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What did I just buy? 29-10 3"
Well....I just couldn't pass up this little Model 29-10 I found. It's a 3-inch barrel with square butt grip frame. I'm guessing it's one of their "Classic" series, but I can't find any information on it anywhere. Figured I'd ask here and see what you guys come up with....
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Have you taken off the grips and made sure it is a square butt? I am far from being an expert(or even knowledgeable enough to answer most questions),but I have never seen/heard of a 3"like you have with a square butt.
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Ah. The one from calguns right?
I thought the same. I've never seen one like it. But, with SAW , I've learned to say, never say never.
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Congrtulations on a great find
It is a square butt
No it is not part of the Classic series. It is a Lew Horton exclusive offering.
Lew Horton had them built on the 4 screw, square butt N-frame. He also did the 45ACP Model 25s in 3"
Both calibers were offered in Blue or nickel.
the original plan was to produce 350 of the blue and 250 of the nickel in each caliber
These were run in 2005/6 if my memory is working today
An E-mail to Earl over at Lew Horton's will get you all the specifics
Foolishly I passed on the Model 25s back then
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Yes...This is the one off the Calguns forum. Living in this goofy state with all the silly restrictions, I've learned to jump on anything interesting that I find locally. No box / paperwork / etc. included with it, but it was offered at what I thought was a fair price by a gentleman who I had dealt with before.
This state has a holding period before I can bring it home, so now I'm just trying to figure out what it is. Sounds like I got a bit luckier than I thought if it is a Lew Horton gun. Honestly, I was looking for a shooter rather than something to put in the safe. Do these have the same collector value as the earlier 3" revolvers? I know that people generally don't like the guns with the locks and the MIM parts. I've been a fan of that barrel length for a while now and have been lucky enough to acquire a few. I certainly paid far less for this one than I did on my others. If the above posted production numbers are correct, this might actually be the rarest of the lot?
It's been fun putting together a bit of a collection of these little N-Frames.
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I remember the price. You didnt loose.
Here in Kaliforniastan , we have slim pickings. And we cant import from other states due to the roster.
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Congrtulations on a great find
It is a square butt
No it is not part of the Classic series. It is a Lew Horton exclusive offering.
Lew Horton had them built on the 4 screw, square butt N-frame. He also did the 45ACP Model 25s in 3"
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I did not know they made newer frames with 4 screws; I thought those went away with the hand Ejector models.
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Congrats on your new find. I found one a while back and called Lew Horton to determine if mine was actually a LH. This is the letter that Earl sent me. Give them a call, great people.
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I believe these are product code 150119 guns. Lew Horton had 250 made in..... January of 2007.
Square butt with the special 4-screw frame. I think it also would of come with laminated wood Magna diamond style stocks.
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I did not know they made newer frames with 4 screws; I thought those went away with the hand Ejector models.
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They started doing the 4 screw frames for the
Heritage edition revolvers back in 2001. The first ones were round butts
I think the first square butt built on the newer 4 screw frame was the 75th Anniversary 357 Magnum
Smith and Wesson continued with the new square butt 4 screw frame for Lew Horton's release of the 8 shot Registered Magnums in 2004 and 2005
This same frame deisgn carried on in the re-released Model 27s that are currently in production
The re-released Model 22s also use this frame design. They are probably others as well, I just can't recall at the moment
Now a purist will come along and tell us that those are not 4 screw frames because the fourth screw is in the wrong place if you go by where the old revolvers had their four screws, but if you count the screws, there are 4 of them
Someone will then chime in and tell us those are not Registered Magnums. However that is the name they were marketed under. Just like the M&P, Bodyguard and Victory names have been attached to firearms other than what they were half a century ago. We just need to get used to it
And I know they have THE LOCK. It isn't attractive, but so what
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They started doing the 4 screw frames for the
Heritage edition revolvers back in 2001. The first ones were round butts
I think the first square butt built on the newer 4 screw frame was the 75th Anniversary 357 Magnum
Smith and Wesson continued with the new square butt 4 screw frame for Lew Horton's release of the 8 shot Registered Magnums in 2004 and 2005
This same frame deisgn carried on in the re-released Model 27s that are currently in production
The re-released Model 22s also use this frame design. They are probably others as well, I just can't recall at the moment
Now a purist will come along and tell us that those are not 4 screw frames because the fourth screw is in the wrong place if you go by where the old revolvers had their four screws, but if you count the screws, there are 4 of them
Someone will then chime in and tell us those are not Registered Magnums. However that is the name they were marketed under. Just like the M&P, Bodyguard and Victory names have been attached to firearms other than what they were half a century ago. We just need to get used to it
And I know they have THE LOCK. It isn't attractive, but so what
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I do remember when the Heritage models came out; I didn't really like them so I stopped paying attention.
Great info and pics... thanks!
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WOW. Tough to follow that post. But here is a pic of my 29-10 with Ahrends.
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I do remember when the Heritage models came out; I didn't really like them so I stopped paying attention.
Great info and pics... thanks!
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One thing that I forgot to mention. We have Saf-T-Hammer to thank for the return of the Square butts.
Up until they bought Smith and Wesson back from the British, Smith and Wesson was still all round butts
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Thanks for the ad. Looks like I got a decent deal on mine.
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'll have to contact Lew Horton to find out if this little 29-10 is one from that production run. The serial number on mine seems out of sequence ( DJL37xx ), but who knows? Was that run the only time a 3 inch 29-10 was offered?
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With the trouble of getting things approved for sale in California, S&W/LH may not have bothered to go to that expense.
Giving up three revolvers of each variation for drop testing plus paying the fees is a lot of investment for the few California sales it would yield.
You could be in possession of a standard production Model 29 that was returned to the factory to be re-barreled because the LH Exclusive offering was not on the DOJ roster
Call S&W, they will give you the product code and specification on your revolver
Call LH, they will give you a letter if it was a LH Exclusive offering
California is going to lose lots more of the manufacturers over the micro stamping legislation
You guys need to elect different politicians out there if you want to shoot modern firearms
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'll have to contact Lew Horton to find out if this little 29-10 is one from that production run. The serial number on mine seems out of sequence ( DJL37xx ), but who knows? Was that run the only time a 3 inch 29-10 was offered?
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Congrats on a nice score there HD! Yeah, alot of us Calgunners were eye ballin that one!
That variation of 29-10 is listed in the 4th SWSC. As stated, contacting LH is the easiest method of finding if it is one of theirs. Either way a very cool 3". Gotta love that combination of features!
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...The serial number on mine seems out of sequence ( DJL37xx )....
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It's a normal serial number. Nothing special. Gun would of likely shipped in..... September - October 2017.
The Model 29-10 is still in current production on a limited bases.
Do you have your factory box?
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No box was included in this purchase. It was just the gun on a local classified add page offered by a private seller who had taken it as trade. He knew nothing about the gun itself. Funny thing is that he actually had two of them that he had posted for sale back to back. I saw the first add as it sold and thought "I'd have bought that". Then I saw his second add and replied with "I'll take it!"..... LOL!!
I'm not usually that impulsive, but I've learned by missing out on a number of cool guns lately that I just don't have the luxury of prolonged deliberation in the current marketplace locally. The political climate in kalifornia has made acquiring firearms that interest me a real challenge. Items not available for purchase though dealer stock tend to sell for higher than reasonable prices on the private market. If it's not on the stupid CA DOJ Roster, or a "Curio Relic / Exempt Handgun" it can't be acquired easily by the average citizen.
Thankfully, there are a few of us here that have gotten to know each other. That has helped me be able to acquire a few nice pieces over the last couple of years that I'm sure I would otherwise not have been able to obtain.
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I'm sorry ,but the man that decided to place a giant stainless plaque over that beautiful color case hardening should be taken out into the street and flogged.
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Congrtulations on a great find
It is a square butt
No it is not part of the Classic series. It is a Lew Horton exclusive offering.
Lew Horton had them built on the 4 screw, square butt N-frame. He also did the 45ACP Model 25s in 3"
Both calibers were offered in Blue or nickel.
the original plan was to produce 350 of the blue and 250 of the nickel in each caliber
These were run in 2005/6 if my memory is working today
An E-mail to Earl over at Lew Horton's will get you all the specifics
Foolishly I passed on the Model 25s back then
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Actually, there were only 250 each of the Lew Horton 3" 45ACP 25s in blue and Nickel. I unfortunately had to sell mine. On the bright side, I sold it to a good friend who has given me first right of refusal should he ever part with it.
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Congrtulations on a great find
It is a square butt
No it is not part of the Classic series. It is a Lew Horton exclusive offering.
Lew Horton had them built on the 4 screw, square butt N-frame. He also did the 45ACP Model 25s in 3"
Both calibers were offered in Blue or nickel.
the original plan was to produce 350 of the blue and 250 of the nickel in each caliber
These were run in 2005/6 if my memory is working today
An E-mail to Earl over at Lew Horton's will get you all the specifics
Foolishly I passed on the Model 25s back then
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Negative. Those had tapered barrels, and the count was 250/250. What OP has here is a 29-3 barrel wound into a 29-10 frame.
Here’s my LH 29-10 wearing Culina walnut stocks....bc the Altamont Magnas have zero business being on a .44 Magnum...
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Negative. Those had tapered barrels, and the count was 250/250. What OP has here is a 29-3 barrel wound into a 29-10 frame.
Here’s mine wearing Culina walnut stocks....bc the Altamont Magnas have zero business being on a .44 Magnum...
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I have got to stop using my cellphone to read the Forum when I am out.
I never even noticed that the OPs revolver had the 3" heavy barrel on it
Culina makes great grips
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Picked up the 29-10 today. I never have cared for rubber grips, so I had a set of stags sitting here that I figured I'd try out.....They sure do dress it up.
I still need to try contacting S&W and/or Lew Horton and try to figure out what this little gun is. I know some of you said that they didn't make them like this, but it looks unaltered from what I can tell.
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You mean you don't already have (6) of them, hahahahaha! I keed, I keed! You have the best private collection of .44 Smiths I've ever known or seen! Total bad azz!
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25-14 .45ACP Nickel
I just bought this 25-14 yesterday, that is reported to be un-used other than factory firing. It does have a turn line, so it's a least been dry fired, but appears in great condition.
I'm not quite sure why I bought it other than I have a 25ND & 1917 Transitional, so I can use a snub 45 to fill in the gap!
I love the square butt, 3" tapered barrel, Nickel finish (my favorite), and 4th screw on the side plate. They look very cool until you get to the "Lock Her Up" device.
Seems like it will be fun to shoot, once I put some target or combats on, but I'm gettin way ahead of myself. Great thread!
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Well....It looks like someone did some work on this gun. I called Smith & Wesson today and ran the serial number. The lady on the phone told me that by her records it left the factory in 2017 as a 6.5" barrel length. Funny! Whoever decided to swap barrels on this revolver did a pretty good job of it. Is there any way to date the barrel?
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Well....It looks like someone did some work on this gun. I called Smith & Wesson today and ran the serial number. The lady on the phone told me that by her records it left the factory in 2017 as a 6.5" barrel length. Funny! Whoever decided to swap barrels on this revolver did a pretty good job of it. Is there any way to date the barrel?
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I think it’s between 1985 and 86. It’s from the run of 3” 29-3’s ordered by Lew Horton. Smith sold some directly to dealers as well. Those barrels show up from time to time. The real head scratcher for me is that I’ve now seen two older guns converted to 3” using the newer tapered barrel...of which presumably only handful were made for the 500 guns ordered.
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When I purchased my grandson his first 22cal revolver a k22 it started the s&w flu. My last n frame is a nib m24/6.5” 44special in nickel. Why did I buy it the nickel God’s told me too......lol
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