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Im on the fence over the 67 vs the 10. I really like the blued #10, but on a 4" barrel i'd like a rear sight. The 67 has them but is stainless. The model 15 would be the answer, but no longer available. Any pros and cons on either model are appreciated. I have a few larger 357's, but looking for a 38 only for a younger shooter. Thanks, Ron.
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Either will do you fine. Consider a used M10, 15, 64, or 67. You can get some a screaming deals in some locales & on line. I found a M15, 10, & 64. I use the 64 as my carry, used the M15 for IDPA successfully and my daughter has done the same with the M10- now hers.

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I carried my 67 for 3 years back in the mid-70's. Loved that gun. Since I live in Florida with the salt air & water stainless steel holds up with no issues long term as blue finished guns may not hold up as well long term.
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Thanks guys keep it coming. A question for the S&W guru's. What year was the Model 15 stopped, and what dash was it at the time? Thanks
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The Model 15 ran for 50 years, 1949 through 1999. Now you can buy one again as a "Classic" model. That started a few years ago. That's how I bought my Model 27, as a "Classic".

A 4" Model 10 will work perfectly well. If you think you can shoot better with a Model 67's adjustable sights that is your call but I can assure you that a 4" Model 10 can do everything a Model 67 can do. Most of my Model 10s, and I admit to having too many (is that possible??? ), are snubbies. But I do have two 4" Model 10s. One is a typical, old, beat up Wells Fargo gun. At ten yards it can take the eye out of a fly. The other is a heavy barreled, somewhat rare, .357 Magnum. Using .38 Specials I scored my first perfect score on the Texas license to carry test, 250 out of 250. It just takes practice.....
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The stainless rear site was only used on the 67 from the time it was introduced in 1972 until around 1975 (ish) so they have become collectable.

Later 67's and 67-1's have a black rear site , I would get the 67 over the 10 for collectability, if the SS rear site bothers you it can always be darkened with a candle or the blade can be upgraded to a new black unit with white outline from co's like Brownells,
Also red nail polish works on the front site plenty good especially over a base coat of white.
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I have both a recent 67 and one of the 15 "Classic" models and both are excellent revolvers. I sent my 67 off to Frank Glenn for an action tune and I can't say enough about how wonderful this gun is but the 15 is more accurate and has a single action pull like nothing I've ever felt. You can't go wrong with either one but you may want to look at the new 66 as well, it's a heck of a nice gun and gives you the .357 capability if you ever want it. I had the Smith Custom Shop do an action package on mine and it's quite nice.
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I have a 67 no dash 4". It is my wife's favorite. I prefer over it, a heavy barrel, 10, 64, 13, or 65. They just shoot well for me and feel right. Only my opinion! Bob
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My bet is that you would not be disappointed with any of your options. That said, if you'd prefer a 4", 38 in blue, it shouldn't be hard to find a decent model 15. There were ALLOT of them used in the LE and security world back in the day. Prices are usually decent on them too.
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I have a pre-Model 15 5-screw. It's over 60 years old, but it is a sweet little shooter. A previous owner probably had it refinished ages ago. Check it out. You'd be surprised how inexpensive a older K-38 Combat Masterpiece can be found, and how well they were put together.
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In case you're interested, there may still be a few New Model 67-5's floating around out on the market. I bought one a couple of months ago. I just told my local gun store to specify "one piece barrel" when he started searching for one, and I had one in four days.

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I don't understand your quandary. If you want stainless, and you should for a real world gun, buy the M-67 from the classic production period. This also gets you adj. sights, which your young shooter will need until they determine which loads to use.

I don't see a M-10 at all for a person with one gun.Get the stainless M-64 if you don't feel a need for target sights. I had a M-64 that I sold and got a M-66, because I wanted the option of .357 power. But it pointed and shot very well. It was an excellent basic service gun. And ex-police M-64's are readily available at reasonable prices.

I think you're overthinking this or just want to post and generate discussion. I wish all gun choice questions were as simple as yours.
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The model 67 is the superior firearm compared to the model 10. Better sights and more durable finish.
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The Model 15 ran for 50 years, 1949 through 1999. Now you can buy one again as a "Classic" model. That started a few years ago. That's how I bought my Model 27, as a "Classic".

A 4" Model 10 will work perfectly well. If you think you can shoot better with a Model 67's adjustable sights that is your call but I can assure you that a 4" Model 10 can do everything a Model 67 can do. Most of my Model 10s, and I admit to having too many (is that possible??? ), are snubbies. But I do have two 4" Model 10s. One is a typical, old, beat up Wells Fargo gun. At ten yards it can take the eye out of a fly. The other is a heavy barreled, somewhat rare, .357 Magnum. Using .38 Specials I scored my first perfect score on the Texas license to carry test, 250 out of 250. It just takes practice.....
I agree with Yoda. As far as functionality and accuracy, there is no difference. Both are service revolver K frames. I have two M10-8s (heavy barrel) and a 67 no dash (matte stainless adjustable sights and tapered barrel). Both 10-8s are ex police revolvers. I think my 67 was a nightstand gun, the DA action is still pretty tight. All three have excellent SA actions.

One 10-8 is nickel and one is 70% blue. Both M10s are as accurate as my 67. I find that the fixed sights on the 10-8 gives as good of a sight picture as the 67 provided you properly focus on the front sight. If you use 158gr .38Spl ammo S&W regulated the M10 for, the M10 shoots to POA and there is no need to adjust sights.

I prefer the heavy barrel to the tapered barrel, but that is just me. My first revolver was a 686 that I purchased as an adult and I'm used to the weight and the "hang". With a younger shooter the tapered barrel on a 67 or an earlier M10 than mine may reduce fatigue and make the sessions more enjoyable. Also the sights on the 67 may be easier for a new shooter to sight with and that may be another driving consideration. As much as I like my M10s, with a new or younger shooter the M67/M15 may be the better choice due to less fatigue from barrel weight and a more defined sight picture

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Thanks to all who replied. I made several calls today and was able to find a 67-5 still NIB. It should be here by Monday at the latest. Lots of good choices suggested here. Thats what I was looking for. NOT as Texas Star wrote," just want to post and generate discussion". Really?? Is it unusual for people to ask questions and find info on things that they maybe weren't aware were still available on a forum website? Again, thanks for almost all the great info. Will post a picture when it arrives. Ron
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Thanks to all who replied. I made several calls today and was able to find a 67-5 still NIB. It should be here by Monday at the latest. Lots of good choices suggested here. Thats what I was looking for. NOT as Texas Star wrote," just want to post and generate discussion". Really?? Is it unusual for people to ask questions and find info on things that they maybe weren't aware were still available on a forum website? Again, thanks for almost all the great info. Will post a picture when it arrives. Ron
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Congratulations on your new Model 67-5! I was wondering if you would do me a favor when you get your new gun. I'm curious to know what the factory ship date is on the label on your gun when you receive it. If you don't mind, please post the that date. As you can see on my label in the photo in my post above, the ship date is listed directly above the model number. Mine was 111716, or Nov, 17, 2016. The reason I'm so curious is the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson stated the 67-5 was replaced by the 67-6 in 2004!!!

By the way, I have posted a request for a correction in the SCSW 4 Corrections Thread. http://smith-wessonforum.com/139613258-post35.html

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Picked it up today. Found a NIB 67-5. As others have said, its a very solid piece. Fit and finish are above what I was expecting. All in all, well done. Ron
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All I can say is I absolutely love my 67-6.
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I couldn't decide this exact question.
I found a 67-1 locally.
And a new 10-14 in here in California.

It seems that S&W revolvers should be some of the most common guns in used and consignment shops, but they're not that easy to find here.

At any rate, I ended up purchasing both.

I think they'll end up a little redundant, but the older revolvers are really cool. The 10-14 will hopefully be a good shooter.

Do any of you CCW these 4" K frames?
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Had the chance to go shooting yesterday. Took the 67-5 and it was flawless. Cleaned it and accuracy was right on. Put a set of Altamont target stocks on and felt great and can't wait for a follow up session. Ron
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I couldn't decide this exact question.
I found a 67-1 locally.
And a new 10-14 in here in California.

It seems that S&W revolvers should be some of the most common guns in used and consignment shops, but they're not that easy to find here.

At any rate, I ended up purchasing both.

I think they'll end up a little redundant, but the older revolvers are really cool. The 10-14 will hopefully be a good shooter.

Do any of you CCW these 4" K frames?
When in doubt, purchase both

I have never tried to carry a 4" K frame, but often carry a 3". With a good belt I almost forget I have it on.
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I just picked up a Very nice 67 no dash. Stainless sights and all. The gun has been a safe Queen for most of it's life and looks to have been shot very very little. If it shoots as good as the model 15 that I picked up a few months ago I'm gonna be a happy camper. I'll post up a photo when I get back to the homestead.
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Had the chance to go shooting yesterday. Took the 67-5 and it was flawless. Cleaned it and accuracy was right on. Put a set of Altamont target stocks on and felt great and can't wait for a follow up session. Ron
Nice looking piece. The barrel looks thicker then the one on my 67-1.
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Nice looking piece. The barrel looks thicker then the one on my 67-1.
The later model 15s and 67s have heavier barrels rather than the tapered ones in their earlier iterations.

I just picked up a Model 15-5 from about 1984 with the heavier barrel and being post 1982 it doesn't have the barrel pin.

Basically the Model 15 evolved into a 4-inch Model 14 which traditionally was not 4-inches. Some years ago I did own
a 4-inch 14 that had been a special police department order.

With numbered Smith revolvers, they often evolved. A "classic"
was the Model 10-6 of which some were .357s with recessed
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I couldn't decide this exact question.
I found a 67-1 locally.
And a new 10-14 in here in California.

It seems that S&W revolvers should be some of the most common guns in used and consignment shops, but they're not that easy to find here.

At any rate, I ended up purchasing both.

I think they'll end up a little redundant, but the older revolvers are really cool. The 10-14 will hopefully be a good shooter.

Do any of you CCW these 4" K frames?
I have had a few Gun Store employees tell me that if they get a good used S&W Revolver that it doesn't stay in the case for more than two days. People here snag the good ones up quickly.

I have actually been one of those people twice.

I snagged a 629 No Dash 4" right as it went into the case, as well as a 4" 586 as the previous owner brought it into the store. I was doing paperwork on a transfer for a Wilson Combat, saw the 586 and 3 686s get walked in, saw the guy unzip the rug with the 586. I walked right over, explained that I was sorry to interrupt, but said I want that 586, I'd like to call dibs in it, and they said sure.

So guys like me are the problem :-)

Case in point, I truly honestly am good for a while on the guns that I have. I have a great mix of Revolvers, 1911s and modern Sig Sauers. I have a free day to myself today, so what am I going to do? Hit up 3 or 4 Gun Stores that I have never been to so that I can see if they have any cool Smith and Wessons.

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... I have never tried to carry a 4" K frame, but often carry a 3". With a good belt I almost forget I have it on.
I recently bought a 3" heavy barrel K frame for carry (Model 547 in 9mm) and while heavy compared to my J frames it is comfortable with a good belt and holster carried AISW.



A dab of "White Out" (typewriter correction fluid) on the front sight makes for quick acquisition



The K frame is very well balanced and comes up to point of aim as naturally as pointing a finger. Even with the stout recoil of the 9mm round it is far superior in sustained fire (Mozambique Drill triple tap) to any other carry gun I have. Well worth the weight and bulk of the K frame to have in hand if you really need a firearm.

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