Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-30-2017, 12:53 AM
Matt40's Avatar
Matt40 Matt40 is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 25
Likes: 2
Liked 29 Times in 11 Posts
Default Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?

I just received my new M36 Classic (built Feb 2017), and will take it to the range tomorrow. I "think" I'm disappointed in the grip fitting, though. I own 5 other S&W revolvers, and each one of them have grips perfectly mounted to the frame (no gaps). My 36 is a little off. There is a 1 mm gap on each side between the top of the grip and the frame, just below the hammer (the pictures show the gap; one shows two sheets of cleaning patches inserted in the gap). Otherwise, the grip fits perfectly all the way down to the heel. The gap isn't much, but I'm afraid it will collect dirt/grime overtime. I've looked at plenty of J-frame pictures on the forum, and haven't noticed anyone complaining about their grips not fitting properly.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20170329_170122_LLS.jpg (56.1 KB, 288 views)
File Type: jpg 20170329_174245.jpg (41.2 KB, 312 views)
File Type: jpg 20170329_171350.jpg (49.8 KB, 344 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-30-2017, 01:26 AM
Autonomous's Avatar
Autonomous Autonomous is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 705
Likes: 533
Liked 1,016 Times in 389 Posts
Default

That isn't right, you have a legitimate complaint.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 03-30-2017, 01:47 AM
chief38's Avatar
chief38 chief38 is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 17,800
Likes: 7,843
Liked 25,707 Times in 8,687 Posts
Default

NOT RIGHT! Call S&W and tell them you want a new set of grips. If you email them a picture you might not have to send the gun in.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 03-30-2017, 02:08 AM
Ashlander's Avatar
Ashlander Ashlander is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ellisville, Missouri
Posts: 2,226
Likes: 4,996
Liked 1,309 Times in 685 Posts
Default

I believe these grips are made by Altamont and while they are pretty, I have not had good luck with fit. On 2 out of three sets I have bought, the back edges extended past the steel frame and bite on recoil. By comparison the Ahrends grips I've bought have all been a good fit (I have 7 sets).
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 03-30-2017, 05:29 AM
murphydog's Avatar
murphydog murphydog is offline
Moderator
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,878
Likes: 980
Liked 18,994 Times in 9,294 Posts
Default

Another case of "universal fit" being not so...universal. There is probably just enough individual variation in (gun) production tolerances so the stocks won't fit properly.

The older (pre-1980) S & W revolver stocks were individually fitted to each grip frame, so original stocks tended to fit really well. Agree a call to factory customer service, followed by e-mailed photos, are in order.
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 03-30-2017, 06:00 AM
shocker's Avatar
shocker shocker is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 550
Liked 1,427 Times in 666 Posts
Default

That's a large gap. But, wood is a porous material and has variability in dimension due to humidity changes. My new Marlin had "poor fitting wood" that some buyers rip about on message boards, but I waited mine out and after a few months the fitup was excellent. Not saying yours would close up sufficiently but anything made of kilned wood needs time to find it's final dimensions.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-30-2017, 06:44 AM
Collo Rosso's Avatar
Collo Rosso Collo Rosso is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 1,523
Likes: 1,267
Liked 2,021 Times in 760 Posts
Default

I'd call S&W, but if they wanted the gun sent in I wouldn't bother. For me those grips would be off pretty quick anyway.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #8  
Old 03-30-2017, 07:35 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is offline
US Veteran
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,701
Likes: 12,849
Liked 39,436 Times in 10,034 Posts
Default

If S&W didn't sent you new stocks and you want to use those it should be an easy fix. Place some 40 to 80 grit sand paper on something real flat and hold even pressure on the stock panel and slide it back and forth on paper. Keep turning the panel so you don't move it the same way, this will help keep it flat. Try it after a few strokes each way. Once its closer go to like 220 sand paper for a little bit. Only trouble might be if the emblems have metal backing washers that are flush with current wood.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 03-30-2017, 07:40 AM
sakoluvr sakoluvr is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 24
Likes: 1
Liked 24 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Call S&W. They will take care of it. Don't re-fit them yourself on a new gun.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 03-30-2017, 08:27 AM
SLT223's Avatar
SLT223 SLT223 is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,309
Likes: 2,722
Liked 5,054 Times in 1,442 Posts
Default

That's pretty much how I've seen all new ones: the ones I own, and the in shops. Old inhouse made S&W grips fit like a glove. The issue seems to be the Altamont grips, not the frame dimensions.

Last edited by SLT223; 03-30-2017 at 08:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-30-2017, 08:37 AM
def686 def686 is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Vermont
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Liked 102 Times in 36 Posts
Default

Dang, I just ordered some Super Rosewood boot-grips from Altamont for my 686, if they fit like that I will be bummed.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-30-2017, 10:29 AM
cowboy4evr cowboy4evr is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: for now ,Texas
Posts: 2,741
Likes: 186
Liked 3,300 Times in 1,525 Posts
Default

I agree with Steelslayer completely . Just fix it yourself and move on . It's really not a big deal , whether you fix it or just leave it . I can guarantee it won't effect the function nor the accuracy .
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-30-2017, 12:31 PM
Capttjk1 Capttjk1 is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: TX
Posts: 153
Likes: 856
Liked 224 Times in 77 Posts
Default

I have 20+ S&W revolvers. Almost all either came with or I have ordered Altamont grips for. I have never had anything less than a perfect fit with any of them. If the grips you received with your 36 don't fit, I would say that is unusual, not the norm with Altamont grips. At least based on my experience. Call S&W, I am sure they will make it right for you.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-30-2017, 04:26 PM
zogger's Avatar
zogger zogger is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 733
Likes: 28
Liked 23 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Cal S&W! If you don't tell them, they won't have a chance to make things right for you.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-30-2017, 04:32 PM
richcory's Avatar
richcory richcory is offline
US Veteran
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: IL
Posts: 1,064
Likes: 1,986
Liked 2,356 Times in 560 Posts
Default

Nice groups

Cory
__________________
Cory
SWCA #3015 SWHF #465
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-31-2017, 12:40 AM
Matt40's Avatar
Matt40 Matt40 is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 25
Likes: 2
Liked 29 Times in 11 Posts
Arrow Going Back for New Grips

I spoke with customer service today and we both decided it would be best to return my 36 for new grips. CS offered to send new grips to me in the mail, but I didn't want to take the chance that the new grips might not fit properly and I would be in the same situation again. Inconvenient for me somewhat, but I still have other handguns I can shoot in the meantime. And BTW, my model 36 Classic performed perfectly at the range today--a box of 50 for the initial break-in.

Thanks for all of the input.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #17  
Old 03-31-2017, 07:33 AM
twodog max twodog max is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Arkansas Ozarks
Posts: 1,935
Likes: 4,289
Liked 3,653 Times in 1,263 Posts
Default

Wood being what it is a previously live plant material even if laminated has a tendency to vary in its dimensions due to humidity, temperature etc. When grips are made and at what stage the wood is in at that time can cause variations in final dimensions. Don't take that to mean you should not want a better fit but wood is wood and it never really stops changing even if only a little. I seriously doubt the steel in the frame is the variable here.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-31-2017, 08:56 AM
prairieviper's Avatar
prairieviper prairieviper is offline
Member
Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return? Leave Well Enough Alone, or Return?  
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Mid USA-Cornfields & Cows
Posts: 640
Likes: 2,349
Liked 1,210 Times in 366 Posts
Default

Unacceptable. As others have said, give S&W a call.
__________________
"In God We Trust"
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Grandpa didn't leave me a gun, but he did leave me one heck of a big bullet! 357magster The Lounge 3 09-16-2016 08:03 PM
Leave it to CNN sipowicz The Lounge 41 11-10-2013 10:12 PM
I can't leave well enough alone... David LaPell The Lounge 6 10-27-2012 12:20 PM
When you have to leave it in the car justsumstuff Concealed Carry & Self Defense 13 12-09-2010 04:24 PM
S&W won't leave me alone! gunny4053 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 2 11-29-2009 05:04 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:14 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)