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Just got my 586 no dash back from S&W.
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Boy, I must say that I just don't know about "collector value being gone", when you consider that this is a modern S&W and there are extremely few instances where someone has had S&W refinish a post-1980 revolver. Unlikely marked in any way (beyond the M stamp), I'm not sure that anyone would ever be able to tell that it was refinished.
Certainly, you would know, but beyond you (or after you...?) it seems like only S&W would ever know.
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Man S&Ws rebluing jobs look better than i thought they would. She's purty.
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Boy, I must say that I just don't know about "collector value being gone", when you consider that this is a modern S&W and there are extremely few instances where someone has had S&W refinish a post-1980 revolver. Unlikely marked in any way (beyond the M stamp), I'm not sure that anyone would ever be able to tell that it was refinished.
Certainly, you would know, but beyond you (or after you...?) it seems like only S&W would ever know.
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Thank you sir. I just unboxed this a little over an hour ago and am still in shock. My iPhone pictures don’t even do it justice. If I brought it out in the sun the reflection would burn a hole in the siding of my house. They hit a homer in as far as I’m concerned!
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Certainly, you would know, but beyond you (or after you...?) it seems like only S&W would ever know.
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Remove the grips.. S&W will stamp accordingly. Those that know to look will know.
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10-20-2017, 02:14 PM
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You don't have to be an expert photographer or have the highest dollar photography equipment if you have great subject matter as proven in this thread. Nice pistol....
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Looks great and nice pics too! I'm glad you got it back.
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Very NICE!!! My no dash has never been abused. Your finish is so much more attractive than mine. I do have the original target stocks for it. Enjoy that beauty! Bob
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I'm always leery of guns that have been reblued, and have seen some truly horrendous examples. Even factory jobs seem to be hit and miss, depending on the factory and the day, not to mention the 'tech' (seems they don't have craftsmen anymore) doing the job.
This example is a very good job. I would be proud to own it.
I've got to admit, were I the owner, and was looking to sell, I would have to tell a prospective buyer about the reblue.
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Looking at those pictures gives me hope that one day all the nice guns I've been shooting and wearing the finish off can be returned to like new condition. $278 seems like a bargain for the quality of work you received.
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To hell with collector value. It only maters if you sell it. That is gorgeous.It will be priceless to your son someday .
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Remove the grips.. S&W will stamp accordingly.
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I didn't realize that S&W still did this, I was under the impression that an indication stamp was a thing from half a century or more ago.
What is the stamp and where is it located these days on modern re-blue jobs?
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...or this is something that only those privvy to the secret handshake get to learn?
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I'm much more a buyer/rookie collector than a trader/seller. A re-blue job like that would be well worth it to me! Looks like the old school blueing on my '71 m19-3, that sort of smoked chrome look when the light hits it right.
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Gorgeous. In your pictures it is so shiny it looks like nickel!
My 586 doesn't appear that spectacular!
Can someone remind me what the M recall is?
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Can someone remind me what the M recall is?
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As I've understood it, some early L frames had primers on heavy magnum loads flow back around the firing pin into the bushing, which locked up the revolver. Smith will install a new bushing with a tighter tolerance, and possibly a new pin.
Others will correct my errors here, I'm sure.
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You take awfully good pictures for being no photographer.
Nice gun for sure. Congratulations on the good experience with S&W.
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That sure looks purty! I have a 686-3 that I traded a 686-4 to get because of its square butt and it appears that either someone tried polishing the stainless or it saw a lot of time in an unlined holster. I don't care for polished stainless guns but as I use this one mostly as a carry gun when scouting for deer, I wasn't too concerned about it but had the thought in the back of my mind that I might have S&W restore the stainless steel to its correct "brushed" finish. If anyone has had that done, can you tell me what it cost?
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Gorgeous. In your pictures it is so shiny it looks like nickel!
My 586 doesn't appear that spectacular!
Can someone remind me what the M recall is?
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Some of the early 586 had a problem when shooting full magnum loads;the primer would ''flow'' into the firing pin hole and jam the whole works...which could be embarrassing in a hairy situation.S&W would modify the firing pin hole(bushing) and stamp the ''M'' on said gun.
OP:Yes reblueing will alter the value but some collectors told me that if it has been reblued by the factory that the value drop would not be as much as if done by anybody else.Maybe some real collector(which I am not) can confirm?
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Back from S&W
Wow, I'm amazed at the quality of the work. Beautiful revolver. Is it me or in the first few pics does the gun look stainless?
That's a keeper now.
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S&W did a fine job, looks better then new!
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That turned out Great! I've been pondering having a 15-3 refinished and this helped me make the decision. I know from an "investment" standpoint it makes no sense for me.
I wish you had some before pictures to post.
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What a gorgeous revolver. You may have just caused S&W to have a backlog on refinish work. Very happy for you getting your 586 back. Beautiful!
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Smith blued it the first time....Smith blued it the second time!...Looks a lot better than a beat up rusted piece!..They hit a home run at a great price...good decision!...shoot that baby
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Very Nice! I was told years ago that the 586-686 with AAA prefix's were the very early ones and most were hand fitted pre production guns. Hang onto it this time, it's a keeper.
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Very nice. That 586 model is just a flat out beautiful gun. Beautiful to look at, beautiful to hold and beautiful to shoot.
$285.0 is cheap I think for what it looks like now. Post some before if you got one. I bet they put a little Xtra love in this one cause of the serial number.
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Very great looking 586, hope you enjoy it for a long time.
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Looks great. One word of caution however. From what I read on this forum the new blue process isn’t as durable as in days of yore. Be careful what you clean it with.
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That is a beautiful 586- thanks for sharing
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Yep, I'd say you got your moneys worth. Your grips look great as well.\B.
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Don't worry about the "collector value" being gone. If you ever want the "collector value" I will be happy to send it to you for that beautiful gun. Nice.
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Wow! That is a knockout of a looker and a fantastic Smith Wesson servicing! Sounds like they treated you right, must have hit home with a few of the older craftsman still in the shop and they gave you back all their price in workmanship, sweet.
There are many reasons people collect, it's not always about 100% original.
It's all good with this story on it finding its way back to you, cherish it!
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Very nicely done!
Couple of questions, please:
What year was this no dash 586 shipped originally by S&W?
So does S&W still repair old revolvers and maybe still manufacture parts for them? The current production 586 "Classic" line models have a different side plate so S&W must have either had a spare old plate or manufactured one. Then the stamp there, looks manually applied to match the old (impressive).
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This was a 1980-81 ship date but may need to reference the Standard Catalog again. I am guessing the side plate was replaced due to the detail because it was pretty rusted and pitted when I got it back. The screws look new and the sight inserts front and rear appear new as well.
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Very nice. That 586 model is just a flat out beautiful gun. Beautiful to look at, beautiful to hold and beautiful to shoot.
$285.0 is cheap I think for what it looks like now. Post some before if you got one. I bet they put a little Xtra love in this one cause of the serial number.
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I have one before - I put it back together after a long soak in Kroil and a wipe down.... the cylinder was pretty pitted as well as the side plate. The side plate pitting is partially covered by the grip. This picture was also taken before I knew how low the serial number was. Once I realized what I was sitting on I put all chemicals and implements down and made some calls to Springfield Mass ha!
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I'd be proud to pass the "re-blue" story on with the gun. History of ownership is very difficult to get with a used gun. The story should stay with this one, for generations. Congratulations! You are a very lucky man to get it back.
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Wow, what a come back! Probably shipped around Jul/Aug 1981. Ver ver nize!
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Very very nice. You say you plan on passing it down to your son and I commend you for that. I have a 686 no dash my late father bought new in Sept. of 1981, AAB prefix. Fortunately I have the original box, all papers, tools and even his original receipt. I taught both my sons to shoot a handgun with it and it'll eventually go to my older son, then one of his sons (the older grandson is only 4, the other 4 months so we have some time LOL-the other will get my 1978 66-1).
Enjoy that beauty, don't worry about the collector value-to your family it's priceless.
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Steve J, that looks great, congrats on a very nice keep-sake.
I have an early 586 also.......sn AAA62XX...not as early as yours but still one of the early ones. Mine shipped in late-1980 per a call to S&W.
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Smith & Wesson Blueing!
Your gun looks beautiful, they did a great job!
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Beautiful looking 586. S&W did a great job on it.
I had an early 586 in same configuration. Traded it for a 686, which I still have. Wish I had both. Lol
Enjoy that fine handgun.
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