I have taken my new to me Model 60 PS out a couple of times and it seems to be shooting consistently high and to the right. I have adjusted the sights as far as their travel allows. I'm now just right of center and a tad high but have run out of sight adjustment.

Visually I can't see anything wrong with the barrel. The test fired cartridge that came with the gun has a date of October 2013. Does anyone know if there were any issues with these or if there is anything that can be done?

Does it shoot high and right for other shooters as well?

Is the barrel clocked? That is, is it turned in so that the top (and the front sight) are vertical and it looks centered? My 60 Pro is one of the most accurate revolvers that I have and the sights are pretty much centered.

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Not trying to offend, just help. Are you new to shooting revolvers or a new shooter? Are you a leftie? If so, it could be a trigger finger issue. Too much or to little.

I'm a right handed shooter and have a 60 PS. I had to tighten down the sight assembly a few times because it comes loose, but mine shot to point of aim right out of the box after I got used to the gun. Hope this helps!

What distance and what ammo----it does make a difference.

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Groo here
Change the grip to one that fits.
Bench the gun.

I'll try to answer the questions more or less in order.
1. I will have another shooter try it out this week.
2. The front sight appears centered on top.
3. I'm right handed. I have a Model 66 that shoots very accurately for me.
4. Distance was about 15 feet. 125gr 38 hand loads and 158gr American Eagle Magnum loads. Same issue.
5. Tried both the factory grips and the VZ 320s. Same issue.
6. I'll see if the range has a bench I can borrow.

It could be entirely my issue but at 15 feet in single action I was off 4-5 inches.

I shoot my K frame just fine. I'm no sharp shooter but I can generally put everything inside the big circle without trying.

My results were also from shooting outdoors. I'll try indoors and have a a friend shoot it as well.

Does this look right?

^ it looks off to me.

Looks off to me as well. My new 617 had a similar problem. It was clocked to where with all adjustment I could not get it close.

I sent mine back at their expense . Returned in two weeks . Straightened barrel and changed rear sight. Even returned my original. And though I can't prove it, I swear they smoothed up the action.

When I took it to he range it grouped dead center .I would contact SW and send it in.

I would also send it in. Just from your photo it seems to be over tightened.

I sent a message to S&W Customer Service. We'll see how they reapond.

Your photo is not from top dead center. If it were, the barrel would show to be off even more.

It's hard to tell much by looking at it from the top. I always look at it dead-on at arm's length from the muzzle end (yes, unloaded of course) and can tell in an instant whether or not it's lined up or not.

All three of my J frames shoot about 1 1/2-2" high and to the right at about 7-10 yards. I can shoot acceptable groups of 4" ave. off hand,double action, rapid fire. So the conclusion: it is me not the guns. I discovered long ago, that to comfortably shoot my J frames, I use the pad of my trigger finger, and tend to "pull" the muzzle just slightly up and to the right. But I can live with it

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I've had the same experience, Years and I mean years ago talking the early 90's I sent a 686 6"classic hunter back because it was out of timing new out of the box.

The action was so different I took the side plate off and looked - I could clearly see where the friction points on the hammer had been polished to a shine.

They don't always do that I'm sure, but I think a couple of the old timers out at S&W take a lot of pride in their work.

It looks slightly over tightened to me. This moves the front sight to the left and tends to making it shoot to the right. But it doesn't look all that bad and it doesn't account for it shooting high.
Something else is going on. Groo may be right again.

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Always best to phone S&W CS.
Many report that email is not effective.

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Better picture from TDC.

It looks fairly straight to me. Look at it from the muzzle end, dead on, and see if the front sight blade looks torqued compared to the notch in the rear sight.

Looks off to me. Barrel too far counterclockwise viewed from the rear.

I'm looking at the ribs on the sight ramp compared to the ribs on the barrel. Also, look at the space on either side of the barrel to the beveled edge of the frame. Much smaller on the left than the right.

I tried to take a picture from the muzzle end. A difficult photograph to take but visually you can see that it's off.

Called Customer Service They sent me a prepaid shipping label.

I had the same problem with the exact model. Your barrel is clocked to 11 o'clock. I sent mine to the factory and they returned it with the barrel clocked to 1 o'clock. Traded it off to somebody who didn't care. Beautiful gun but not worth the trouble. Best, Joe

It is SO easy to index a barrel properly. All it takes is someone who gives a damn when they're putting it together. S&W and Ruger need to get their act straight! And their barrels straight.

I had the same issue, but high left on a new Model 60 Pro. Had the sights all the way down and over. Sent it back to S&W and they "adjusted the barrel" got it back and now it is dead center with the sights centered. Send it in and they will take care of it.

Here is my trail of returns with a 640-1 Pro Series model...

The revolver was new in the box as sent from S&W directly to me via my local gun shop. Among several other issues, the gun had an "over-clocked" barrel like yours.

Here is what I learned in the process of the four trips back to S&W and two new barrels being installed.

They initially untwisted the barrel enough to straighten it. However, as rounds are sent down the tube the rifling torques the barrel tighter and it returned to the original over-clocked position. Mine took about 6-8 month to re-twist to the original position. The original barrel shot about 3" low at 15 yards.

When I sent it back the second time they replace the original barrel. The new barrel was straight, but it shot about 6" lower than the point of aim at 15 yards. I sent it back again.

After the third trip to the mothership they replaced the barrel a second time and now it shoots to point of aim. They however forgot to etch "357 MAG" on the barrel and the tritium sights they put on this latest barrel were dead.

After the forth time back they finish production on this gun and it finally shoots where the sights point and all issues have been resolved. Did I mention it is advertised as a "Professional Series" gun?

Good luck with your revolver and getting it to shoot straight. Persistence pays off and based on my experience one time back may not be enough... It may take four! Let us know how thing go. As a bonus, at least S&W covers shipping both ways.

Edmo

On edit: Below is a video of me shooting my 640-1 Pro Series prior to the third trip back to the mothership.

Shooting My S&W 640 Pro - YouTube

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Miss the days of pinned barrels.

Don't worry - they've now got you covered with the 2-piece barrels. However, the 60-Pro doesn't have one.

Just got it back from S&W today. It appears to be aligned better. I'll have to see how it shoots.

Looks better. Let us know how she shoots.

DEFINITELY looks better/aligned correctly. If someone, anyone, couldn't see how it WAS NOT screwed on straight before, in the pics you provided, they are either blind as bats, or blindly loyal bats. That barrel was CANTED.

Keep an eye on the barrel alignment as you shoot the gun over the next few months...

From your original pictures the barrel was "over tightened" in the frame. To fix this they possibly just loosened the barrel slightly to achieve proper alignment.

When you fire the gun the rifling spins the bullet in one direction while the barrel is twisted in the other direction. The direction the barrel attempts to rotate is towards "tight" so every time you shoot the gun you are actually tightening the barrel.

The problem is if they only untwisted the barrel to straighten it, as you shoot the gun it will slowly rotate back to the original clocked position. This is what happened with my 640's original barrel.

I'm not sure what gunsmithing/machining tricks are required to keep this from happening, but hopefully they did it correctly on your revolver.

Take it to the range and make sure it hits where it should and watch for rotation of the barrel over the next few months.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Edmo

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