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Old 07-20-2018, 01:34 PM
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I have a model 69, L frame in .44 magnum. I also have a 686+, L frame in .357 magnum with 3" barrel. I really like the model 69 but cannot "like" the 686+. Been considering selling/trading it for a 66-8 combat magnum. I had a model 66-??, 2.5" barrel a few years ago and was offered more money than I thought it was worth so I sold it. Now wish I had it back. The new, 66-8 has very strong appeal to me.
What say those of you that have either or both? Not at all concerned about "Hillery holes" (locks).
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:49 PM
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The internal lock is a non issue with me, and probably with most... I like the 66-8 combat magnum. I'd sell the 686 & get use the dough to get the 66 combat. keep the 69 because everyone needs a 44 magnum.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:54 PM
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I am probably the wrong person to reply since I cannot "like" the 44 Magnum in any configuration. Meanwhile, I REALLY LIKE the 686+ in any configuration - I have a 2.5", a 3", and a 4". Moreover, I find the .357 Magnum a far more useful gun than the .44 Magnum for almost every purpose.

I know. Blasphemy. Sacrilege. It jus' beez dat weigh. (And I see the comment above mine is completely opposed to my theory!)

That said, a Model 66 is an extremely versatile firearm. It's lighter weight makes it more convenient than a 686 if you're toting it around on your person although I don't have an issue with any of my 686s in that respect. Nonetheless, I sure don't try to carry them concealed. A short barreled 66 would be easy to conceal.

I have no 66s but I adore the original blued version, the Model 19; I have two presently, a 4" and a 2.5" and, eventually, I will acquire a 2" rarity. I know who has it and it is promised to me. So I can easily recommend a 66 as long as you don't beat it up at the range shooting too many full house magnum loads.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:58 PM
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I have a blonde but 'cannot "like" her.' The new freckled red head "has very strong appeal to me." No body is married. What should I do?

Satisfying likes is not a technical question about engineering changes. However, unlike women, you can keep the 686+ in the back of the safe for day you get tired of the 66-8.
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:11 PM
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I have a blonde but 'cannot "like" her.' The new freckled red head "has very strong appeal to me." No body is married. What should I do?

Satisfying likes is not a technical question about engineering changes. However, unlike women, you can keep the 686+ in the back of the safe for day you get tired of the 66-8.
Trade the blonde for a new gun.
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:14 PM
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I have a 2 1/2" 66-7. Similar to the -8 except for the detent lockup and a slightly different two piece barrel. I also own a 686+ PRO in 5". I really like the 686+ but the fact is I like my 66-7 more. At 25 meters I shoot it just as well as the 686+. It's lighter and easier to carry (woods carry not concealed) and maybe because of the shorter sight radius I find I get back on target much faster with the 66-7. Now then, having said all that I will add that if I had a 3" 686+ instead of the 5" I might like it more.

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Old 07-20-2018, 03:27 PM
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Trade in the old 44 for a couple of new 22s!
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:30 PM
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I have every barrel length between 3"-7" in a 686.
I'm currently shooting a 66-8 4.25" with a red dot and it may actually be more accurate than a 686. I'm actually shooting it again this weekend. I like all its features; tensioned 2 piece barrel. Ball detent. K frame. 36oz. + the weight of the scope. It's a 6 shot. You don't mind shooting 6 accurate shots. 9mm 124gr 38 short colt cases. Starline brass.

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Old 07-20-2018, 03:49 PM
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I have a model 69, L frame in .44 magnum. I also have a 686+, L frame in .357 magnum with 3" barrel. I really like the model 69 but cannot "like" the 686+. Been considering selling/trading it for a 66-8 combat magnum. I had a model 66-??, 2.5" barrel a few years ago and was offered more money than I thought it was worth so I sold it. Now wish I had it back. The new, 66-8 has very strong appeal to me.
What say those of you that have either or both? Not at all concerned about "Hillery holes" (locks).
Buy the #627PC 8-shot with AT LEAST the 2-5/8in barrel. I DID. You will not regret it. Geeeezz. it almost has me rethinking my "bought new" 4in #686 NO-DASH from 1986. I really think it is that good, as long as you can get past the possible QC issues that S&W seem to be having with new guns.

Just my opinion,... since I had to DIY my last two S&W purchases in the past 3-4yr (one the PC and one from the retail side). Once DIY'd they seem great, just be prepared for the needed/necessary DIY tweaks... FYI, the DIYs were basically lube/trigger jobs.

Yeah, yeah, I am biased... Love my S&W #686 No-Dash from 1986...

OH, and finally, I CHOOSE to ignore your political references...
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:18 PM
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My 3" 686p is one of my favorite guns.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:35 PM
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I have a model 69, L frame in .44 magnum. I also have a 686+, L frame in .357 magnum with 3" barrel. I really like the model 69 but cannot "like" the 686+. Been considering selling/trading it for a 66-8 combat magnum. I had a model 66-??, 2.5" barrel a few years ago and was offered more money than I thought it was worth so I sold it. Now wish I had it back. The new, 66-8 has very strong appeal to me.
What say those of you that have either or both? Not at all concerned about "Hillery holes" (locks).
In mid-size .357 Magnum revolvers, my preference is in the following order:

1. 686 Plus Mountain Gun (out of production)
2. 66-8
3. 686 Mountain Gun (6-shot version) (out of production)
4. 686 Plus
5. 686 standard 6 shot
6. Earlier 66s

As the 686 Plus Mountain Gun is no longer in production (bad move, S&W), the 66-8 seems the logical choice over the heavy barrel 686 Plus.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:40 PM
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I like your thinking! You won't regret the 66.




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Old 07-20-2018, 10:36 PM
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My 66-8 is outstanding, as are the rest of my of my “ New Smiths.”
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Old 07-21-2018, 05:03 AM
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You know both; you don't like the 686 you own; you miss the 66 you sold. So, what are you waiting to the deal?
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:32 AM
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But I like Blondes!!! Can I trade the Redhead???
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:47 AM
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Yeah, go for it. Life's too short to shoot guns you don't want to shoot.

But out of curiosity, what don't you like about the 686?

A 2.5" 66 would be a gun most of us would miss. So I feel your pain.
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Old 07-21-2018, 11:20 AM
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Don't trade or sell the 686. In fact don't trade or sell any nice guns. Acquire guns while the acquiring is relatively easy. I regret selling just about every gun I have sold.
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Old 07-21-2018, 12:37 PM
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I have both and I am glad I don't have to decide which to keep. The 2.75" 66-8 is lighter, but I shoot the 3" 686 Plus a bit better in quick fire (the little extra weight seems to help steady the gun) and I like having a 7th shot.
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Old 07-21-2018, 12:45 PM
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I like both my 69 and 686+3". Wouldn't get rid of either and carry both, but not at the same time.
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Old 07-21-2018, 12:55 PM
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Unless I am missing something, you are comparing a good big gun with a good little gun. At my ripe young age of 77 I would try to have both.
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Old 07-21-2018, 03:38 PM
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When my wife turned 40 I told here I was going to trade her in for two 20 year olds. She smiled and told me I wasn’t wired for 220.


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Parting with the model 69 was never the question. It will stay, I really like that gun. Even thou the 686+ is the same frame and internals, but different caliber, I do not care for it. Can't really say why. I will likely obtain a 66-8 combat magnum and also keep the 686+, at least for awhile. If it becomes a safe queen I will find it a new home.
I appreciate all the comments that have been posted.
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I wouldn't trade my 686 for a 66-anything. But I do plan on supplementing it with a 66-8 in the very near future.
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If your M69 is a snubby then you've gotta get a M66-8 snubby to match. It's my only K-frame but it's a great shooting revolver, as is the M69.

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I don't think you'll go wrong with a 66-8. It feels and carries much better for me than a short barrel 686.
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