so lucky on my 586 last week......sent back to s&w
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You heard back from them yet?
I picked up my 586 today and have to say, it looks way better than the M29 classic I bought last month. The fit and finish, gaps and lockup are perfect. Im considering calling S&W and having them make the expensive gun look like the "little brother"! Bluing
difference on the two is day and night Will post 586 pics in a day or two.
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I love my model 27-8.
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This Classic Series Model 22 of 1917 is one that I shoot and hope to keep for a long time.
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I have that exact revolver. I know it's nothing but a copy with a few mods to what was original but, it sits next to a 29,57,27,and 25 with pride!
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I've owned one of the 27-9's in the past, and just purchased a 586-8. I think they were both as nice as any Smith & Wesson I've ever owned. The blue is not the same as the old bluing, but it's just different.
I got both of them out of the "used" case, so I got them for pretty good prices, but I've haven't bought a "new" gun in ages. I think the only "new" Smith & Wesson I ever bought was the very first one.
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Hello forum;
I collect Smiths and I shoot Smiths. Personally I wouldn't collect what I don't feel comfortable shooting. When that "safe queen protective" feeling gets in ye ole brain (as it did with a 41byf Luger, several Colts...still some left) I sell or trade almost as fast as I can.
To me it is so similar to the hot muscle cars of my youth/young man era.........sure....I drooled about a 66 Vette with the 427, factory side pipes and factory Muncie....but the stars never aligned. What if Generous Motors decided tonight to release a "classic" retro 66 Vette? Even with a "modern" 427 it still would be mandated to run on 10-20% ethanol, no lead, all controlled by some fancy computer, and available with some kind of automatic....just wouldn't be the same for me...no drool factor at all.
The older Smiths? My 1931 Outdoorsman's still kicks b*$$ at the range, fun to shoot (grandkids now, my own kids earlier). My 25-2 .45 ACP?...I've got to post a range report of the B27 reduced (50 foot Police silhouette) with my daughters NC State duty weapon Glock 21 vs. my 25-2. She kicked my b*$$ and put all 13 in the x and 10 rings, but the 25 put 12 in 6 inches, and that was with switching moon clips.
Nostalgia? Just plain fun? I don't care but it just wouldn't be the same (for me) with a "classic" repop. Kinda why I also like my old Dodge Ram (2002) with a "real" 5.97 liter V8 against "new" trucks with a hopped up V6....lets hear your pipes friends.
For the OP......you have it perfectly right, spot on...shoot and have fun with whatever your Smith choice ends up to be...life seems to be very short.
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Some will say " yeah " and some will say " nay " about the new classics . I have 3 , 2 / 29-10's (4" and 6" ) and a 25-10 (6" ) all great shooters . My personal opinion is that the fit , finish , function is just as good as my older smiths and I've been shooting smiths a long long time . My 29's have the endurance pkg and that adds to the longevity esp if shooting full magnum loads . My first 29 was a dash 3 , it spent more time at the gunsmiths than at my house . I dumped it , took quite a loss
. My 57's are all the older models as are my 19's , I will not consider selling them either . So yes , I have both ends of what some would call " classics " and I enjoy them all .
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