I have read numerous posts on this same subject and came to this conclusion:The M69,in the bbl. length that fits your hand best(remember different lockup)for backpacking would be my choice.If on an ATV or just a camp revolver,I prefer a M629 Classic 5in. bbl.If I was looking for a backpacking/CCW revolver it would be a M69.

The BEST gun is the one you have with you.

I'm too light in the butt and too old to carry weight any distance or any length of time. I hate hitching up my pants all day.

After trying many, I had no choice but to go with a scandium 13 oz. beast.
I forget I'm wearing it. For me, that was the goal.
It is the Beast of Beasts. It kicks harder than anything I've ever held and I regularly shoot hot 44mag. However, when you need it, you never feel the kick. It's a 357 mag.


It is not fun. It is not a range toy. It is not sexy. But it can save your life.
I hate it. But I will never be without it in the backcountry.

What is it?

A S&W 360PD.


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It's awful, I love it.

My woods bumming/camping/fishing kit selection includes a 640-1, a ratty old 3-inch 13-2 .357, sometimes a 629-2 Mountain Revolver, and a HK USP 45 w/ 12-rd mags. The 640-1 sits in my pocket, the 13-2 in a converted 1911 shoulder holster. Added: I carry one or two at a time, usually the 640-1 in the back pocket and whatever suits me on the hip or shoulder holster.

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After reading all the responses I can only conclude that many of our members live near some pretty dangerous woods. If I felt like I needed 30 pounds of guns and ammo before entering the woods I just wouldn't. The reality is you are much more likely to become lost or injured and immobilized then you are of being attacked. Besides protecting you from hideous predators a good woods gun should also be able to take small game and signal to rescuers. If you stay on the Forest Service roads I guess it doesn't matter but for a hunter, hiker, or fisherman who leaves the trail your chances of becoming injured or lost increase dramatically.

Since 1970 I carried a 6 1/2" pre-29. But lately I started carrying a model 58 .41 mag. Very handy on a snowmachine with the very low fixed sights not getting snagged up on clothing. Within the last year I picked up a Smith model 1076 10mm and am temped to start carrying it because of the slimmer profile. The 10 is a lot of fun to shoot. I have been shooting 165 gr. at about 1050 fps, but it can be loaded up to shoot a 200 gr. at 1200 fps.

I'm partial to a 3" 686+ for a good all-around woods gun. The 3" barrel is long enough to have a full length ejector rod, comes out of a belt holster with ease, isn't too heavy to pack, and still has enough barrel length that velocity doesn't really suffer with 158 grain and heavier .357 loads.

A mid/full size 9mm would also be a decent option if you can find some 147 grain flat point fmj's. I imagine those would penetrate deep. I have a few boxes of 147 grain Winchester Super-X stashed away for just in case.

My woods gun of choice is a 4" Model 686-3. I load it with three shot loads for creepy-crawlers and three .357 158-grain hollow-points for anything bigger. I would use a 1911 in .45ACP but semi-auto handguns are not (yet) legal hunting firearms here in Pennsylvania so if I were to be forced to kill a game animal for some reason and a game warden were to become involved, I'd probably be chastised for using one. Also, shot loads, if available, wouldn't cycle the action of a 1911.

Ed

I have carried a variety of K, L, and N frames. Now a days I always take a Model 65-4. It will handle the 357 magnum and the lack of adjustable sights and a under lug make for an easy to carry sidearm. I started with a Model 19 with a 6" barrel and stayed away from 4" barrels but after a while I learned to shoot a 4" pretty good.
If I could get that same firearm with a 5" barrel, that would be ideal. A little longer sighting radius, a little higher velocity, but still an easy gun to pack around.

I occasionally make solo hikes into the woods of Montana and Wyoming. On those occasions I carry bear spray and my 3" 629 loaded with Buffalo Bore .44 magnums with hard cast bullets. Weight be damned.

When I'm hiking locally in Utah, where brown bears are not an issue, I carry either my model 60 loaded in .357 or my model 637 with .38.

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I had a young partner once that was like a terrier dog when it came to arresting folks. Man, he could get hyped up. One afternoon, we got a call of men with guns shooting near a small neighborhood. When we got there, we spotted a group of teenagers, some of whom were carrying long guns, in a field behind the houses. My partner jumps out of the patrol car and runs towards them, screaming for them to put down the guns.

I told him to calm down. There were about six of them, all teens or pre teens; one had an old single shot shotgun, another had a .22 rifle and another had a BB gun. I asked the group what they were doing and they said they were hunting. I told them OK and then had to explain to my partner that the field they were in was outside of the city limits, they were well away from any of the houses and were not causing any harm.

I told the young men to enjoy their hunt and we drove away.

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Well SeamasterSig 'out on a limb', here is the short story. About 1979, no Bear Spray on the market as of yet. I went into Sequoia National Forest just after winter, camped 6 miles in all alone. After the third day I was cooking a meal (I know how to high hide food and trash, been doing it for years) A big black bear with a radio collar on (To me this is a problem bear) came into my camp, walked up and grabbed my food bag 4 feet from me as I was reading a book. I chased him across the small creek and he ran up hill with my food. Bear turned around and ran down at me. The stand off, me on one side of the ten foot creek with the angry aggressive bear on the other. Using my whistle and throwing rocks and wood in the bears direction he would not go away. The bear started across the creek. I pulled out my S&W Model 65 357 magnum loaded with 158gr PMC ammo and fired a warning shot into the creek and it was a misfire, a dud. Oh nuts! The bear was half way across and another shot into the creek, bang! Nothing from the bear, except now he was on his hind feet and showing his teeth. Back on all fours I aimed into his ear knowing that was the easiest way into the big bears brain. Almost on my side I was about to touch off the last four rounds when the bear turned and ran up hill. I ran back to camp and tossed everything into my sleeping bag and ran up the hill to the trail. It was dark and down the hill came the bear at full run. It stopped at my camp for the my dinner. I ran in the dark all the way to my waiting car 6 mountain miles. We both lived and I don't care who's fault it was. I felt under gunned. I turned to my S&W 629 with 300gr Hammerheads. Now I felt safer. The weight meant nothing more to me, safety first. I went back to my backpacking two weeks later. End story.

My woods gun is a 686-6.

The details of your short story are much more interesting and enlightening than the abbreviated version. It gives me pause for thought that a 44 (even a 44 spl with at least 240 grain SWCs) might be worth it for the peace of mind. Nothing penetrates like a big heavy bullet, even a slow-moving one.

I have a 5" 629-3, but have always considered it overkill in Florida. The toughest thing to kill down here is feral pig and there are more of them per square mile than anywhere else in the country. Tourists are fascinated with the alligators, but I think pigs are far more dangerous even if the gators are technically more deadly. I was stalked by a boar once for several hundred yards, so I know what it feels like to be hunted. I had heard dogs barking about 100 yards ahead of me around a bend on the trail; they must have spooked the pig and then I came along and disturbed it again. He dashed into the brush when he first saw my wife and I. Must have been about 200-250 lbs. Before long it was moving parallel to us about 10-15 yards away through brush mostly too thick to see through and shallow standing water, snorting angrily. It stood still whenever we stopped walking, which was kind of creepy. Finally, it had drifted to within about 5 yards of us on the other side of some thick saw palmettos, which make lots of noise when something moves through them, but are impossible to see through. Suddenly it turned in our direction judging by the sound. I wheeled toward it and drew faster than I thought I could and he stopped moving again. At this point, the clearing where we had parked was only 20 yards away. I don't think it followed us any further. What made me most nervous was the fact that if it charged us, by the time it was clearly visible it would only be a few feet away.

But getting back to your story, I think you misunderstood me. My comments in post #100 marked "For the OP" were directed at Fish4Bass101 as the original poster of the thread. I felt like I may have been "going out on a limb" with my suggestion, because so far everyone had only discussed caliber and gun size. No surprise there—it is a gun forum after all. So I wasn't sure how the suggestion to pack a non-lethal deterrent would be received.

It occurred to me a couple days ago that, even if black bears are generally not considered to be aggressive toward humans and even if you do everything right in camp, you still can't account for people who came before you whose actions may have desensitized a bear to humans, causing it to lose any fear it may have of them and encouraging it to seek out hikers, backpackers and campsites as a source of food. It sounds like you ran into just this sort of bear.

SeamasterSig, Like your story, seen some big croc's in the north Queensland of Australia. Several grizzly bears in USA, two Cougars and other beasts. I camped out in a field in North Island of New Zealand one night and woke up surrounded by a heard of cows.


Today, both my Son and I carry 'Counter Assault Bear Deterrent' with our S&W 629's. Never be under gunned. I even carry my S&W 686 when I walk my dog.

Bears and hogs, ya just never know. I am not a hunter, but I can and will if it came down to animal or me. This is a great forum to share life experiences. Thanks for your interest. Hutch

I found the photo I took on the second day where the bear and I had our stand off the next evening.

I normally carry a J-frame when I walk my dog in our neighborhood. It's residential, but there are still a lot of heavily wooded lots providing shelter for coyotes, snakes, bobcats, etc. On the other hand, this thread has got me rethinking the utility of carrying a large bore revolver in the woods. No doubt a carefully aimed shot with a 357 magnum could kill any wild animal or reptile east of the Mississippi. But unless you're hunting, what's the likelihood of being able to take such a carefully aimed shot in a sudden confrontation? In that case, a heavier bullet and perhaps a little more power makes sense as extra insurance.

Florida doesn't allow open carry and I really don't feel like trying to conceal my 5" N-frame from a bunch of smartphone-wielding tourists (you know, the ones who think taking a selfie with an alligator is a good idea). Maybe all those forum members recommending a model 69 were on to something Although, a 696 would be more my style. If nothing else, 44 spl shot shells throw a whole lot more lead than the 38 spl variety.

My around town and woodsy walk with my dog...





When my son was little I would walk around the neighborhood with him on my shoulders when he was tired. I had a Rottweiler run up to me and stop in front of me barking. I pulled my 686 357 mag as my son sat on my shoulders and was very close to dropping that large dog. The owner ran out and grabbed to dog taking him to his yard. Like I say, you never know.

Fish4bass101: IMHO the perfect woods pistol, for me anyway is my 22LR 6 inch barrel S&W 617. I carry it in a soft leather Bandolier type Holster Rig most of the time. When I go for walks in the Woods or walking up and down the the banks of a small stream or river. But I turn 74 last Oct, so my walks in the Woods are getting much shorter now days. And I am getting way more critical of the weather. And I just don`t go unless it is nice day.
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I have a 10-month old son who has changed my attitude about safety and situational awareness. Not that I was exactly nonchalant about it before, but I'm less insouciant than I used to be. I plan to take him out for some local hikes this summer (if I can ever find the time) to get him used to the woods in preparation for a trip to Sayanogorsk and the Urals to visit the inlaws in September that will include some hiking and camping.

You, sir, have some fine revolvers and photograph them extraordinarily well!

I've seen quite a few handmade holsters on the Net, but that one of yours looks fully professional. And it's what I'd choose for a basic holster for that gun.

I'm glad those dogs didn't get you. We should really think more about dog or coydog packs when choosing an outdoors gun.

The ruger Redhawk in 41mg or 44mg with a 4.2” barrel. Unless you plan on handgun hunting then a 5.5” or 7.5” barrel.

Riding a quad with a bear chasing you the bigger gun shooting one hand maybe tough?

I just red a story about a Sargent who was there. A mad Bigfoot took out some guys. It took a 1,000 rounds she estimated they fired to stop it. I can’t go into exact details. Finding Bigfoot turned into hunting Bigfoot. With a 223? Nothing will ever get close to me in the wilds. Be safe.

These are my primary Wood-Gun(s) OP... I carry the M29, the wifey the M629. Both are loaded with Buffalo Bores 255grain Keith Hard Cast .44Specials rated at 1,000 fps. I'm seeing about 940-950fps velocity with both of these which is more than plenty enough punch for anything in the Continental States. They are pretty easy to carry with DeSantis OWB holster and either a Beltman Bullhide belt or the new military style cinch belt types. It's all about the holster/belt combo that makes carrying a Woods Gun or any gun comfortable and practical. I like the 3" barrel the best for concealability and just as important the way it balances so well for me! I can shoot .44Special all day out of either of these. I carry Underwood hard cast .44Mags as on speed strips in case I need a reload. I trust both these loads to take any kind of threat in the woods. For the nightly dog walks I'll carry the M29, same holster, same belt, but loaded with .44Special Gold Dots.

Now that I know where you live I have a better understanding of your needs. I live in Texas, and while stomping in the field I carry a Mod 60-10 which is a 3" .357 with no lock if I want a really light carry. It's good with snake shot, light 38s, and any .357 you're comfortable shooting, and very concealable. Being that I reload, this is a very versatile side arm for anything from two to four legged Texas varmints.

When I go fly fishing in Colorado I carry a 629-5 Mountain gun which is a 44 magnum. My only worry up there would be a rare black bear intervention or a mad moose. Once again I'm covered for anything from two to four legged encounters.

When I'm down south near the Mexican border, it's time for my 1911s, and AR. The reasons are obvious these days.

I think if I were making a recommendation based on what you have said, I would go for any quality 4" or longer barreled .357 that you are comfortable shooting. The key is to load heavy and practice. practice, practice. Get really proficient at drawing quickly ,and shooting with one or two hands standing up or shooting from your back on the ground. Sounds crazy, but where bears are around you never know what's coming.

Picked my 4.25" 69 up a coupla years ago as a sidearm for be-boppin around the woods, tracking shot critters at the hunt club and just GP's. First thing ordered was a Guide's Choice chest rig. That has been an excellent holster for making the l'il 44 blend in to the rest of me.
And as some have said, it's "perky" with grown up loads. But very comfy with something mebbe a bit mo' practical right around supersonic. That combo is a keeper.

PS- Well worn Guide's Choice. It's been in the woods, on the tractor and 4 wheeler a-plenty! d;^)

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Update: Okay guys, I now have 2 revolvers that I can say are my “woods gun”. I bought a 6” 686-4 for hunting season and a 3” 65-3 for my full time carry in the woods and trail riding. I planned to get a model 60 but I picked up the 65 at a local gun show for a deal and man it is a good shooter.
I will keep my eyes open for a Mountain Gun, but they are hard to come by...and pricey.

Here's mine for woods, plains, mountains, desert.

S&W Model 625-9 "Mountain Gun" in .45 Colt




Thanks for looking at my Mountain Gun.

God bless,
Birdgun

I've never felt undergunned with my model 57.

I carry my model 19

As you can see from the variety of responses, the answer to your question is intensely personal, and the answer you settle on must be personal to you.. That said, my personal solution to your question would be to pull out my Model 60-4 (3” barrel with underlug, adjustable sights, and 38 Spl chambering) and load it with 38 +P hollow points. Anywhere here in Central VA that I should be going, this would be sufficient. If I were expecting a woods apocalypse, I’d carry a heavy rifle, a 12 ga pump shotgun, and my 44 mag... or better yet, stay safe at home with lots of guns and ammo!

Froggie

I second the Mountain Gun in .45 Colt or .44 mag. The 329 is also a good option, but I worry about longevity with regular use.

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Quite possibly the perfect “Woods Gun”. With a recent GB auction hammered at $1499, they’re out of my price range .

I like a .38 or .357 for a woods carry gun.
But be sure to check your local laws before carrying a loaded firearm on an ATV or vehicle of any kind. Many states have regulations against carrying loaded firearms on vehicles unless the operator has a carry permit. Even if the firearm isn't concealed.

You don't want a revolver. You want a Glock model 23. The ballistics of the 40S&W equal the 357mag in a lighter, higher capacity, more reliable, less maintenance package.

Then if you decide you need a power upgrade, I would suggest looking at the S&WM329pd.

Hmmm, I think I just resurrected my first corpse thread

Here's mine. An M69 in a Mernickle holster with a Vortex red dot because it stays on for 14 hours.

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cgt4570, that is a lovely custom revolver. I love it when guys tweek guns to work for their needs, I don't much care for leaving things stock just because its worth more original.

As for a woods gun, someone mentioned on here that only city folk suggest a 9mm. Well, most city folk are afraid of my neck of the woods, they say its too close to deliverance for them. And my primary carry guns are a Glock 26 or a S&W 649 (day-to-day), but I also mix in a 657PC when I feel more like I need more wheel gun time. For nighttime hikes I switch to open carrying a glock 17L with mounted light, because I live in the center of three active coyote packs. They leave me alone, but I'm always worried they will want to tussle with my dog.

Thing is, in the woods, camping, my daily hikes, or even special hikes deep into the adirondacks, I feel perfectly fine with my glock. Its easy to hide from the large amount of city-folk that clutter the main trails, and its durable enough to take a dunk or mud bath if the weather turns crummy. At the same time, its light enough not to make me suffer too badly, though I have summited a few of the high peaks and even a polymer 9mm can feel like a boat anchor by the time you are done.

I've had two run-ins with bear in my life, both were in the campsite and both times they were just passing through. Maybe if I had a trail encounter I would feel differently, but I really don't feel undergunned with a 9mm in the woods.

Woods carry depends on time of the year.

Warm weather: One on the bottom: Model 60-4


Cold weather, not hunting: Model 696


Cold weather, during hunting season: Model 29-3


Don't have to worry about bears on my farm. We occasionally see one but they have always run away. Last one that was seen, a fellow hunting with me said that it would have taken two to see him, "one to say here he come and one to say there he goes" at the same time.

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In my perpetual habit of inventing a 'need niche' for handguns, I've admittedly beat the 'woods gun' thing to death.
Bears in my area are rarely, if ever an issue. Most will be gone from any area you walk into.

But growing up with the illustrated covers of Sports Afield and such as well as "This Happened to Me!" columns indelibly etched into my brain - I've accumulated much hardware under the guise of 'woods gun'.
I also actually handgun hunt primarily, so the two sorta integrate some.

Starting in the small calibers -
S&W M63 4" .22 - an actual 'Kit Gun'. Extreme in practicality, in a high-ride Lobo thumbreak.

H&R M999 Sportsman .22 6". Classic ol' budget break-top in an older Hunter field holster.

S&W M15 .38 4". Loaded with a couple of shotshells, followed by warm hardcast LSWC's. A much-worn old M15 with most finish gone. In an old Bianchi 5B thumbreak. Lotta miles on this one.

S&W M66 .357 4". My old service revolver. Lived with it every day from ~1980 - 1990. Some sentimental value. Shotshells and some sort of .357 loads, depending on area and time of year.

S&W M65 4" Used as M66 above but obtained to reduce wear or risks on the M66 above (yes, ridiculous, I know)

Ruger Security Six SS .357 4" Used as M66 and M65 above, but obtained to reduce wear and risks on the S&W's. (yes, ridiculous, I know)

Colt Delta Elite SS 10mm Usually loaded with very warm Hornady 180 gr XTP's. Field holster is usually the Bianchi 'UM84?' flap holster.

S&W M58 .41 Mag. 4". Actually do hunt with this one and have taken a few deer. Sometimes carried just as hiking or woods bumming gun also.

Ruger Blackhawk Bisley .44 Spl. 5.5" Growing up and devouring all the printed Elmer Keith I could, this is the closest I'll get to his '#5 Revolver'.
Again shotshells and hardcast LSWC's using the 'Skeeter load'.
Have hunted with this one, but it's currently jinxed.

Charles Daly M1911 .45 5". Usually loaded with a 230 gr Gold Dot's, my old duty round. Have lots of it. Bought as a 'stand-in beater' for woods carry to reduce wear and risk to my Colt Series 70. Shoots and handles better than a cheap beater even should. (yes, ridiculous, I know)

S&W M1937 Brazilian .45 ACP revolver, parkerized. Great woods gun, can't hardly hurt it. (I own a near pristine M1917......the Brazilian was bought to, well, you already know,,,,) (PIC)

Latest possible woods gun is a RIA M1911 .38 Super 5". Just got dies and have brass coming for it. Got a good deal on it, and there's not much you can hurt on a RIA, so it holds promise.

Too bad we don't have Grizzlies and Moose here....I'd have even more hardware devoted to 'woods guns'.

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Agree, if I could only have one, this is it.

60-15

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Len,

There are grizzlies and moose at the NC Zoo and you never know when one will escape and make it into the woods near your place.

Might need to start looking for a new woods gun.

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Mine vary by day and season. All get toted to and in the woods. None are speciall for that endevor only.

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To share, a 317, 63, or 34 are my first choices for the National Forests in western NC. They are small enough and light enough (esp. the 317) that they add no appreciable weight when hiking up and down hills. The first 2 or 3 chambers are always loaded with CCI shot shells if during snake season.

IF I should be in the woods and anticipate a threat by something bigger, a Smith 66, 15, or even a cute little (somewhat rare) 60-4 w/ 3" full lug barrel may be employed.

Where I live, I have never felt threatened enough to carry one of my N framed cannons. ..........too heavy and bulky.

Some friends have asked why I carry a M69, 44 Mag in the woods. It's because the CCI 44 shot shells hold more pellets than the 357s. We have Copperheads, Cottonmouths, and Timber Rattlers, although I've never seen a rattler here. Luckily, of all the snakes I've run into, I've never had to shoot one. We get an occasional bear here in central VA, but very, very rarely, so I use handloads that are about heavy 44 Specials. Don't feel the need for Magnums, which are more difficult to deal with when you're 73.

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Model 29 3" in a custom leather crossdraw loaded with Buffalo Bore "Deer Grenades" ... +P 240 grain softcast hollow cavity. Still moving at about 1425 FPS out of my snubby. Brutal round.

I hope your M29 is a -4 or later model with that round! I love your dedication either way! I was shooting Underwood's 305grain and Prvi Partizan 300's at over 1200fps out of my M29-3 w/3" barrel regularly until I realized it didin't have the endurance package... only about 500 rounds of the heavy stuff as I only had it two months before the revelation. I've since bought a 629-5 to sling the "Big Uglies" out of that I love to carry for the woods and laying down steel plates!

Ham Hands and The Truth,

Not that it really matters, but are those actual chronograph numbers from your 3" gun(s)? If so what was the temperature?

Thanks,

Paul

It's a 29-3. It's actually a pretty rare piece from what I've researched. It's either a 1985 or a 1986 Lew Horton overrun. I don't have the box but it has a Lew Horton product code associated with its serial # (which is also within known LH serial ranges) which means it was made for LH, but according to LH it never went to LH. I should really get a letter for it. I almost feel bad shooting it, but I also take extremely good care of it.

As for the +P 44mag, this gun has only shot about 25 of 'em, and I doubt it'll shoot more than 100 of 'em in its lifetime, or mine anyway. I think it would take more than a few hundred of them to wear the gun out.

Negative, I have not had a chance to confirm Buffalo Bore's numbers with a chrono. Their site lists velocities all the way down to a 4" barrel though, as they claim 1466 FPS out of a 4" Mountain Gun. They list 1535 FPS out of a 5.5", so I figure about 40 FPS slower than 4" velocities is right around what I'd be seeing. This is just an estimation.

Deer Grenade .44 Magnum +P Pistol & Handgun Ammunition

As so many here have already pointed out, what they carry depends on what they think the potential problems or threats they could encounter might be. In most of the lower 48 the most likely predator to have trouble with is the two legged variety; next in line (depending on location) are mountain lions and black bears. Wolves and dogs (feral or not) I suppose can be added to the list. Mostly these days I carry a lightly customized Browning Hi Power (pre cast frame) Mk III. Forest or city; it doesn't matter. A Colt Delta in 10mm gets carried some, as do 1911s in .45. Before I worked in forensics I carried revolvers mostly when out and about, and I still do pack my 60-10 when I'm carrying a long gun, hunting. Its up to you, your wallet and your ability to learn the piece you pick.

ITS VERY HARD TO BEAT A MOUNTAIN GUN FOR WOODS WALKING......

BELOW ARE MY 3, LEFT TO RIGHT.....

A M686+, WHICH OFFERS 7 ROUNDS IN THE MOST DIVERSE ARRAY OF FACTORY AMMO, FROM LIGHT TARGET LOADS IN .38 SPL TO HEAVY HUNTING LOADS IN .357 MAGNUM.....

A M629, WHICH OFFERS A DIVERSE ARRAY OF FACTORY AMMO FROM .44 SPL TO HARD CAST HEAVY SOLIDS, CAPABLE OF DEEP PENETRATION, AND SMASHING THE HEAVY BONES, OF THE LARGEST DANGEROUS ANIMALS, ROAMING THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT......

FINALLY, THE LAST, ON THE RIGHT---ALSO SHOWN IN THE SOLO PIC, IS A M625 IN .45 COLT. THERE IS A

GOOD ARRAY OF AMMO FROM MILD COWBOY LOADS TO HEAVY HUNTING LOADS.....

YOUR CHOICE OF THE 3 SHOULD BE DICTATED BY WHAT YOU EXPECT TO ENCOUNTER IN THE WOODS THAT YOU ROAM.....

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*shrugs*

THOSE ARE 2 BEAUTIES, Ham Hands. BOTH ARE VERY WELL SUITED FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSES---ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR EXCELLENT CHOICES OF AMMO......

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