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Old 06-13-2018, 06:05 PM
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I have located a 617-2 (with the aluminum cylinder) at a local pawn shop with some nice engravings. I was able to take the picture that I included with this thread. My issue with the gun is the side plate; the previous owner's name is engraved there. While I do love the other "scroll" engraving on the barrel and frame, I am not fond of a name on the revolver. There may be some issues finding another side plate which would not match the scrolling engraving. No big deal there...

I have contacted Smith and Wesson customer service. This, like other revolvers I've sent in, could take 3 months or more (for a new side plate), and, cost anywhere from $200-$250. I have offered the pawn shop $400 ($200 off their $600 price point). They are willing to do the deal if the gun sits for another week.

After all fees and taxes, I would be looking (estimated) at a 617 with the aluminum cylinder that could cost me near $700. I would love to add this pre-lock 617 to my collection; I would appreciate opinions (price wise) on value.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:23 PM
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Keep in mind that Smith replaced the alloy cylinder with an all stainless steel 10 shot cyl. due to poor sales of the alloy cylinder. That too drops the value I would think.
It's a cool looking version with the scribbling on it.

I wonder how others enjoyed the alloy cylinder.?
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:28 PM
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Yes sir, that is correct. I've read up on the aluminium cylinder; avoid brass brushes and lightly clean the cylinder holes. I would be happy with the aluminum cylinder as long as it presented no other issues. Thanks for the reply
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:22 PM
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I'll use it as is if they take 400. No offense to collectors but the engraving won't change how it shoots. I have one kinda like that. 681 that was comped. Built for a cop who was recoil sensitive. His initials are LC. I bought it from the smith who did the work when it was traded in when the department went to glocks. We joke about the LC standing for L Comp rather than the officers name. LC is also a buddy of both the smith and me. I can see you wanting to fix it but then again why?
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Using the proper sandpaper and sanding techniques you could remove the laser engraving and the previous owner's name quit easily. Have the gun looking just like any other M617-2 when it left the factory. Just stay away from the cylinder. (I'd separated the cylinder from the gun when working on it). All it would take is a $8 investment in a 3M wet/dry sandpaper variety pack from any auto parts store, and maybe 3 to 4 hours of your time.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:32 PM
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I'll use it as is if they take 400. No offense to collectors but the engraving won't change how it shoots. I have one kinda like that. 681 that was comped. Built for a cop who was recoil sensitive. His initials are LC. I bought it from the smith who did the work when it was traded in when the department went to glocks. We joke about the LC standing for L Comp rather than the officers name. LC is also a buddy of both the smith and me. I can see you wanting to fix it but then again why?



OCD I guess...
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Using the proper sandpaper and sanding techniques you could remove the laser engraving and the previous owner's name quit easily. Have the gun looking just like any other M617-2 when it left the factory. Just stay away from the cylinder. (I'd separated the cylinder from the gun when working on it). All it would take is a $8 investment in a 3M wet/dry sandpaper variety pack from any auto parts store, and maybe 3 to 4 hours of your time.
The Kernal has a great idea. I've refinished several stainless models that had poor finishes. Several I continued to polish completely to a bright finish. And several I've restored to a very, very, close to original finish. As you might know, SW stainless finishes vary quit a bit... It does take time and you want to be very careful not to round any edges when disassembled, especially on the side plate, where you would be focusing on.
There's a local laser engraver where I live here in Nor CA., that has done engraving for me restoring that original or adding some custom work. Some beautiful work restoring SW factory looking emblems and lettering at a great price.
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The Kernal has a great idea. I've refinished several stainless models that had poor finishes. Several I continued to polish completely to a bright finish. And several I've restored to a very, very, close to original finish. As you might know, SW stainless finishes vary quit a bit... It does take time and you want to be very careful not to round any edges when disassembled, especially on the side plate, where you would be focusing on.
There's a local laser engraver where I live here in Nor CA., that has done engraving for me restoring that original or adding some custom work. Some beautiful work restoring SW factory looking emblems and lettering at a great price.
Thanks for the info sir. I might consider asking the engraver if they can replicate the laser engraving if I redo or find a new side plate. Do you by chance know the name of the engraver in your area? Do they have a website?
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TOO much $ for a project gun, & I don't trust a gun with a name on it. Who knows what else was done to it? Not a fan of the alloy either. It's a no for me, at that price. 300- 325 $ maybe?
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I really don't understand the whole laser engraved thing. It's like having a portrait commissioned by an artist that uses an old computer plotter instead of paint. I just don't see any artwork (or beauty) in it.

I'd still probably jump on it for $400, but I'd sand off all the laser engraving. I'm also one that is bothered by the aluminum cylinder, so I'd figure out how to change that out too.
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I have contacted Smith and Wesson customer service. This, like other revolvers I've sent in, could take 3 months or more (for a new side plate), and, cost anywhere from $200-$250. I have offered the pawn shop $400 ($200 off their $600 price point). They are willing to do the deal if the gun sits for another week.

Honestly I think that is a very fair offer. If the pawn store won't wiggle then walk away. If you do end up buying it, I would say go for it & send it to S&W. if any work was done on the inside they will replace those parts at no charge to you & return it to factory spec. I know this because I have sent in revolvers in the past and that is what they have done. I am currently waiting for them to finish rebluing my mod 10 HB.

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Honestly I think that is a very fair offer. If the pawn store won't wiggle then walk away. If you do end up buying it, I would say go for it & send it to S&W. if any work was done on the inside they will replace those parts at no charge to you & return it to factory spec. I know this because I have sent in revolvers in the past and that is what they have done. I am currently waiting for them to finish rebluing my mod 10 HB.
Thanks for the reply sir. Exactly what was I thinking; did this with a 586 too, and, they replaced several internal pieces. It was a good deal.
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I'd already have it in my safe. Looks like a great range gun as long as the action is still good and it functions with all the ammo you want. You are not going to find another 617 for $400,
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Im not 100% sure but is laser engraving shallow in the metal? A simple bead blast might erase all of the engraving. As long as its done correctly. Any thoughts?
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Thanks for the info sir. I might consider asking the engraver if they can replicate the laser engraving if I redo or find a new side plate. Do you by chance know the name of the engraver in your area? Do they have a website?
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Buy the gun for $400.. then remove the name from side plate.. locate a jeweler with a lazer etching machine, add scrolling to match.
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Thanks to all for the suggestions. I will buy this 617 if it does sit for another week and I can get it for $400 as agreed by the pawn shop.
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