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Old 03-20-2017, 11:15 AM
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I have a 44 Magnum, 454 Casull, and Smith 500. No practical use for the 500 where I live but I had to have it.

Is there an advantage to adding a 460 XVR? What game can I bag with it?


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I have no idea. To me, it's just an AWESOME revolver that I'd like to own one day. Just 'cause
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Ummm...YEA! I was a 44mag guy all the way...until I shot the 460XVR! It is not bad to shoot at all, very similar to a 44mag, but with the muzzle brake it's more of a shove....no muzzle climb...a pleasure to shoot....a very big boomer! Just make sure folks around you are behind you and have their ears on!
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Ummm...YEA! I was a 44mag guy all the way...until I shot the 460XVR! It is not bad to shoot at all, very similar to a 44mag, but with the muzzle brake it's more of a shove....no muzzle climb...a pleasure to shoot....a very big boomer! Just make sure folks around you are behind you and have their ears on!

So not as bad as a 454 Casull, then? I don't really notice anything punishing from the 454.

Thanks for the feedback....


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l take my 460PC to ''Shooters lndoor Range'' now and then...

Shooting reduced recoil loads most of the draws little attention..

All l have to do is light OFF a few Hornady Factory 200FTX rounds...

Total Silence and faces of AWE!!!! Worth every Penny l paid for it..

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Kinda like owning a Dodge Hell Cat or a ZR1 Corvette..

Just a ''Hundred Grand Cheaper''...

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If I ever take the plunge, it'll be a 5" model...
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Only difference in my opinion is reloading cost and ease of developing reduced recoil loads (powder selection).
(If you buy one of these I can't see shooting reduced recoil loads, should of bought a lighter caliber.)

Don't really consider that an advantage. The recoil is different than the 500 and less taxing over the course of several hours of shooting.

I have plenty of both but prefer the 460S&W.

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I don't want reduced power. I want full power. Though a 725 grain 500 is not necessary.


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You are the only one who can determine if owning a 460 is worth it for you.

I have one and while either of my 44 mags will do anything I could ever ask of a handgun in my circumstances, I have no regrets about buying it.
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One range l shoot Field Pistol competition does not allow any loads above

above 44 Magnum to protect the targets from

damage.. In Big Bore Silh IHMSA matches we are not limited in power..

However the close proximity of fellow shooters is the main consideration.

Reduced loads are used for Big Bore too...

Am working on a possible Prairie Dog shoot for June. Requiring MAX loads

for long range dogs

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l take my 460PC to ''Shooters lndoor Range'' now and then...

Shooting reduced recoil loads most of the draws little attention..

All l have to do is light OFF a few Hornady Factory 200FTX rounds...

Total Silence and faces of AWE!!!! Worth every Penny l paid for it..

When Bam-Bam speaks EVERYBODY listens...

Kinda like owning a Dodge Hell Cat or a ZR1 Corvette..

Just a ''Hundred Grand Cheaper''...
HEY EVER'BODY!!! LOOK AT ME!!! I'M A BIG BOY NOW!!! LOOK AT ME!!! WE BAD... UH HUH...

That is exactly what they are for. Helps you forget your "short guy" problem.
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I would think the advantage is flatter trajectory which makes the thing more practical for longer range hunting shots. Before any jumps on me, I know longer range shots are possible with a 44. The 460 though, if I remember right shoit's pretty flat out to 200 yards. Depending on what you are using it for that's a pretty big advantage.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:31 PM
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I would think the advantage is flatter trajectory which makes the thing more practical for longer range hunting shots. Before any jumps on me, I know longer range shots are possible with a 44. The 460 though, if I remember right shoit's pretty flat out to 200 yards. Depending on what you are using it for that's a pretty big advantage.


That's the main draw for me.


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I had the 6.5" 629 Classic before I bought the 460XVR. I bought the 460 for longer shots on deer with a handgun, yes I would be lying if I didn't like the what was that when I touch it off at our indoor range. I knew the 460 would be better at longer shots than the 500. I like my 44 mag for shots at bow range but the 460 is in the holster on most deer hunting trips. I like variety hunting deer, rifle choices are, 300 Win Mag, 30-06, 30-30, 444Marlin, 45-70. Good luck on whatever you decide to buy.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:23 AM
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The 460s&w to me is a natural progression moving up from the 44mag. I have the 8 3/8" XVR...it shoots straight and flat! Much flatter than the 44mag when you are talking 100-200+ yds...I think if I was going to carry it around the 5" would be more doable. I may need to get one! But all that said, it is fun to shoot, I plan to hunt with mine. I don't bother with reduced loads, I load my own which makes the 460 very affordable to shoot. I've never shot the 454 or 45LC rounds out of mine.
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Was considering a .460 XVR for sale locally, neat gun but since I do not hunt and mostly shoot indoors nowadays just couldn't justify that it did anything to a paper target that my .357 or .44 Mag could not reproduce.

That being said I liked the .460 more than the 500 Mag because it could also fire .45 Colt, 454 Casull (and 45 ACP with a cylinder mod).
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Engine49guy beat me to it. Reduced loads was mentioned earlier in the thread, and the 460 has 2 loads pre-programmed as reduced loads. One of those loads you already shoot, the 454 Casull. 45LC also shoots well from the 460 at reduced cost vs the big boomers. Only consideration when shooting the shorter cases is to clean the cylinder routinely so there is no difficulty when chambering the longer cases from lead build up or powder ring.
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Any advantage of owning a 460 XVR? YES!!

From MY personal experience, they are made much more precisely

than other Smith &Wesson revolvers.. Put an X Frame next to an 'N'

frame the differences are obvious. XFR has a better trigger feel. The

cyl locks up tighter too. Forcing cone looks better with its machining.

Muzzle crown is cut more precisely. l shoot with people who compete

using Freedom Arms revolvers.. Those are Masterpieces in fit, finish, and

precision... My 460PC is equal to the FA.. Not so with the typical ''N''

frame.


My only gripe w/SW 460s is shooting short cases in them. Almost impossible

to get the cylinder clean after shooting 45 COLTS in mine. l learned

the hard way on that.. Now l shoot reduced 45 Colt loads in 460 brass.

l simply use a card wad over the powder. lt fools the bullet and powder.

They think they are in a 45 Colt case..

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Any advantage of owning a 460 XVR? YES!!

From MY personal experience, they are made much more precisely

than other Smith &Wesson revolvers.. Put an X Frame next to an 'N'

frame the differences are obvious. XFR has a better trigger feel. The

cyl locks up tighter too. Forcing cone looks better with its machining.

Muzzle crown is cut more precisely. l shoot with people who compete

using Freedom Arms revolvers.. Those are Masterpieces in fit, finish, and

precision... My 460PC is equal to the FA.. Not so with the typical ''N''

frame.


My only gripe w/SW 460s is shooting short cases in them. Almost impossible

to get the cylinder clean after shooting 45 COLTS in mine. l learned

the hard way on that.. Now l shoot reduced 45 Colt loads in 460 brass.

l simply use a card wad over the powder. lt fools the bullet and powder.

They think they are in a 45 Colt case..


I have a 454 Casull already. But I prefer the Magnum over the lighter loads. I'd use the 460 XVR specifically for hunting.

I have cast a wide net for one, checking with a few local people who sell them here. After a little bit of research, I may do a 8.5 or 10" barrel.


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I have a 44 Magnum, 454 Casull, and Smith 500. No practical use for the 500 where I live but I had to have it.

Is there an advantage to adding a 460 XVR? What game can I bag with it?
If you're asking the question, you want one. Sure, you don't have any practical use for one, but I bet you have a bunch of guns that don't really serve a practical purpose.

Fortunately, this is America.
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Late last year I bought a S&W PC 629 with 7.5" barrel for deer hunting here in Illinois. After I purchased the 629 I shot a 460 that belonged to a friend of mine and decided I needed one of those to. I find the 460 just a fun gun to shoot and am glad I purchased it!
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I have never used the shorter Casull or Colt cases in my 460. The 460 is an extremely high pressure round, higher than many centerfire rifles, most loading data showing pressures at or around 60k PSI. I never cared for the idea of stubborn fouling in the chamber throats possibly causing pressure spikes. If I want to send less horsepower downrange, I shoot a different revolver chambered in something with less horsepower.

You can use reduced 460 but use caution. Only a few powders are suitable for reduced loads in the very large 460 S&W case. Stay away from H110, W296 and similar powders if you want to make reduced rounds. I believe Western Powders has a "reduced loads" section for the 460 that utilizes powders other than what are considered "ideal" for max power out of the 460.
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I have never used the shorter Casull or Colt cases in my 460. The 460 is an extremely high pressure round, higher than many centerfire rifles, most loading data showing pressures at or around 60k PSI. I never cared for the idea of stubborn fouling in the chamber throats possibly causing pressure spikes. If I want to send less horsepower downrange, I shoot a different revolver chambered in something with less horsepower.

You can use reduced 460 but use caution. Only a few powders are suitable for reduced loads in the very large 460 S&W case. Stay away from H110, W296 and similar powders if you want to make reduced rounds. I believe Western Powders has a "reduced loads" section for the 460 that utilizes powders other than what are considered "ideal" for max power out of the 460.


What grain weight and powder do you use for the 460?

I shot the 500 but the recoil feels a little less stout than the 454 Casull. Maybe it's less muzzle flip. I don't know. I didn't shoot the 454 today with the Smith 500. I shot the 500 with my 44 Magnum. The 44 felt like a 38+P.


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I have a stock of 240 and 300gr Hornady XTP Mags for the 460. Haven't tried the 300 grainers yet but it seems to like the 240's.

Powder: H110 at 47.5gr if I recall. I used Hodgdon's loading data and when I pushed to .5gr under max I had extraction issues with 3 out of a cylinder full. I'm told my throats are likely on the tight side compared to some.

Dollars to donuts your 500 seemed a bit more tamed compared to your 454 due to two factors: Weight and porting. Firing 454 level stuff from my 460 while definitely letting you know you are sending some HP is noticeably milder than full 460 loads. Not night and day, but you can tell the difference. Granted, the rounds I am speaking of were Winchester "Reduced Recoil" 460 Mag loads, but going by the stated velocity on the box they are right on par with the Casull. The heft and compensator or porting on the X-frame really tames the Casull down.

My 460 only seems slightly more punchy than my 4" m29 with full house loads in each. What gets you with my shorter barreled 460v is the concussion that hits you in the face. Guaranteed to clear stopped up sinuses in three rounds or less.
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I have a 44 Magnum, 454 Casull, and Smith 500. No practical use for the 500 where I live but I had to have it.

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No Pratical use for the 500 or the 460. You can bag any game with either. And yes, I have a 500 and the fun effect is worthy. A 460 would be just as much fun. Some will say how versatile the 460 is since you can shoot 45LC and 454 through it. But that is a lame reason for buying one. If I want to shoot light, I'll just use a different gun. If you can afford it, buy it. Will be a fun addition to the armory.


No desire to shoot 45 Colt in a 460. I want the 200 grain 460 for velocity. If i want punch, I'd use my 500.

I do prefer my Smith and Wesson triggers over the Ruger Super Redhawk 454 Casull. I don't shoot the 45 Colt in it, either.


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