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03-26-2017, 05:16 PM
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Possible 686 3-5-7 talo trigger reset issue
Hey everyone,
This is my first time posting on the forum and i would love feed back. I bought a new 686 3-5-7 talo with the 5" barrel and the trigger is amazing in sa, but in da if i let the trigger go back to the resting position with my finger on it at a slower rate then just letting it go, the next trigger pull does not make the hammer ride back. Near the end of that trigger pull the hammer in its resting position then will push the firing pin forward under its weight. Also on that trigger pull the cylinder will spin normally. The trigger will reset after that trigger pull and is liable do the same thing again if repeated. I would say it happens 1 out of 4 or 5 trigger pulls. This is a brand new gun and i have yet to fire it. I found this potential problem dry firing.
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03-26-2017, 05:31 PM
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I was wandering if this is normal for them or is anyone else having issues like this?
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03-26-2017, 05:40 PM
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It's new & probably dry inside & you letting the trigger out slow is not letting it reset all the way. A little lube & breaking in it should be OK but if not call S&W CS.
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03-26-2017, 06:02 PM
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Thanks for the feed back. It is very appreciated.
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03-26-2017, 06:55 PM
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It could be lubrication, but probably not.
It could be an improperly fit cylinder stop, or the cam surface could be rough from filing during fitting.
If the gun was used when you bought it, or if you have changed or cut the rebound spring, either a shortened spring or a too light spring is a good possibility.
Finally, if it functions properly when the trigger is released normally, just relax and let the trigger go forward, then it is very likely that this is what is referred to as an "Operator induced malfunction". Quit riding the trigger and preventing it from recovering normally. If the trigger feels a bit "lazy" on recovery then replace the rebound spring with a new factory spring.
Other possibilities are an improperly fit rebound slide that isn't rebounding the hammer sufficiently the allow the hammer block to rise freely between the face of the hammer and the surface it strikes on the frame. It could also be a defective or damaged hammer block. There may also be metal chips, either from the factory, particles of brass, sand, etc. inside the gun causing any number of problems. Start by watching your finger, giving the lockwork a good cleaning and lubrication and see what happens from there.
In over 50 years of working on S&W revolvers I have seen every one of the above reasons for a trigger not recovering positively.
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03-26-2017, 07:09 PM
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If this is a new gun, it needs to be right or it needs to go back to S&W.
That said, I've had a few new S&W revolvers that seemed a little sluggish on the trigger return in first uses.
My suggestion is to shoot/dry fire it a few hundred times (being careful not to hinder the triggers return.) before contacting the factory. Based on my experience it will likely clear itself.
PS I have the same 5" Talo 686+. it's a favorite!
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03-26-2017, 08:28 PM
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My new 3" 686-6 did that. I had to send it back twice before it was fixed. The turn around time was about three weeks each time. It's fine now.
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03-27-2017, 12:37 AM
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As mentioned, your problem could be caused be several different things.
I had one that had a rebound slide with a burr on it's back which needed smoothing out. Sometimes they have debris/metal chips inside that need flushing out.
You might try to give it's innards a liberal spraying out, with the grips off, to clean/lube it (Rem-Oil spray) and see if it's any better.
If it doesn't smooth out with some more dry firing, & you aren't comfortable doing more, I'd call S&W for a repair tag.
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