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Anybody use the j frame crimson trace for concealed carry ,I've got a line on one and thinking of getting it .
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Yes, on both my 340PD and on a 640 Pro. I think, for me, the biggest benefit is when practicing trigger control - they provide a very clear visual of what your barrel is doing. And the padded backstraps are awesome!



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On every J-frame I own.

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Crimson Trace currently makes five different models that fit the Smith and Wesson J-frame, plus a 6th model that has been discontinued.

I have many laser sights on the J-frames in my teaching inventory


They are a great training aid as you can easily see what your trigger control looks like and consciously improve it.

They let you come up on target MUCH faster and help develop point shooting skills.

Many of the folks on the Con side of lasers comment on the batteries going dead just when you need them as their biggest fear. A set of batteries will last the average user several years before going dead.

The good folks at Crimson Trace will send you new batteries every year. Just like you change your smoke detector batteries annually on your birthday or New Years, do the same thing with your laser batteries
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I like the 405 model which is like a boot grip, very short for better in-pocket carry.
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LG-405s on my 442....

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I have the LG-350 on my M&P 340 and a LG-350 on my wife's 642. The Lasergrips are a great BACKUP sighting device and make shooting either J-Frame much more comfortable to shoot.


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I have the smallest 'boot grip', the LG-105 on my 638.
I like the texture of it (non-rubber), which feels good in my hand, but doesn't cling to clothing.

For me, it's been great for training - dry firing and trigger control.
I can fire it fairly quickly in a point and shoot method and the laser only moves a couple of inches, or less, when shining on the far side of my living room (20 to 25 feet).
My trigger technique has gotten very good with the fairly heavy double action trigger pull on the little 'J'!
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Crimson trace boot grip on a 60-14. Checked zero at 15 yrds
Very good for low ambient light.
Always practice outside to 30 yds just for trigger control and recreation.
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I have been carrying my first CC revolver a S&W 640-1 with a Crimson Trace Laser Grip Sight on it for the last 10+ years. I have a CT on every CC gun I own. And quite a few others. I have never had any type of a problem with any of my CTLGS`s. IMHO the CT is just outstanding and I just won`t be with one if I can help it. You would be hard pressed to beat a CT.
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I'm a fan, but I did have one set of Crimson Trace grips die on me. I called the company, but since it was past the warranty period I was out of luck. Nothing with electronics can last forever, so I wasn't too bummed out about it.
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I'm a fan, but I did have one set of Crimson Trace grips die on me. .... Nothing with electronics can last forever, so I wasn't too bummed out about it.
If mine ever die, I'll probably get the 'standard' Hogue boot grips:
I like the texture of Hogue better than the new S&W rubber grips, which are too tacky against clothing IMO.
I have Hogue grips that came with my 629 & 686, and I added them to my GP-100 and Mark II.

That being said, I'm going to continue to 'train' with the CT grips!
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I tried them, but just prefer magnas and a Tyler T. I shoot better with those. I kept them in case I change my mind, or get another J Frame to try them again with.
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Recently tied their green laser - Wow! - I'm a convert.
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While they won’t win any beauty contest, the LG-405 overmold style are the most comfortable J-frame grips I’ve found yet, even regardless of the laser. They do get a bit in the way of deep concealment, which isn’t my concern these days.

As for their utility, too many people misunderstand lasers as a substitute for normal sights or instinctive shooting techniques. They’re not; lasers are an additional tool in a self-defense situation, to allow shot placement when you are not able to fire from a conventional stance and aiming position.

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I have the LG-405 on my 442. I love the feel of the grip and mostly use the laser as a training guide.
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Just put a set of LG405's on my 637-2.

I think I'm going to really like using them on this tiny gun.
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The LG405 grip my MP340CT would not hold zero for diddley, tried to like em but they would move zero at least 6" at 25 ft between shots. If you squeeze the grip and observe where the laser module plastics is nearest the frame you could see flex. The grip was on tight before anyone suggests that, but changes in hand squeeze on the grip would throw it way off. Just found for myself that irons were more accurate.
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Oh, yes.

I was a doubter, nowadays I am a believer. And no gun gains more from a laser grip than the J-frame. Both my J-frame and Taurus small frame have them, now.

They are great for training and the bee's knees for low-light work. Beat tritium night sights.

If conditions are good, such as good light & contrast and such, the irons are more precise/faster. Good thing you don;t need to cover or lose them to enjoy the benefits of the CT laser grips!


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I have the smallest 'boot grip', the LG-105 on my 638.
I like the texture of it (non-rubber), which feels good in my hand, but doesn't cling to clothing.

For me, it's been great for training - dry firing and trigger control.
I can fire it fairly quickly in a point and shoot method and the laser only moves a couple of inches, or less, when shining on the far side of my living room (20 to 25 feet).
My trigger technique has gotten very good with the fairly heavy double action trigger pull on the little 'J'!
I have the same setup: SW638 and CT LG-105. For the same reasons.



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I tried them, but just prefer magnas and a Tyler T. I shoot better with those. I kept them in case I change my mind, or get another J Frame to try them again with.
Which model laser grips?

I like magnas and T-grips on my revolvers, too. The LG-105 model is pretty darned close to that feel. The others are too squishy, fat, ot long for my tastes.
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Just curious because I love The Chief: does a laser provide benefit?

The Chief is a belly gun. It's design is to get outta a very tight squeeze at very close distance. Hence, I point shoot at 10' with accuracy. If a threat were at aiming distance, I'd figure that my better option would be running the heck outta Dodge.
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I was a doubter, nowadays I am a believer. And no gun gains more from a laser grip than the J-frame. Both my J-frame and Taurus small frame have them, now.



They are great for training and the bee's knees for low-light work. Beat tritium night sights.



If conditions are good, such as good light & contrast and such, the irons are more precise/faster. Good thing you don;t need to cover or lose them to enjoy the benefits of the CT laser grips!









I have the same setup: SW638 and CT LG-105. For the same reasons.











Which model laser grips?



I like magnas and T-grips on my revolvers, too. The LG-105 model is pretty darned close to that feel. The others are too squishy, fat, ot long for my tastes.


The LG405 model. They fit well, I just shoot that Tyler t and magna combo too well to try anything different anymore.


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LG-405 on my Unobtanium PD340. In addition to the sighting aid, it helps tame the recoil of the .357 Mag..
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Just curious because I love The Chief: does a laser provide benefit?

The Chief is a belly gun. It's design is to get outta a very tight squeeze at very close distance. Hence, I point shoot at 10' with accuracy. If a threat were at aiming distance, I'd figure that my better option would be running the heck outta Dodge.
Yes, laser grips are beneficial to making COM hits on targets. I suggest borrowing/renting an example.

I love the Chief, too. I have toted many sorts of handguns over the years. The others have mostly boiled off, leaving 1911s and J-frames to carry 90% of the load for me.

Assuming a threat will appear in the scenario for which we are best prepared is conducive to quick, sharp, and impromptu learning opportunities. Knowing the outer limits of our gears' and our own capabilities might save our bacon if things don't go down as we expect. And J-frames are generally capable of better accuracy than the shooter can demonstrate.

J-frames don't have to be just belly guns. It takes a bit of effort, but they can be used to make chest/COM hits on silhouette targets out to 25+ yards (unsupported--Note01) in good light (so you can see sights & target well).

Laser grips move that capability into low light environments and speed up engagement times in general out past point shooting range. Again, with the exception of well-lit, high contrast environments where the irons are superior.




Note01--If you can get some support or use a steadier stance, hits on a human silhouette are do-able well beyond 25 yards. Single action fire helps in these circumstances, so I am partial to the 38, 49, 638, 649, etc.
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Yup LG-105's on my primary EDC a 340PD.
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Yep....and you can shoot from the hip...accurately...
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You guys! Now I have to go out and check on some Laser grips.
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Late to this party, but I've got CT LaserGrips on the 442 which I used to carry all the time. The Glock 43 has lately taken the place of the 442, but I'm prone to switching my CCW pistols around, so I'm sure the 442 will be back. I really like it . . .
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I'm fond of the Altamont Super Rosewood Combat grips on the round butt J-frames and want to go laser, but don't like the shape of the Crimson Trace grips. I'm thinking about gutting an LG-105 and inlaying it into a pair of the Altamonts.
Anybody done this before?
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I have the LG-405 on my 340 M&P. They work great, and add a new dimension to the J-frame. I've found POA/POI to be consistent and don't know why it took me so long to accept them. Guess it just took age and changing eyesight to give me a reason. I intend to put LG-405s on my 640 also.
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