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I have a serious 'want' for a TRR8.
Local place has them for $1199 and Sunday they are having a 10% off loyalty sale. Plus maybe the 30% S&W rebate may apply?
Hard to say no!

Anyone else have one? How do you like it compared to a 4" or 6" 686?

Anyone put a spring kit in it and do you feel it was worth it? I already have a extra kit.

Has anyone tried a mini reflex style red dot on one and how did you like it?
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I have a serious 'want' for a TRR8.
Local place has them for $1199 and Sunday they are having a 10% off loyalty sale. Plus maybe the 30% S&W rebate may apply?
Hard to say no!

Anyone else have one? How do you like it compared to a 4" or 6" 686?

Anyone put a spring kit in it and do you feel it was worth it? I already have a extra kit.

Has anyone tried a mini reflex style red dot on one and how did you like it?
I traded a 6” 686 toward one a month ago, and don’t regret it. That should tell you what I think. It shoots great — better than me! The SA trigger is perfect and the DA is pretty close to that, at least IMO. I’m not one to mess with internals, so don’t have an opinion on that. Only change from stock I made was to replace the front sight with a fiber optic. One nice thing about these guns is it pops out without tools.

Only negative is the extractor rod came out the third time I shot it. I sent it back for warranty repair. It was there for about a week, so they took care of the problem quickly. Fingers crossed that they took care of the problem correctly.

I’m not trying to make you scared of buying one, but thought you might want to know. I fully expect it to come back perfect and it will definitely be a keeper if it does.
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Great info, thanks!
The 686 so far is my favorite.
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I've had a TRR8 for a couple of years. The 5" barrel balances well in appearance and handling. I replace the gold dot front blade with a red fiber optic for better visibility on the range. There's no need to replace springs. The DA and SA actions are very well tuned at the factory. The DA breaks at 10.5 lbs, SA at 3.0 lbs. It comes with barrel weights, but they're still in the box, and will remain there.

It works equally well with moon clips or bare. The accuracy of the 2-piece barrel is superb. I understand it may need tightening every few thousand rounds, but I haven't got there yet. Torquing the barrel is a Mr. Goodwrench job.

At 35.5 oz, the recoil is very manageable, even will full magnum loads. I wouldn't mind carrying it as a woods gun, but there aren't many holsters to fit.

Thumbs up if you want to buy one. You'll love it.
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Old 07-26-2018, 07:16 PM
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Personally... no thanks. Don't like sleeved barrels or all the holes on it. My 686's are all the best made, especially the pre-lock ones in 7 shot. Like blue jeans and T-shirts I am just fine where I am.


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I changed the front sight as Neumann.
I use it Revo division in USPSA. It is a fine shooter!
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Can’t go wrong with a 686, and I might pick up a 4” some day. I found the 6” a little unbalanced — one reason I decided to try the TRRR8. It feels more balanced to me. But everyone is different.

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I love my "L" frames and wanted to like the TRR8 when I handled it at Cabela's, but it is too big for my hands.

Good luck.
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Great input, thanks.
I have a 6" 686 and am on the hunt for a decent 4" version.

The TRR8 felt good in my hand.

I have a gold bead sight on a 629 that I can see well.
Which fiber optic are some of you switching to and do you mainly shoot indoors?
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Since it's a SERIOUS want, get one. Life is short.

Myself, my 686, Governor and 69 satisfy my revolver lust.

Good luck and let us know what happens!!
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I have the R8, the fraternal twin to the TRR8, and I love it. It handles and shoots ridiculously well. I also changed the front sight to a fiber optic along with changing the rear to a white outline sight.

The trigger is pretty doggone good out of the box since it has the performance center mainspring along whatever action tuning the performance center does. From the factory it was about a 11-12 lb DA pull but very, very smooth and a nice 4-4.5 SA pull. I imagine after break-in the factory setup would settle in at about 10lb/3.5lb but... I put in a Wolff 14 lb trigger return spring and have shot it quite a bit as well as a pretty fair amount of dry firing. The trigger is absolutely fantastic now with a 8-8.5 DA pull and a 2.5-2.75 SA pull. The trigger reset/return is plenty forceful. And, since I did not touch the mainspring it has had zero problems with light strikes.

The other crazy thing about the R8 is that felt recoil is extremely low despite the lightweight frame. I have shot 180 grain hard cast Double Tap rounds out of it and they don't hurt at all whereas my heavier GP100 causes a little hand stinging shooting the same round. I can't explain it but it's true for me.
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I have a R8 which is essentially a TRR8 with fixed underlug. I gave $750 OTD for it ( used and missing box) at a LGS two years ago. Couldn't walk away. It's a cool looking revolver ( in a pittbull kinda way) and a hoot to shoot with an optic on it. That said, if I were looking for "one gun" to run without an optic, I think it would be my all steel 627PC or 686Pro. Both in 5". Not a huge fan of alloy framed guns that won't be carried.
Here is mine shortly after coming home. It does wear a smaller/lighter reflex sight these days.



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Again from my enjoyable experience with my (not quite so decked out as above) Model R8 - Go for it!
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I'd recommend looking a bit more. I just bought an R8 off Gunbroker new with box, paperwork, etc for $900.

I put a 15 pound rebound spring in mine. It helps the DA a lot.
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This is America.

In America it does not matter if you need something or not, so go ahead, take advantage of that discount and satisfy that "WANT"

I feel that the Model 327 TRR8 is a fantastic revolver.


Not only do the tensioned barrels of the Model 327s shoot incredibly well, the gun is well balanced and looks good too

While mine is only 11 years old, I expect it to have a long and healthy life

Plus if you have to carry all day, it is a pleasure to holster an 8 shot N-frame that weighs in like a 4" Model 19/66.

Compared to a 686? Truth is I never warmed up to the 586/686 family of revolvers. Probably because I had already been shooting 6" Model 27s and Pythons for more than a decade when the 586 was introduced. Just never saw the need for a 586/868. However every rule has an exception and I am a big fan of the 586 L-comp, but that is a 3" snubby


Springs? I would not even consider putting a spring kit in your new Model 327 TRR8. Remember that the Performance Center offerings do not use the same springs that go into production revolvers. The action already has a tuned set of springs

Give the gun 500 or more rounds to wear into itself before you make any decisions to change things.
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I have a serious 'want' for a TRR8.
Local place has them for $1199 and Sunday they are having a 10% off loyalty sale. Plus maybe the 30% S&W rebate may apply?
Hard to say no!

Anyone else have one? How do you like it compared to a 4" or 6" 686?

Anyone put a spring kit in it and do you feel it was worth it? I already have a extra kit.

Has anyone tried a mini reflex style red dot on one and how did you like it?
Compared to a 4 or 6" 686

I have a 4 and a 6" 686 and an R8 I can compare. Unfortunately I shoot all 3 about the same. But there are differences. One ,I would say is the reach, something I hardly hear discussed. An L frame for me is easier to DA than an N frame for example. Not to say I don't, but on a N frame I have to remember to keep the webbing of my hand closer to the hammer whereas on an L frame its definitely almost on the hilt towards the middle. As a frame of reference; I use Large size gloves. Also currently I have a tube type red dot on my 6" that makes me hit slightly better than the R8 but for me I know it's the red dot. Again they all shoot about the same.

Has anyone put springs in it.

I had to check my notes on this one but the SA pull on my R8 was between 4.5-5#s. And all I did was put a 12# rebound slide spring. Bringing it down to a 2.75 SA. The mainspring tho I left . It was a special ribbed mainspring from the factory (edit: factory boasts 30% reduction on DA pulls) and trimmed the strain screw to leave it at 9#s for some reason I forget......
And it did way better WITH the spring and mild tune up.

Red dot

I put a vortex sparcII on mine. The things that sold it for me was the one screw removal and turn it on leave it on(24hr shutoff)feature. Basically you turn it on, you shoot, it stays on. You leave it on. You forget about! It turns off by itself. I'm lazy. This is a nice lazy mans feature. I got enough stuff on my plate to think about turning this thing off; which you can! It's actually the button next to turning it on- but who wants to do that. Oh well. But I digress......
Shooting an R8 with a red dot is like you're cheating! You feel every shot you made so well, you didnt deserve. That's how good. Its cheating. Light weight. Very accurate.



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The reach is actually an excellent point as raised by Lou the welder, but it’s maybe more a matter of grips than frame.
The search for the grip shape ideally matching everybody’s hand conformation can dramatically change shooting comfort and accuracy.
And this is even more true for two-hands hold, when the pinkie side of the weak hand can stay under the butt or lay along the side of the grip, with the thumb overlapping the strong one or staying under it.
As for the OP questions, I have both a 686 4” and a TRR8 5” and I shoot them about the same as Lou reported.
Recoil is very manageable in both case.
327 bites a little more, or maybe in faster way, but has less muzzle flip than could be expected .
I found no relevant differences in second shot target acquisition time (686 faster being shorter, 327 faster being lighter).
The lighter weight of 327 makes it easier to hold, but this is not an issue for usual aiming time.
The 327 trigger is slightly “rounder”.
I found the Baughman red front sight faster to get along with, the gold dot being sometimes more sensible to the light coming on it form different angles.
I didn’t try a red dot so far, trying to improve my skills without “cheating” as Lou again properly defined its use.
Personally, the 327 was the gun that most drew my attention on sight, and the 686 was the one I felt immediately and instinctively comfortable with when holding. Overall, both are great guns IMHO and, as far as one can stand wife’s mood, I feel it’s worth owing them without having to choose which one is better and one would choose in case he should.
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Wee Hooker & Lou the welder, you guys have a couple of BAD ***** REVOLVERS!!!!!! Also I must say thank you Lou the welder for the GREAT PICS!!!!
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I really like mine and it's a good shooter. Shoots everything well so far.
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This 10% off sale is tomorrow evening. I'm trying to do the adult thing and resist

Have not been able to find a better price on one though.
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I caved. Will see how I like it tomorrow.

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Purchased mine when they were first issued.
As purchased:

Double action had a very noticeable ""hitch" in it.
Sent back to S&W on warranty.
Returned "no fault found".
Started out shooting mild 357 magnum loads.
Loading was slow and woobly. But did manage to win a "mano a mano" match at my club.
Needed a faster loading cartridge. Tried 38 Short Colt first, then went to "38 Mid". Much better.
Still not as fast DA as my 986. That small titanium cylinder makes a big difference.
So, the TRR8 went back to S&W for a titanium cylinder. Better, but the 986 still wins.
So, the TRR sits in my safe awaiting a new mission..
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I've been looking at these as well, but when I read about some barrels coming loose I started to look at other models. I know there's a barrel wrench, but it's something I'd rather not have to deal with and check every time I shoot it. I recently had a Rhino that I sold due to the barrel nut coming loose after two range sessions and the idea that I could lose a finger if there was any sort of kaboom.

I'm now looking at the 2 tone 627 V-Comp PC instead. Is the idea of the TRR8 barrel coming loose silly or something that could possibly happen? I would be shooting nothing but 357 magnum through it in 125gr. and 158gr.

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She shoots pretty good. Trigger is just OK. Hoping it will break in some and get smoother.
Shot over 100 rounds at 14 yards double action. Would like to get the red dot lower. One cylinder was getting tight towards the end.
Got it cleaned up once I got home.



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She shoots pretty good.
Shot over 100 rounds at 14 yards double action. Would like to get the red dot lower.



It can do better, even w/o red dot...
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One of our forum members (revolver_ph) makes a red dot mount that replaces the rear sight, which will let you get rid of the top rail, lighten the gun slightly lower the red dot as low as possible. It does fit a select few red dots however: Burris Fast Fire, Trijicon RMR and Leopold Deltapoint Pro.
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Good info, thanks!
Would like to see it.
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