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625 4"
I have acquired this 625-3 4" ( haven't picked it up yet, this is Illinois), and I've read a couple places that the 4" is actually rarer than the 3". Does anyone know if this is true?
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I have a 4" -3 also a new 4". Never even seen a 3"
Tried to post a photo but... well you know.
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Yeah, I know. I'm a total Luddite. With me , getting a pic on here is a crapshoot...
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Pictures.. easy..
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Are those Pachmayrs open-back? I'm looking for something similar for my 625-8 5" (round butt). Got a pair of Grippers but they're closed back and feel a bit big for my hands.
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Are those Pachmayrs open-back?
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Closed back, I don't like them either. They are the originals, but I use other grips for shooting.
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I’ve had a couple 4” -3s and see more of them floating around than the 3”. I don’t know how many of each were made, but in my world the 4” seems more common - the 5” are very common.
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I've seen fewer 4" than 3" - of course all anecdotal. Having said that I might use the phrase "more scarce" rather the "rare" as there were enough made to not call it rare.
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Not sure if relevant, but I believe that S&W offered a program in the mid- to late-1990s that would convert a 5" 625 into a 4" barrel length. This was an effort to appease the folks shooting 625s in IDPA after the sport reduced the max barrel length. That's about all the details I know about it.
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Not sure if relevant, but I believe that S&W offered a program in the mid- to late-1990s that would convert a 5" 625 into a 4" barrel length. This was an effort to appease the folks shooting 625s in IDPA after the sport reduced the max barrel length. That's about all the details I know about it.
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S&W did NOT offer a program to cut 5" down to 4"; BUT a company in Ohio named SDM Fabricating did do it for lots of people who wanted 4" 625s. I believe they are still in business and make replacement front sights with fiber optics. So many people apparently complained that S&W dropped the 5" 625s but has made a lot of 4s. USPSA revolver shooters all use 627s or 929s now.
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S&W 625-8 4"
625-8 4" I have not seen a 3"
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S&W did NOT offer a program to cut 5" down to 4"; BUT a company in Ohio named SDM Fabricating did do it for lots of people who wanted 4" 625s. I believe they are still in business and make replacement front sights with fiber optics. So many people apparently complained that S&W dropped the 5" 625s but has made a lot of 4s. USPSA revolver shooters all use 627s or 929s now.
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From the inception of IDPA, the 5" ruled Revolver Division. A few years later the Founders decided that the 5" was not practical and limited it to 4" or less. Several IDPA competitors suddenly had division illegal guns to deal with.
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I've had three over the years, all 5". To be honest, I didn't know they made anything but 5s
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From the inception of IDPA, the 5" ruled Revolver Division. A few years later the Founders decided that the 5" was not practical and limited it to 4" or less. Several IDPA competitors suddenly had division illegal guns to deal with.
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Yes and now they've moved it to 4 1/4" bbl. due to Canada's rules. The rule-making body of IDPA drives me nuts. The clear bias against moonclips is ludicrous and supposedly caused by revo shooter who was using speedloaders and strenuously objected to moonclips. If I use moonclips I must meet a much higher power factor. Making rules to suit ONE loud complainer is bush league stuff!!!
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To answer your question OP, yes the 4 inch barrel pre-lock 625's are more scarce than the 625 3 inch barrels as they made more of the latter.
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Are those Pachmayrs open-back? I'm looking for something similar for my 625-8 5" (round butt). Got a pair of Grippers but they're closed back and feel a bit big for my hands.
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Check out the Hogue 25012 grips, I really like these and have them on 3 guns so far. The 19012 is similar for round butt K/L frames.
S&W N Frame Round Butt Rubber Conversion No Finger Grooves Monogrip Black
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Going to try the photo thing again. this is my -3. Has had a lot of rounds thru it and is still one of my best.
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I just picked up this 3" a few weeks ago. I also have the 5" so naturally I'm on the lookout for a 4".
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Update: the previous owner evidently did a bubba on the action, but luckily I live fifteen minutes away from Bill Oglesby's shop. I already have it back and the trigger is very nice now.
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These are refered to as Bank Notes. 625-4, three inch barrel.
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I was fortunate a couple years ago to find this 4" -3 with the original box, grips etc. I swapped to the Hogue grips as I'm able to have an improved hold on the revolver with them. Also changed the front sight to the gold dot from SDM. I too had heard there were fewer 4" of the -3 variety.
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The clear bias against moonclips is ludicrous and supposedly caused by revo shooter who was using speedloaders and strenuously objected to moonclips. If I use moonclips I must meet a much higher power factor. Making rules to suit ONE loud complainer is bush league stuff!!!
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It is my understanding that the higher power factor requirement for moon clip guns is to offset the speed of the reload versus speed loader charged guns. If they hadn't made this distinction the division would be dominated by moon clip guns and the .38 Spl's would disappear.
I was under the impression that of the 625-3 iteration, the they did make less 4" barreled than 3" ones. However, over the total production of the 625 thus far, the 4" guns vastly outnumber the 3" guns.
@oldbrownhat - Those are Pachmayr Gripper grips. They were standard equipment on the 625-2's as well.
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bruce, how'd you get the big pic in the post??
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This is just my opinion and take it for what you paid for it. 
Three inch guns are rare, collectively, and command a premium. 5" guns are also, overall, more uncommon. Four inch guns are great packing tools and as such many experienced shooter like them.
I think in this current climate, I would not let go of any now going forward. Obviously, newer still available guns with 3" or 5" will be less than special runs. Consult the book. Watch auctions. You will see a pattern to what collectors want. Any good S&W is better than cash in the bank right now in my opinion. I think we got another 2-4 years of figuring out values, then it will keep pace with inflation mostly, unless the market deems one variant better than the other. Best, TH
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I agree, with one addition: any good prelock Smith & Wesson revolver is better than money in the bank......
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my bud had one unfired in his safe 625-4 sweetalked him out of it... love the platform
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Never found a 4 inch.
Do have a -3 3 inch, and -2 5 inch.
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well, between the two, they even out to 4"
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I have the 3" and the 4". I'd say the 3" is lots harder to find than the 4" or 5"
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I was cruising a local gun show back in the early 90s and a guy had both 3" and 4" 625-3s for sale. They were slightly used but near new condition.....bought 'em both. The 3" has a second trigger and hammer(no spur) installed along with a fixed sight rear. Very nice carry piece which can be restored to original configuration.
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Bob, you done good! About the same time, at a show I traded a Colt 2000 to a guy who thought they were gonna be collectible for two near mint 1917s, one Colt and one Smith.... Just wish I'd been smart enough to hang on to them...... something about 45 ACP revolvers...
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I always wanted a Colt2000 but kept waiting until a few years ago. I forget what I paid but it certainly wasn't big bucks. I still haven't fired it.
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