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Old 04-28-2017, 06:58 PM
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Hey all. This is my first post on this forum. As the thread title suggests I'm looking to pick up my first S&W .500 Magnum soon. My local gun store has every model from the 4 inch to the 8.3/8 barrel & some Performance Center models. Personally handled them all & liked the 4 & 8 inch models a lot. Unfortunately they do not have any to rent them here though. The biggest handgun for rent is a .50AE Desert Eagle. I'm interested in an Eagle too but leaning more towards the .500. The biggest handgun/revolver I've shot up till now is my 629 Classic .44 Magnum 5" BBL & it's my favorite gun to shoot out of what I own. Regularly go through up to 2 boxes of full power commercial .44 Mag each range trip. The clerk informed me that if I like shooting my 629 so much that I'd love the .500. Any suggestions or tips/advice about which model to go with or anything about properly shooting these beasts before I run out & get one?
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The 50 AE Desert Eagle I shot, with factory Hornady 300gr XTP loads, was a puddy cat compared to a 500 S&W.

A 44 Mag is nothing like shooting a 500 either.

I'm a short barrel guy. I've got the 3-1/2" ES & my son has a 4". (The 4" is only 3" of rifled barrel & 1" of comp.)

Which ever you choose hopefully you handload because that's the only real way to enjoy the 500 to it fullest, & the cheapest .

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Old 04-29-2017, 04:22 AM
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The 50 AE Desert Eagle I shot, with factory Hornady 300gr XTP loads, was a puddy cat compared to a 500 S&W.

A 44 Mag is nothing like shooting a 500 either.

I'm a short barrel guy. I've got the 3-1/2" ES & my son has a 4". (The 4" is only 3" of rifled barrel & 1" of comp.)

Which ever you choose hopefully you handload because that's the only real way to enjoy the 500 to it fullest, & the cheapest .



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Thank you! The DE being a puddy tat in comparison doesn't surprise me. Makes me more excited to shoot the .500 to be honest. I agree with the short barrels. I really liked the 4 inch but was thinking the 8 inch may be more manageable. That & the added velocity. Reloading is the plan, but that won't start till probably the end of the year. Maybe it would be good to start with some 275 GR Magtechs or 300 GR Hornady's as the first rounds. 1 round at a time as well.
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Old 04-29-2017, 05:10 AM
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Hi 629Classic.44,

Sounds to me like you are pretty committed to getting one! Have any other members at your local gun range not got one so you could at least compare to the 44 magnum first?


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A friend purchased a 500 and brought it down to my house to shoot. I fired 3 rounds and handed it back to him. I am in no way recoil shy..but that thing just plain hurt,and the muzzle blast was like a Howitzer. It sure crushed the concrete blocks I was shooting at,but so does a 44 magnum with a LOT less drama.They say bigger is better..but not always when it comes to firearms..
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What you get depends on what you plan to use it for. If for range use only, consider a 6 inch with a compensator. For hunting, 6" or longer, with or w/o the compensator. For silhouettes, long barrels give better sight alignment. For general fun and carry in the woods as protection against large critters, the 4" is good. Of course none of this means you only have to buy one!

BTW: The clerk is full of ****. Just because you enjoy the 44 mag does not mean you will the 500. They are two entirely different animals.
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I just bought a SW 500 4 inch model 10 days ago. I have been to the range twice already. Although I didn't blast off that many i can say it does pack a punch. With a full load of h110 powder and a 440 grain bullet it is punishing. However a 300gr hornady behind a full load of power pistol is very manageable. I mean you'll know your shooting a big gun, no doubt; as will everyone else at the range.

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Sounds to me like you are pretty committed to getting one! Have any other members at your local gun range not got one so you could at least compare to the 44 magnum first?


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Hey! Unfortunately they do not. I've asked around at my local range & no one seems to own one.
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Hey! Unfortunately they do not. I've asked around at my local range & no one seems to own one.


In that case, best of luck in your endeavours and hopefully you can tell us all which model you buy and how you get on with it! Happy shooting!


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What you get depends on what you plan to use it for. If for range use only, consider a 6 inch with a compensator. For hunting, 6" or longer, with or w/o the compensator. For silhouettes, long barrels give better sight alignment. For general fun and carry in the woods as protection against large critters, the 4" is good. Of course none of this means you only have to buy one!

BTW: The clerk is full of ****. Just because you enjoy the 44 mag does not mean you will the 500. They are two entirely different animals.
As for right now it would just be for range only. & then maybe down the line for hunting. They had a good selection but not the 6 inch with compensator. Didn't get to see how that one felt in the hands. I got to check out the 4", 7.5" PC, 8.3/8" & 10.5" PC. Hahah yeah, doesn't need to just be one! But if more get added to my collection that will be later on. Just starting with one first. Lmao. Thank you for pointing out the clerk. I didn't take his word for it when he told me that.
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Blowncar,

I can imagine the 440GR's pack a real good punch! Good to know the 300gr Hornady's feel more manageable. The description you give of knowing you're shooting a big gun & everyone else at the range knowing as well sounds like fun to me.
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Thank you! Yes I will do both for sure.
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All I can say is buy what you want and go from there. I have never shot one and would only do so if I got the opportunity to try one someone else owned. Everyone I have talked to says they are a handful even with the 6 inch barrel. The 4 inch would be a beast. Good luck and start your wrist curls ! BTW I would look for a used one that someone bought and can't handle. I have seen a few at gun shows etc guys were selling them to free up cash. They bought them to deer hunt and found it was too much gun for them to shoot accurately.
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I posted about a new 500 that I received for my 50th; bias alert!

As other posts have noted in this thread and others (search is your friend), the 500 is a unique platform and round.

After shooting my 8-3/8" 500 S&W Magnum, others pale in comparison. I will be reloading so I can feed this addiction without selling organs to pay the bills. There's something about the scale of this firearm, and the rounds it launches that just works. I'm 6'-4" and 220#, easily palm a basketball and bowl with a 16# ball.

The 500 FITS me.

Accuracy is limited by my skill, or lack there of.

Power and recoil varies and can be influenced by loading; wad cutter cream puffs all the way to Mammoth slayers.

I cannot speak highly enough of this platform.

Experimenting with optics is a new adventure for me on this beast. I'm running an Aimpoint H-2... they say their scopes aren't bothered by the recoil - it's the mount that is the weak link. So far, I've found the aimpoint picatinny mount isn't up to the challenge. I'm on an American Defense QD mount now and it's promising.
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I am in the group that has a 4" for novelty and brown bear protection, but mostly novelty. FWIW, it carryies well in an Elpaso Tanker holster and it's fun to reload for.
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They are a hoot to shoot. I owned several when we lived in Alaska. Plan on taking up reloading unless you have a ton of extra cash to spend on ammo.
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Flipside,

That's a great 50th present lol. Your enthusiasm for the 500 is awesome. I'm only 6'-0" & 180lbs but I have large hands. The grip fit like a glove. As everyone else has said reloading is the best way to get the most out of it. So that will be something I do later in the year. Till then though, it'll be factory ammo & hoping to take it out to the range around twice a month.
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Here's what I know now after purchasing my 12" 460XVR. First off for what my needs were I made the perfect choice which was a big bore target handgun capable of reaching out to a max of 200 meters. I have found that accurately shooting my 460 beyond 100 yds is extremely challenging. 75 to 100 yds with a scope is very do-able but will take some practice to shoot consistiantly at that distance. The percieved flinch will be an issue in the beginning but practice , practice and the flinch will subside. I also choce the 460 over the 500 because I was going to commit to handloading and the 460XVR uses .45 cal bullets which are far more plentiful and cheaper than the .500. I think if you plan on hunting I suggest the 10" with an optic as it will be the best compromise of longer range potential , yet still carry decent in the woods. The 8-3/8 is the best "do-all" but will give up a slight amount of accuracy and velocity. I would not get a 4" if you think you will be hunting at longer 50+ yd distances. The very short sight radius will be an issue, and the short barreled big bore's pack a NASTY recoil wallop ! Here's my PC 460:


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I have a 6.5" 500. Nice compromise in length. I'm a reloader trying different grains. Right now I have shot the 350 grain which is pleasant. I also loaded some 500 grain bullets.

As Road_Clam mentioned, the 460 is a great option. I don't plan to shoot other loads in mine, as I already have a 454 Casull. My 460 has an 8 3/8" barrel. It CAN Shoot 460, 454 Casull and 45 Colt. It's a great pistol.
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Road Clam,

I liked what you had to say about the .460. I'm taking what you said into consideration. Especially barrel lengths. I know that if I get a .500 first I'm going to want a .460 later down the road too. It truly is an addiction Your 12" PC .460 is a great looking piece.
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I have a 6.5" 500. Nice compromise in length. I'm a reloader trying different grains. Right now I have shot the 350 grain which is pleasant. I also loaded some 500 grain bullets.

As Road_Clam mentioned, the 460 is a great option. I don't plan to shoot other loads in mine, as I already have a 454 Casull. My 460 has an 8 3/8" barrel. It CAN Shoot 460, 454 Casull and 45 Colt. It's a great pistol.
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Just for a little extra encouragement, go for it! I finally bought one back in December and it is a blast (literally) to shoot.
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The extra encouragement is appreciated! I will be running out to get one soon & will share with you guys on here when that happens
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If you do not hand load. Learn to do so, the gun is cheaper than the ammo.
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I have owned and shot both the Desert Eagle 50AE as well as a 4" SW500 Magnum. I also own 2 different .44mags that I love. As said by other members whoever told you that shooting a .44mag and SW500 is full of ****. Zero comparison as you might expect. Long story short, I sold the .50AE but kept my SW500. Not a plinking gun but great weapons for making cantaloupe mist.

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I would read up on the 500 and the 460, I'm a BIG 44mag guy and I found the transition to the 460 VERY easy! I don't want to talk you out of the 500, but you seriously need to shoot it before you purchase it. Since I am planning on hunting with mine, I went with an 8 3/8" XVR and a 7.5" XVR PC.


You should really shoot more than one of the .500's...they are all going to shoot differently. In my case there is little difference in the felt recoil between my two wheel guns, but the weight of the barrel on the 8" model is further back (the barrel is lighter) than the slab sided 7.5", the 7.5" has the weight better distributed throughout... which I tend to prefer (but I have a lot of slab sided revolvers so knew what to expect).
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Hey! Unfortunately they do not. I've asked around at my local range & no one seems to own one.
And the reason no one around there owns one.....??
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629Classic -> where are you? Can you give us a state? There may be a S&W forum member close enough that would let you try their 500. Just a thought!
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629Classic -> where are you? Can you give us a state? There may be a S&W forum member close enough that would let you try their 500. Just a thought!
I live in Illinois!
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And the reason no one around there owns one.....??
The answers I got were either never shot one or never thought to own one.
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What are you hunting? Whitetail? Grizz? Cape buffalo? This would be a big consideration for me in choosing. If hunting is a primary use for the gun. And if so, as others have said I would Probably look at the .460 first. If the answer is whitetail, I'd probably just stick with a .44 mag, but you'll certainly be able to reach out much farther with the .460, but it's your world.
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What are you hunting? Whitetail? Grizz? Cape buffalo? This would be a big consideration for me in choosing. If hunting is a primary use for the gun. And if so, as others have said I would Probably look at the .460 first. If the answer is whitetail, I'd probably just stick with a .44 mag, but you'll certainly be able to reach out much farther with the .460, but it's your world.


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Mr. Harry, CDR Glock,

I'm looking at the .460 more than before thanks to your suggestions. As for hunting deer yes, as well as bigger game animals. But .460 or .500 either would see more range time & practice than field use. At least until next year.
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My Son had a 50cal.Desert Eagle and it bruised My hand so bad that I could not even shoot My 38 for two weeks.
He also has a Smith and Wesson 500 that was a dream to shoot.
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I'm looking at the .460 more than before thanks to your suggestions. As for hunting deer yes, as well as bigger game animals. But .460 or .500 either would see more range time & practice than field use. At least until next year.
Dude, I've thought about it a lot myself; going up from .44 mag that is. For hunting and..... whatever. I'm not trying to push you off the 500. I haven't even shot one so how could I? But after looking at them both, I know the next rung up the ladder would be an 8 3/8's .460 XVR for me. Devasting speed/velocity. Flat. Fastest round in the handgun world, right? Or something like that. I know sure as s--t it would do the job on anything I could lay the sights on at LONG WAY off. And I don't see a safari hunt for White Rhuno in my near future. U think the .460 gets over-looked a little, in the great 'magnum supremacy' discussion. But this is merely my suggestion and opinion. Your world.
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I shot both a 500 and a 460 8 3/8" before I dropped the coin on a new 8 3/8" 460XVR. I have a 6.5" 629 Classic and I liked the fact that I could shoot 3 different calibers through the 460. I like to show new people at our indoor range 3 rounds of 45 long Colt, followed by 2 handloads of 47.0 grains of H-110 pushing a 240XTP for the shock and awe factor. So far I have not had a chance to take a deer with this gun yet, but it will happen hopefully soon. I choose the 460 for its versatility. Good luck on whatever you decide to buy.
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The Desert Eagle 50ae Has no kick. The 500 and the 460 both kick 500 is a lot harder. You need to try each before you buy.
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My Son had a 50cal.Desert Eagle and it bruised My hand so bad that I could not even shoot My 38 for two weeks.
He also has a Smith and Wesson 500 that was a dream to shoot.
Really? That's the first time I've read someone saying that. What model 500 did he have?
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Mr.Harry,

No I know you're not trying to push me off the .500. It does seem like the .460 is a more logical step up over the .44 mag thanks to the caliber choices. It does have a lot going for it & would be able to take any game you'd want to bag basically. I do know that if it were a .460 first & I loved it I'd want to pick up the .500 next. Lol. Ahh. So many wheel guns that make me want to open up my wallet.
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It may help to say that I won't be making this purchase for another 2 months or so, just trying to gather as much info as possible for myself before seriously looking to pick anything up. I'm not done trying to find a range/person who has both the .460 & .500 available to tent or try first.
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*Go with the 500, why???? Because they don't make a 600!!

Took my 500 4inch out to play again. Man it just gets funner and funner each time.

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No I know you're not trying to push me off the .500. It does seem like the .460 is a more logical step up over the .44 mag thanks to the caliber choices. It does have a lot going for it & would be able to take any game you'd want to bag basically. I do know that if it were a .460 first & I loved it I'd want to pick up the .500 next. Lol. Ahh. So many wheel guns that make me want to open up my wallet.


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If you reload, there are so many combinations you can do with either, but the 460 is a Flat Shooter. I was freehanding hitting a gong at 150 yards.


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*Go with the 500, why???? Because they don't make a 600!!

Took my 500 4inch out to play again. Man it just gets funner and funner each time.


Do you reload? What grains are you blasting through yours?


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I have a 6.5" 500. Nice compromise in length. I'm a reloader trying different grains. Right now I have shot the 350 grain which is pleasant. I also loaded some 500 grain bullets.

As Road_Clam mentioned, the 460 is a great option. I don't plan to shoot other loads in mine, as I already have a 454 Casull. My 460 has an 8 3/8" barrel. It CAN Shoot 460, 454 Casull and 45 Colt. It's a great pistol.
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Dude, I've thought about it a lot myself; going up from .44 mag that is. For hunting and..... whatever. I'm not trying to push you off the 500. I haven't even shot one so how could I? But after looking at them both, I know the next rung up the ladder would be an 8 3/8's .460 XVR for me. Devasting speed/velocity. Flat. Fastest round in the handgun world, right? Or something like that. I know sure as s--t it would do the job on anything I could lay the sights on at LONG WAY off. And I don't see a safari hunt for White Rhuno in my near future. U think the .460 gets over-looked a little, in the great 'magnum supremacy' discussion. But this is merely my suggestion and opinion. Your world.
This is something I hear a lot. Like the old 270- 06 issue. As with the rifle, when the projectiles weigh the same the 500 is always faster. You must not get caught up in the apples and oranges thing. A 500 that weighs the same as a 460 is faster. It's about case capacity.
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Fastest round in the handgun world, right?
No, not even close. My Remington XP100 is capable of reaching 2800 to 3000 fps depending on the bullet, as are many Thompson single shots in various calibers. That's not to take anything away from the 460, as it is the fastest in a 44 caliber, just not the fastest when other calibers are considered.
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The 50 AE Desert Eagle I shot, with factory Hornady 300gr XTP loads, was a puddy cat compared to a 500 S&W.

A 44 Mag is nothing like shooting a 500 either.

I'm a short barrel guy. I've got the 3-1/2" ES & my son has a 4". (The 4" is only 3" of rifled barrel & 1" of comp.)

Which ever you choose hopefully you handload because that's the only real way to enjoy the 500 to it fullest, & the cheapest .

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After viewing the picture of your ES I had to get my 5" JRC out to compare the muzzles. The rifling in my barrel runs right up to the crown whereas yours seems to be recessed(1/8"-1/4"). Now, I know the ESs were not made until after I bought mine from John so, would you happen to know the reason for this difference?
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Don't compromise. Get both. That's what I did.Looking to get a .500 Magnum, suggestions/advice?Looking to get a .500 Magnum, suggestions/advice?Looking to get a .500 Magnum, suggestions/advice?

If you reload, there are so many combinations you can do with either, but the 460 is a Flat Shooter. I was freehanding hitting a gong at 150 yards.


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Hahah that's probably what will happen 😂 But one will come before the other. Free hand shooting to 150 yards is impressive! Not sure my accuracy is that good yet.
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*Go with the 500, why???? Because they don't make a 600!!

Took my 500 4inch out to play again. Man it just gets funner and funner each time.
HAH, true. Hard to argue with that Glad you're having fun with your 4inch!
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