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10-08-2017, 01:49 PM
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Trigger is too light and reset is hardly there in my 625
Well I purchased a 625 and love it except the trigger. It's beyond amazing in double action but single action feels like a hair trigger and the trigger reset is weak and dead feeling. There is no hammer push off and timing is spot on. Trigger just feels too light, especially in single action.
Any advice here? I'd like to have a trigger job done on it but not sure how to approach this.
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10-08-2017, 01:57 PM
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Change the rebound spring.
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Did you buy it used? If so someone probably replaced or cut the rebound slide spring. Wolf Springs sells a tune kit with several different weight rebound springs. A loose mainspring screw would account for the light trigger pull, but not the weak trigger return.
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10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
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I have a 625-4 and shoot it often. The single action trigger pull is very light but since I don't shoot SA, it doesn't concern me at all. Adjusting the SA pull weight will probably involve changing/adjusting the SA notch in the hammer. Most will advise you to leave that to an experienced gunsmith. You're about the only shooter I've ever encountered who wants to increase trigger pull. Good luck.
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10-08-2017, 03:49 PM
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As soon as I saw your subject line my first thought was a previous owner replaced the rebound spring with a light one.
Personally, I would change both the rebound and mainsprings to factory strength ones and make sure everything is in good working order, presuming you know how to change springs. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a gunsmith take a look at it, though.
If it's just a range gun, you can get a spring kit from Wolff and find the right balance for you. If the gun is for self defense, I'd suggest sticking with factory springs to retain reliability. You can have a gunsmith smooth the action while retaining the factory springs if you want a better trigger pull. Just my opinion.
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10-08-2017, 03:55 PM
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Check your strain screw before doing anything else. It would change the trigger pull but I don't think it would affect trigger reset. Some old school guys will replace the rebound slide spring combined with backing out the strain screw to get a cheap trigger job.
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10-08-2017, 03:59 PM
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Those are the three key areas to check, in order:
Strain screw, rebound spring, mainspring.
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I agree with the above advice. Smith and Wesson will send you new factory springs if you call and ask. They may even give them to you.
No doubt the rebound spring will account for the poor trigger reset. Obviously, a previous owner changed he rebound and hammer springs to reduce trigger pull. Be certain that you check the strain screw located on the bottom inside of the grip frame for tightness. Check YouTube for Jerry Miculek's trigger job. You will see the procedure for changing springs.
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10-08-2017, 04:31 PM
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I bought a used 25-5 to carry at work in '82.
Extremely light pulls, DA & SA.
Very nice.
Too nice.
Had to turn the strain screw back in & seat it fully, previous owner had backed it way out in his ignorance of the design.
As a department armorer, encountered one issue 64 with about three coils below minimum on the rebound spring.
Same deal, the officer issued the gun did some unauthorized tinkering with it that took it below acceptable parameters.
Years later had an action job done on a 28 as part of a rebuild.
In shooting it, the trigger got progressively lighter & lighter till I was getting light-primer misfires.
Turned out my gunsmith had given the action job part to an apprentice who'd thinned the mainspring down to the point it couldn't maintain correct tension on the hammer.
On a used gun, especially a Smith where it's relatively easy to fiddle with, you never know.
But- if the pull's suspiciously TOO light, or you run into trigger reset questions, best to get those three areas addressed.
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trigger reset is weak and dead feeling.
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Definitely the rebound slide spring. It's either too light, or has been cut down (my suspicion). Replacing isn't rocket science, but if you lack mechanical ability and tools, you might have someone do the job for you.
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Honestly the only thing that terrifies me is the side plate screws. I lack the correct screw drivers for them and do not want to mess them up.
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If you're going to own any handgun and especially revolvers and especially Smiths, it is wise to invest in a quality set of screw drivers. l have a 35-piece set of recent vintage and an old Smith
& Wesson set.
Nowadays, even the grip screws can defeat you if you don't have an
up-to-date set. Smith in many cases as do 1911s have grip screws
which require different "screw" drivers. I didn't even know so
many designs existed.
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Brownells is a good source for the proper screwdrivers. I've used a Chapman set for several years and it's served me well.
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Honestly the only thing that terrifies me is the side plate screws. I lack the correct screw drivers for them and do not want to mess them up.
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This is a reasonable and wise fear. Obviously one solution may be to get a good set of screwdrivers and learn to use them. Another solution is to find a good gunsmith and let him handle it. Neither one is guaranteed to be easy, but a full (!) set of Brownells bits and a handle or two probably don't cost much more than a single visit to a gunsmith.
Also, you should worry more about scarring the frame than the screws. You can get a few screws from S&W easily enough.
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Get the right screwdrivers first, and then ask about the right way to remove the sideplate after you do.
Then ask how many coils the rebound spring SHOULD have once you get inside the gun.
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Get the right screwdrivers first, and then ask about the right way to remove the sideplate after you do.
Then ask how many coils the rebound spring SHOULD have once you get inside the gun.
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Denis, I think I'll take this advice.
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Knowing how to get a Smith apart isn't hard to learn.
The most important first step is to get the right set of gun screwdrivers & Brownells is an excellent source.
When you get those, you can ask here or look up video tutorials on getting the sideplate off.
Do NOT try to pry it.
Once off, the next step is loosening the mainspring tension to remove it, and there are a couple ways to do that.
Again- internet tutorials or ask here.
Once the mainspring's out, the rest is fairly easy.
Hardest part is getting the rebound slide out of its recess & back in under its spring pressure.
There's a tool you can also acquire from Brownells for that, or you can fake it with a screwdriver.
It may sound scary, but if you get the right tools, find the tutorials, and TAKE THE TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT & take it slowly, you can disassemble & re-assemble a Smith quite easily.
If you value your gun, it's all worth it, and do NOT half-*** it.
Do it right if you do it at all.
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If you need screwdrivers and don't want to spend a lot for them. Go to WalMart and pickup one of these for around $10. They will serve you well for just about any screw that you encounter.
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Congrats on the new gun!
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