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This Model 617
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never mind..
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Hoping to see some images of others. Two sold on GunBroker last year and haven't seen any since.
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Is that an aluminum cylinder? Looks a lot like it. What was the model number ?
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Is that an aluminum cylinder? Looks a lot like it. What was the model number ?
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Yes, it does have the aluminum cylinder.
This a the Model 617 no dash.
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The OP's gun is the Product Code 103597. That's its unique identifier. They were sold in 1998.
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Great and scarce gun you have there! That's a much better configuration to me than the full lug barrel. I would prefer the stainless cylinder over aluminum. With 10 chambers and flutes instead of 6, the weight is already reduced without aluminum and its problems. My $.02
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The OP's gun is the Product Code 103597. That's its unique identifier. They were sold in 1998.
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What product code would you ascribe to each of these?
I once knew.
Lost track.
Thanx,
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[SIZE="3"][FONT="Trebuchet MS"]What product code would you ascribe to each of these?...
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The bottom gun looks like the 10-shot round butt no-lug M617-1 product code 103595. Sources say 17 shipped in August of 1998. Known serial number prefixes include CCM. Shipped in that white cardboard box with the eagle logo on it.
Top gun looks like a duplicate pic of the 103597 you already posted.
Are these guns you own?
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The bottom gun looks like the 10-shot round butt no-lug M617-1 product code 103595. Sources say 17 shipped in August of 1998. Known serial number prefixes include CCM. Shipped in that white cardboard box with the eagle logo on it.
Top gun looks like a duplicate pic of the 103597 you already posted.
Are these guns you own?
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These two images of the boxes were posted to show the masses the difference in the two offerings.
Thank you for posting the product codes.
I own the one that I have posted pictures of in my first post.
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One of the reason I like to use product codes is ten years from now someone looking for information on these guns, can just type the product code and the words "Smith and Wesson" into Google and it will take them directly to this thread. Saves them from sorting through 10,000 threads on standard M617's. It makes the thread far more powerful to search engines.
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Did Smith ever make this same configuration, but with a stainless cylinder? Maybe with only 6 chambers? That’s one I’d love to own!
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Here’s both RB and SB...
Froggie, the Ashland models were 6 holers and came as (2) 6" and (1) 4".
One of the 6" had 3 T's. (see below)
The Ashlands are somewhat scarce in that there were only a few hundred (hafta look it up for exact numbers) of each of the 3 models.
As you know, the 10-shot alloy were even more scarce with 23 SB and 17 RB.
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The 6" standard not pictured.
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I've always wondered why they just didn't make the 617 with the same barrel contour as the Model 18. I've got a 617-4 and it is just wayyyy too heavy with that underlug barrel. Only beef I have about the gun. WOuld love to have a barrel with the Model 18 taper on it.
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No pic but the elusive 617 mtn gun is configured pretty nice.
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I have some of the 4" 617-4's and I agree with counsel.
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No pic but the elusive 617 mtn gun is configured pretty nice.
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I wholly concur.
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These look like the 6-shot no-dash no-lug guns made for Ashland Shooting Supply in 1990 & 1991. The 6-inch gun is the product code 100567 and the 4-inch gun 100563.
Sources say 116 of the 6-inch were made, and 200 of the 4-inch. They shipped in the standard blue one-piece box that was common for that era.
The 4 1/8-inch M617-6 Mountain Gun is product code 150929 and they shipped in 2012-2013. We haven't seen an authoritative number published on how many were made, but I would guess fewer than 500.
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These look like the 6-shot no-dash no-lug guns made for Ashland Shooting Supply in 1990 & 1991. The 6-inch gun is the product code 100567 and the 4-inch gun 100563.
Sources say 116 of the 6-inch were made, and 200 of the 4-inch. They shipped in the standard blue one-piece box that was common for that era.
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Yes sir on all accounts. The one missing is the Ashland 6" Standard (non-target hammer/trigger). Off hand I don't recall the product code or amount produced. I think that one and the 4 others I've pictured are about the extent of no lock, no lug, 617's produced. Other than maybe for export only but I'm not sure about that. Any info; number produced, product codes, etc. is appreciated.
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