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Old 04-08-2018, 08:33 AM
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I was just looking at the Classic series revolvers, and all the grips seem to have the same color. Id this some sort of a sprayed on walnut colored finish?
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I do believe that they are all made by Altamont. While they may work well for some, they are not the right size/feel for me. I have kept mine, but were replaced by older genuine S&W stocks, or Herretts. Bob
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Bananaman is correct, the current "Classic Series" grips are made by Altamont and are all dyed Birchwood. Unfortunately, they are significantly thinner than the original authentic grips.

On a disappointing note, Altamont actually makes grips which are true to the originals, but they're obviously more expensive (nearly double the price) and I guess S&W doesn't want to spring for those.

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Bananaman is correct, the current "Classic Series" grips are made by Altamont and are all dyed Birchwood. Unfortunately, they are significantly thinner than the original authentic grips.

On a disappointing note, Altamont actually makes grips which are true to the originals, but they're obviously more expensive (nearly double the price) and I guess S&W doesn't want to spring for those.
You would think S&W could sign a deal for a good price based on volume alone.
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Well, I am sorry to hear that. What good is it to buy a new gun, and then have to replace the grips just because they are ugly. Regardless of fit.
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Well, I am sorry to hear that. What good is it to buy a new gun, and then have to replace the grips just because they are ugly. Regardless of fit.
Hi Neighbor, I have a new 586 classic. I think the grips are actually decent looking and (as with all Altimont's) fit very well. So far, they remain on the gun despite having multiple other choices.
Now my S&W 625 PC .. that's a whole other story that I just refuse to get.

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Yes, they are from Altamont. Unfortunately, they all look too much alike because they are laminated - no individual character.

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Well, I am sorry to hear that. What good is it to buy a new gun, and then have to replace the grips just because they are ugly. Regardless of fit.
First of all, I wouldn't say that the new Classic Series grips are ugly by any stretch of the imagination. They still look good, just not as good as the originals, IMO.
Furthermore, buying aftermarket parts for a gun and customizing it to your liking can be fun, so don't knock it until you've tried it.

If I were you, then I would seek out one of the Classic Series Revolvers locally so that you can hold it in your hand and see how YOU like the feel of the grips. Perhaps they'll feel more natural in your hands and you won't even need to purchase aftermarket replacements, you'll never know until you try.

Personally, I like Altamont Grips and have bought two pairs in recent years for my S&W PPK/S and Taurus Judge Magnum. I just don't care for the particular grips S&W chose for the Classic Series and wish they had sprung for the more expensive grips which are modeled after the originals.

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Well, I am sorry to hear that. What good is it to buy a new gun, and then have to replace the grips just because they are ugly. Regardless of fit.
Back in the day, meaning probably well before you were born,
the fate of many of the Smith stocks was the bin for unwanted
and unliked stuff. Replacement even in the 1960s or
through the 1980s were "custom" stocks or Goodyear
stocks.

So Smith started making Goodyear stocks the norm and
then the buying public wanted the old style stocks back.

The new style Classic stocks are not bad and actually fit my
hand better than the fatter old style stocks that were
standard back when.
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The first time I picked up one of the new 29s with the stocks you refer to I knew they were not for me. A few years ago, when I was looking at the new Classic-series guns, I saw some guns with pretty stocks, but I havenít paid any attention to them lately. Iím sure some people find those stocks work fine, but to me they feel like Iím holding a 1x3.
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Back in the day, meaning probably well before you were born,
the fate of many of the Smith stocks was the bin for unwanted
and unliked stuff. Replacement even in the 1960s or
through the 1980s were "custom" stocks or Goodyear
stocks.

So Smith started making Goodyear stocks the norm and
then the buying public wanted the old style stocks back.

The new style Classic stocks are not bad and actually fit my
hand better than the fatter old style stocks that were
standard back when.
I am not saying than the stocks are bad or poor fitting. I guess I am saying that IMO they lack character.

And as for when I was born, let's just say I have put some time into some portion of 8 decades

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If replacing parts on a new item, never buy a Harley.
Oh I have done that. The last one was a brand new 99 Wide Glide. You can replace almost every part with something new. And I did a lot.

Then don't forget the clothes. It's a fashion show
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Oh I have done that. The last one was a brand new 99 Wide Glide. You can replace almost every part with something new. And I did a lot.

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Back in the day, meaning probably well before you were born,
the fate of many of the Smith stocks was the bin for unwanted
and unliked stuff. Replacement even in the 1960s or
through the 1980s were "custom" stocks or Goodyear
stocks.

So Smith started making Goodyear stocks the norm and
then the buying public wanted the old style stocks back.

The new style Classic stocks are not bad and actually fit my
hand better than the fatter old style stocks that were
standard back when.
You are 100% correct. In their day, many of the old stocks that we now cherish were frowned upon by their owners and replaced with other non-factory stocks. That's why many older guns appear for sale without original stocks. Even very early antique guns suffered this fate, having their factory stocks replaced with mother of pearl, ivory and other desirable (at the time) replacements, with the original stocks cast aside and lost for all of time.

Then there were the non-factory stocks that rose to their own level of desirability, such as Ropers, but that's a whole different story. For those seeking replacement stocks for current models, check out Hogue, who offer some very nice aftermarket stocks.
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Revolver grips, along with practically every modern produced item now, is NOT the quality they used to be.

Good old American Walnut or Goncalo Alves is a thing of the past. You are probably lucky to get Birch or Beech now, stained for sure. Laminate is another really popular material now, which many think is still actual wood.

I've always been impressed with S&W's attention to grip material and quality back in the day. So many different options with all different kinds of wood. Much more advanced than Colt. Too bad that time has ended.

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They really do appear very cheap. Not acceptable IMHO.


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Revolver grips, along with practically every modern produced item now, is NOT the quality they used to be.

Good old American Walnut or Goncalo Alves is a thing of the past. You are probably lucky to get Birch or Beech now, stained for sure. Laminate is another really popular material now, which many think is still actual wood.

I've always been impressed with S&W's attention to grip material and quality back in the day. So many different options with all different kinds of wood. Much more advanced than Colt. Too bad that time has ended.
Laminates are actual wood, they layers wood glued together to make larger pieces. Although many may not like the look, they have the advantage of being stronger and more stable than plain wood because the grain is not all running in the same direction. As for today's grips not being to the same standard, that's true of factory, but not aftermarket. Take a look at Culina'a for example.
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I have Tai grips on several of my revolvers, it is a hit or miss on them though. All have fit well, and were gorgeous but one set for my GP, could not use speed loaders with them. I cut them for the speed loaders too much so I need to buy another set being more careful. The upside they are only 40 bucks a pair, though they take a month to ship.

They are service quality, don't expect the quality of a 500 dollar set of grips. I have them on my GP, a Taurus 82, Smith 21-4, and am waiting on a set for my Smith 64. I am happy with the grain, color, and feel of all of them. Only the GP had fit issues.
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Some people like those grips and they fit their hands well.

For other folks, they don't fit well.

Luckily there are dozens of options out there that are affordable to fancy.

Ahrends, hogue, VZ, Badger, Pachmyr to custom Kuracs.

There is something out there to strike your fancy.

I like the factory original grips, I like Pachmyr finger groove grips, and I like Kuracs by JOHN Culina.
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I found a pair of smooth S&W rosewood target stocks out of the mid 70's when I was digging around in a box of stuff. They will look nice on my 1968 model 10-5 that is on the way. Still wish I had the 15-3 that they were originally on
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Bananaman is correct, the current "Classic Series" grips are made by Altamont and are all dyed Birchwood. Unfortunately, they are significantly thinner than the original authentic grips.

On a disappointing note, Altamont actually makes grips which are true to the originals, but they're obviously more expensive (nearly double the price) and I guess S&W doesn't want to spring for those.
I have a new Classic Model 586 and my stocks look to be walnut not stained Birchwood. The 2017 Smith & Wesson product catalog list them as Classic Walnut Grips with Medallion.
The second picture are my stocks and they look like solid walnut and not laminated.
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I have a new Classic Model 586 and my stocks look to be walnut not stained Birchwood. The 2017 Smith & Wesson product catalog list them as Classic Walnut Grips with Medallion.
The second picture are my stocks and they look like solid walnut and not laminated.
I'm no expert on wood grips so I couldn't tell you either way, so perhaps I'm wrong.

My information came from information I read online, including this taken directly from Altamont's website;

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The materials available will depend on the gun you are outfitting. Most will be available in our super woods - Super Rosewood, Super Walnut, or Silverblack. These three are dyed birch laminates. We have experimented with many premium and synthetic materials and found these to be both durable and beautiful. We also offer bonded ivory, imitation stag, aged ivory, white pearl, pink pearl, and in some cases rubber, plastic, and premium woods.
Furthermore, if you check their selection of the new-style presentation grips, the dropdown menu only lists "Super Walnut" wood grips, with only the original "Coke Bottle" grips available in true American Walnut, and they don't look the same as yours at all.

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I ordered the “coke” style grips for a 28-2 and a 29-10. They aren’t too bad . A bit on the thin side, but at least are real wood. Fairly cost effective . I may order some custom grips someday for my “heirloom “ revolvers.

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Bananaman is correct, the current "Classic Series" grips are made by Altamont and are all dyed Birchwood. Unfortunately, they are significantly thinner than the original authentic grips.

On a disappointing note, Altamont actually makes grips which are true to the originals, but they're obviously more expensive (nearly double the price) and I guess S&W doesn't want to spring for those.
With my short fingers this makes them feel better while keeping a classic type look to them. Factory Target stocks were way too big for my hand.
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Back in the day, meaning probably well before you were born,
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and unliked stuff. Replacement even in the 1960s or
through the 1980s were "custom" stocks or Goodyear
stocks.

So Smith started making Goodyear stocks the norm and
then the buying public wanted the old style stocks back.

The new style Classic stocks are not bad and actually fit my
hand better than the fatter old style stocks that were
standard back when.
HI Uncle Ed,

IMHO, THE PROBLEM WITH THE S&W GOODYEARS IS THAT THEY HAVE FINGER GROOVES. MASSAD AYOOB, THE HIGHLY REGARDED SHOOTING CHAMPION, GUN WRITER, AND TACTICAL TRAINER, STATES THAT FINGER GROOVE STOCKS, ONLY FIT 1/10TH OF THE SHOOTING PUBLIC. UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT ONE OF THE 10%.........

GIVEN THAT MOST MODERN S&W REVOLVERS, ARE BUILT ON ROUND BUTT FRAMES, I HAVE RESORTED TO REPLACING THE GOODYEARS, WITH AHRENDS, SMOOTH, TACTICAL, ROUND FRAME TO SQUARE GRIP CONVERSIONS.........
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