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Help me out, 586-1
Hi guys. I have tried this before but I didnt come up with much. I have a 586-1 that is satin / chrome plated / something. There are no notes or box to help me with the specs. It does not appear in any way to be an after market job. I am looking for help from professionals like you guys here.
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AUR 7389
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Hmm
From the lighting in your pictures, I can’t tell if it has the frosted look of hard chrome or yellow hue of matte e nickel. Looks more like natural stainless. I wonder if it was misstamped? I can tell you the “M” denotes it’s been back to factory for the firing pin bushing recall. If it was plated, it was likely done after the recall work.
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More pics
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This revolver could be ordered in Nickel until 1992. Yours is probably dated to 87 and looks like matte-nickel to me.
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Were the Nickel mark as 586 and anything special like an "N" or anything?
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Usually, there is an N on the cylinder and on the grip frame, but I am no expert. One other thing, my nickel 586 has a blued trigger and hammer.
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Usually, there is an N on the cylinder and on the grip frame, but I am no expert. One other thing, my nickel 586 has a blued trigger and hammer.
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I dont have alot of experience with the nickel versions but I was under the impression that they were marked.
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This doesn't look like nickel at all to me. I suggest it is one of the chrome alloy finishes. The plated hammer and trigger gives it away. Should be a great, nearly indestructible shooter.
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Since you have the box tell us the product code. That will describe how it was when it left the factory. If it's some rare variation, the pc will tell us that. If it's a plain Jane, we'll know it's aftermarket.
A picture of the label would be best.
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Since you have the box tell us the product code. That will describe how it was when it left the factory. If it's some rare variation, the pc will tell us that. If it's a plain Jane, we'll know it's aftermarket.
A picture of the label would be best.
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I don't have the original box unfortunately. I wish I did, that would help a lot as you stated.
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I am interested in what it is. I have not seen anything like it from the factory. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I am curious. Did you look for the stampings on the cylinder and frame ? If so, what did you see ? I can't see why someone would do an after market satin finish when they could just buy a 686.
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This revolver could be ordered in Nickel until 1992. Yours is probably dated to 87 and looks like matte-nickel to me.
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Old Chief always coming through. We may have a winner.
I have attached some frame pictures
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Satin nickel was not an option from the factory. Looks Armoloy finish.
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I don’t recall any matte nickel Smiths, at least 586s from that era. My buddy had a factory 2.5” 586-1, but it was bright nickel. As others have mentioned, factory nickel guns have color case hardened triggers and hammers.
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Peak53 nailed it. It does appear from the pictures that the hammer and trigger are plated, and S&W didn't do that on nickel guns.
Probably Armoloy as pointed out, a great finish, much tougher than nickel.
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All other remarks notwithstanding, the large block N shown in the grip frame pictures you posted shows the gun came from the factory as Nickel plated.
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It is possible that the hammer and trigger were swapped out. As stated by Alk8944 it is stamped on the frame with a "N". So it was likely nickel from S&W. Not saying it wasnt refinished but it should have originally been Nickel.
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It is possible that the hammer and trigger were swapped out. As stated by Alk8944 it is stamped on the frame with a "N". So it was likely nickel from S&W. Not saying it wasnt refinished but it should have originally been Nickel.
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I agree that it was likely refinished. Not sure how you get matte nickel from a bright nickel finish or get a matching matte hammer and trigger. I am with the Metaloy/hard chrome theory. Matte nickel has a pronounced yellow hue, like this RIA 1911.
Looks nice!
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Nice, it looks like a Model 10-6 I got from a retired Police Officer who got it from his dad who carried it in the 70s. Hard Chrome finish looks good and wears well.
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I can tell you the “M” denotes it’s been back to factory for the firing pin bushing recall. If it was plated, it was likely don’t after the recall work.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but the only "M" that I see is the one immediately preceding the model number. The M in this case is the abbreviation for "model". If I'm correct then this 586 hasn't had the FP recall.
My vote is for an aftermarket hard chrome finish.
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It was hardchromed.
They hardchromed the hammer and trigger too.
It looks good.
Hardchromed finishes are great.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but the only "M" that I see is the one immediately preceding the model number. The M in this case is the abbreviation for "model". If I'm correct then this 586 hasn't had the FP recall.
My vote is for an aftermarket hard chrome finish.
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This is terrible. I was thinking it had been back for a factory recall!
Now I may have to send it off. I dont want to be away from it for that long. It really is a great piece. Regardless of this finish I love it. It is likely hard chromed and I am ok with that.
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The 586 was made in a mate nckel-but there evidently weren't many of the made. I had a chance to buy one way back, and I didn't.
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Bump for conversation, also I still have this one.
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If you don't have issues without the FP mod I would not send it back. I have 3 early L frames only one has the FP mod
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I have one 586 without the modified firing pin/bushing. Works fine with all ammo I have tried so far. I have no plans to send mine in. I think there is some discussion here about what kind of primers had caused the problem the recall was designed to fix. The second pic shows where the M overstamp would have been.
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What finish is on the extractor star?
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never did send it in and have never had a problem with it either. I just can't stand to part with it for long. This one is a favorite of mine somewhat because it is an oddity. It is a mysterious beauty for sure and a good conversation piece.
I never got a certain answer on why it is finished like it is or even what that finish is. I like it either way.
The extractor pin on mine is finished just like the rest of the gun, "shiny".
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What finish is on the extractor star?
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Since I’m guessing a refinish, I’m betting the extractor star, like the hammer and trigger is chromed.
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This revolver could be ordered in Nickel until 1992. Yours is probably dated to 87 and looks like matte-nickel to me.
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I have a 586 no dash nickel. They DID NOT offer matte nickel on these guns. Pics can make things look different......THEN. Speculation runs rampant.
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FWIW, the factory offered matte nickle refinish in the early 90s...I had them refinish my blued model 49. I had it refinished from blue to matte nickle because it I carried it as a back up weapon and it kept getting a little rusty. The matte finish also covered up a few dings in the metal.
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Since I’m guessing a refinish, I’m betting the extractor star, like the hammer and trigger is chromed.
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Just to my point John. To my knowledge the factory never plated the extractor, matt nickel or not. OP mention the extractor pin is plated so…
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FWIW, the factory offered matte nickle refinish in the early 90s...I had them refinish my blued model 49. I had it refinished from blue to matte nickle because it I carried it as a back up weapon and it kept getting a little rusty. The matte finish also covered up a few dings in the metal.
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Did the factory plate extractor and mark butt with the N?
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Just to my point John. To my knowledge the factory never buckled the extractor, matt nickel or not. OP mention the extractor pin is plated so…
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Yes, it was your post that reminded me that a factory, or factory refinished nickel revolver will not have a nickel extractor star and got me to essentially re ask your Q.
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Yes, it was your post that reminded me that a factory, or factory refinished nickel revolver will not have a nickel extractor star and got me to essentially re ask your Q.
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Ha! Great minds and all that same page stuff. LOL. Until I saw the N marking on the butt I was sure it was a miss marked 686.
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After a clear closeup of the S&W logo I'm in the 'refinished' camp. Nice piece regardless. As the caretaker of a non M stamped 581 and 586 4" I'd be proud to own it. I think these are the perfect all-around revolvers.
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After a clear closeup of the S&W logo I'm in the 'refinished' camp. Nice piece regardless. As the caretaker of a non M stamped 581 and 586 4" I'd be proud to own it. I think these are the perfect all-around revolvers.
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Yep nice revolver. I think it’s refinished also but I would also be proud to show it off!
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