Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present All NON-PINNED Barrels, the L-Frames, and the New Era Revolvers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-06-2020, 09:42 PM
tygsmith98 tygsmith98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Beaver, WV
Posts: 26
Likes: 29
Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts
Default S&W Model 686-4 2.5Ē rarity

Hello I scored a 686-4 2.5Ē for under $400. I wanted one of the newer ones but the pre-locks hold a special place in my heart. So my question is how rare are these? I see a lot of the newer 686-6 2.5Ē, but not a lot from other dashes.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 01-06-2020, 09:56 PM
Erocksmash's Avatar
Erocksmash Erocksmash is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 608
Likes: 1,056
Liked 690 Times in 258 Posts
Default

Ha! If you got one for 400 dollhairs you got a smoking deal! I dont know anything about rarity, but that's one heck of a deal......

We like pictures as well !?!?
__________________
Just one more!
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 01-06-2020, 09:59 PM
Struckat's Avatar
Struckat Struckat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 218
Likes: 713
Liked 416 Times in 135 Posts
Default

Do you live under a bridge and just come out to taunt?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:04 PM
ditrina's Avatar
ditrina ditrina is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunny Central Florida
Posts: 10,698
Likes: 19,440
Liked 15,339 Times in 3,280 Posts
Default

Go directly to jail do not pass go..
About half the going rate
You bandit you!!

Now I know where there is at least two.. yours and mine.
__________________
SWCA #2306
DAV in honor of POP
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:09 PM
Eddietruett Eddietruett is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,189
Likes: 647
Liked 2,578 Times in 669 Posts
Default

The rare part is finding one for $400. Prelock 686's have held their value well over the last year or so when some S&W models have dropped in value. It is not uncommon to see one go on GB for $800+.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:09 PM
SLT223 SLT223 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,761
Likes: 1,911
Liked 3,744 Times in 1,078 Posts
Default

If it’s s in good shape you certainly used up some gun-luck on that one! Way to start the year off right!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:17 PM
tygsmith98 tygsmith98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Beaver, WV
Posts: 26
Likes: 29
Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erocksmash View Post
Ha! If you got one for 400 dollhairs you got a smoking deal! I dont know anything about rarity, but that's one heck of a deal......

We like pictures as well !?!?
It was actually $369 but it needs new grips something fierce. Iíll try and get some pictures whenever it comes in later this week!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:19 PM
tygsmith98 tygsmith98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Beaver, WV
Posts: 26
Likes: 29
Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ditrina View Post
Go directly to jail do not pass go..
About half the going rate
You bandit you!!

Now I know where there is at least two.. yours and mine.
Iíd love to see some pics of yours. Iím thinking about getting a pair of Altamont boot grips, like the ones on the 586 L-comp. itís gonna be my replacement revolver since my Model 19-4 2.5Ē is off getting reblued, because that thing lived a hard life as a detectives gun!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:20 PM
tygsmith98 tygsmith98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Beaver, WV
Posts: 26
Likes: 29
Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Struckat View Post
Do you live under a bridge and just come out to taunt?
Yes and no. It is quite cold under my bridge this time of the year, but I was legit wondering because I donít see a lot of talk about them lol
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 01-06-2020, 10:36 PM
ditrina's Avatar
ditrina ditrina is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunny Central Florida
Posts: 10,698
Likes: 19,440
Liked 15,339 Times in 3,280 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tygsmith98 View Post
Iíd love to see some pics of yours. Iím thinking about getting a pair of Altamont boot grips, like the ones on the 586 L-comp. itís gonna be my replacement revolver since my Model 19-4 2.5Ē is off getting reblued, because that thing lived a hard life as a detectives gun!
686-4

__________________
SWCA #2306
DAV in honor of POP
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:07 PM
Erocksmash's Avatar
Erocksmash Erocksmash is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 608
Likes: 1,056
Liked 690 Times in 258 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tygsmith98 View Post
It was actually $369 but it needs new grips something fierce. Iíll try and get some pictures whenever it comes in later this week!
369!!! That's crazy I would have bought it without grips for that... GOOD FIND
__________________
Just one more!
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:24 PM
S&W-Keeper S&W-Keeper is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SE-SC
Posts: 1,385
Likes: 561
Liked 63 Times in 47 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ditrina View Post
Go directly to jail do not pass go..
About half the going rate
You bandit you!!

Now I know where there is at least two.. yours and mine.
Make it 4,I have a dash 3,and a dash 4 snubbie.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:29 PM
tygsmith98 tygsmith98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Beaver, WV
Posts: 26
Likes: 29
Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by S&W-Keeper View Post
Make it 4,I have a dash 3,and a dash 4 snubbie.
Dang thatís impressive!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:29 PM
tygsmith98 tygsmith98 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Beaver, WV
Posts: 26
Likes: 29
Liked 16 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ditrina View Post
686-4

What a beauty. I canít wait for mine now!
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #15  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:30 PM
Lou_the_welder's Avatar
Lou_the_welder Lou_the_welder is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Los Angeles,California
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 2,190
Liked 1,881 Times in 699 Posts
Default

Not a -4. But a -3 686.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:42 PM
wood714's Avatar
wood714 wood714 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: East Coast, FL.
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 1,608
Liked 3,733 Times in 824 Posts
Default

686-1 that I paid $500 for. Hate the boot grips, ordered a set of Ahrends like the ones pictured below for it. Should get them around the end of the month.



Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-06-2020, 11:52 PM
Bobbysixkiller's Avatar
Bobbysixkiller Bobbysixkiller is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Rural NW Oklahoma
Posts: 1,042
Likes: 977
Liked 1,384 Times in 385 Posts
Default

686-6 3 inch wearing some culina stocks
Attached Thumbnails
-d4d52ed7-fcb4-4458-b014-161e83ca7adb-jpg  
__________________
No gold. Only lead. Bobby
Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Like Post:
  #18  
Old 01-07-2020, 12:56 AM
mbliss57's Avatar
mbliss57 mbliss57 is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 5,001
Likes: 5,959
Liked 6,821 Times in 1,935 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wood714 View Post
686-1 that I paid $500 for. Hate the boot grips, ordered a set of Ahrends like the ones pictured below for it. Should get them around the end of the month.









Thatís a dash 1 .. 1986.. $500 was a lot of money 33 years ago! These prices are outrageous. Maybe the sellers were blind or couldnít see? Those are all gorgeous snubbys! Very nice all of them.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
John 1:17
NRA Life Benefactor
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-07-2020, 02:36 AM
Mehutch's Avatar
Mehutch Mehutch is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Seattle Washington
Posts: 651
Likes: 2,951
Liked 2,389 Times in 501 Posts
Default

Wow... I bought mine for - $299.95 (12-1996) I carry it half the time. I love mine. But you got a smoking deal. Go out and test fire it just to make sure.



Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-07-2020, 08:03 AM
CHARLIE699 CHARLIE699 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Coast of America
Posts: 95
Likes: 101
Liked 226 Times in 42 Posts
Default

This is my only 686 2.5". It's a "no-dash" and YES, confirmed LEW HORTEN. Picked it up for under $300. O.T.D. at a Gander Mountain some years back.

Last edited by CHARLIE699; 01-07-2020 at 08:09 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-07-2020, 08:07 AM
CH4's Avatar
CH4 CH4 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Nevada/Philippines
Posts: 3,822
Likes: 8,178
Liked 6,872 Times in 2,297 Posts
Default

I donít know how many Smith made, but my -4 plus is the only one Iíve seen in the wild. I bought it at a gun show for $650 a couple years ago and didnít realize it was a 7 shot until after I got her home - already having a 2.5Ē no dash and -3 I just assumed it was a six shooter. $400 is a crazy good price.
Attached Thumbnails
-074d5419-f4fe-4808-92c0-f4f1da8945b2-jpg   -09443eb0-8b27-4ceb-8db1-41d5a0393807-jpg  
__________________
FBINA 213

Last edited by CH4; 01-07-2020 at 09:20 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-07-2020, 10:00 AM
Struckat's Avatar
Struckat Struckat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 218
Likes: 713
Liked 416 Times in 135 Posts
Default

My 686-1 had a price of $650 which is low for LGS price. No box or grips, but guns like this never show up locally so I traded for it.

Now I am left to wonder why I have ignored L frames all these years...
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-07-2020, 10:27 AM
jughed440's Avatar
jughed440 jughed440 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: yonder
Posts: 1,849
Likes: 3,000
Liked 2,668 Times in 699 Posts
Default

OP, you stole that 686 snub. Congrats!!!

Looking at all of those others makes me realize how foolish I was for selling mine
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #24  
Old 01-07-2020, 11:42 AM
nfa1eab nfa1eab is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 86
Likes: 21
Liked 138 Times in 30 Posts
Default

My 686-3. Had to put some Hogue grips on. The combats put my middle finger right behind the trigger guard. That knuckle is large and it is painful to shoot. Hogue's fill in that spot and are much more comfy for shooting. And I do love to shoot that snubby!

Sent from my SM-T813 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-07-2020, 12:23 PM
roo_ster roo_ster is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 162
Likes: 22
Liked 115 Times in 65 Posts
Default

What pretty snubbies. And the steals y'all got, well, I can only hope such a beast comes my way.

And I really ought to fill the void between my SW64 snubby and my SW696 4".
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #26  
Old 01-07-2020, 08:00 PM
rattlesnakedaddy's Avatar
rattlesnakedaddy rattlesnakedaddy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CA- Bay Area
Posts: 70
Likes: 66
Liked 75 Times in 28 Posts
Default

I love my 686-3 2.5", although at times I find myself wanting a 4" model. My next purchase will either be a 4" 686+ or a 66.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 01-07-2020, 08:32 PM
nfa1eab nfa1eab is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 86
Likes: 21
Liked 138 Times in 30 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rattlesnakedaddy View Post
I love my 686-3 2.5", although at times I find myself wanting a 4" model. My next purchase will either be a 4" 686+ or a 66.
I have a 686-3, 4", with targets that I really like. I bought it to not have to shoot my 27-2. But, for some reason, I can shoot the snubby well. It has become my favorite. To put that into context, I have a steel plate range set up on my property that we shoot often at 20 yds. or less. Defense style shooting.

Sent from my SM-T813 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 01-07-2020, 08:49 PM
Grayfox's Avatar
Grayfox Grayfox is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Bartlett, Tennessee
Posts: 5,032
Likes: 1,184
Liked 9,376 Times in 2,775 Posts
Default

tygsmith98: I see that badge by your name. Arrest yourself for theft!

I am sooooo jealous.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #29  
Old 01-07-2020, 09:15 PM
HamHands's Avatar
HamHands HamHands is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Highlands, North Carolina
Posts: 1,246
Likes: 1,690
Liked 1,762 Times in 712 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_the_welder View Post
Not a -4. But a -3 686.
Nice piece! Who made the grips???
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #30  
Old 01-07-2020, 10:36 PM
Lou_the_welder's Avatar
Lou_the_welder Lou_the_welder is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Los Angeles,California
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 2,190
Liked 1,881 Times in 699 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HamHands View Post
Nice piece! Who made the grips???
Unless I'm mistaken, they should be L frame factory combats.
They aren't Culina's or anything like that. If that's what you were thinking. They're RB.

I put a bunch of pictures in this thread:A tale of two snubs...
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 01-07-2020, 11:52 PM
BoCash's Avatar
BoCash BoCash is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: western NC
Posts: 244
Likes: 73
Liked 485 Times in 126 Posts
Default

Actually, I prefer the traditional 6-shots. But then, I am a dinosaur.

I was told that the 686-3 w/ 6 chambers is fairly hard to find........so I nailed
this one about 3 years ago. No way I got it for any $369 however...... so
the OP got a steal, no matter what dash number.

PHOTO below of the 686 Family........686-3 snub, 6-shot is at the Bottom.

Y'all take care, Bo
Attached Thumbnails
-smith-model-686s-2-2018-jpg  
__________________
I love the woods and streams.

Last edited by BoCash; 01-07-2020 at 11:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #32  
Old 01-10-2020, 05:10 AM
BLUEDOT37's Avatar
BLUEDOT37 BLUEDOT37 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: N.E. OKLA.
Posts: 4,817
Likes: 4,067
Liked 5,691 Times in 2,268 Posts
Default

Lew Horton got the 2-1/2" snubby 686's started back in 1983 by placing a special order with S&W to produce (6000).

It was such a good idea S&W started making them for themselves.

.
Lew Horton 686-0, Product code# 104212
.


.
.
.



.
__________________
‼Malfunction‽ -need more input
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #33  
Old 01-10-2020, 08:39 AM
Shark Bait's Avatar
Shark Bait Shark Bait is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 2,258
Likes: 5,296
Liked 5,701 Times in 1,322 Posts
Default

The 7 shot version of the -4 is less common than the 6 shot, but not what I would call rare. They were made for about 2 years before the -5 was released. Either way, you got it at a great price.

My -4+ 7 shooter:

Last edited by Shark Bait; 01-10-2020 at 08:44 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #34  
Old 01-10-2020, 09:22 AM
s&wchad's Avatar
s&wchad s&wchad is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Great Lakes State
Posts: 20,959
Likes: 4,761
Liked 10,810 Times in 2,558 Posts
Thumbs up

tygsmith98,
Excellent purchase and a great price! 2-1/2" 686-4's aren't rare, but many (including myself) consider them the finest variation produced.

Back in 2007, I paid $400 for a used 2-1/2" 686-4 Plus Lew Horton Special and I thought that a great deal at the time! I'm not a big fan of porting on a short barreled revolver, but there were only 50 of these produced according to the SCSW and I couldn't pass it up.

-000_1455-jpg

-000_2028-jpg

-000_2025-jpg
Attached Thumbnails
-000_1455-jpg   -000_2028-jpg   -000_2025-jpg  
__________________
"I also cook."
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 01-10-2020, 01:41 PM
Coastie762 Coastie762 is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: N.E. Wisconsin
Posts: 578
Likes: 808
Liked 983 Times in 303 Posts
Default

Lots of lovely guns in this thread. OP got an insanely good deal on his new snubbie. Congrats!

The weather here warmed up into the balmy mid thirties today. I took the opportunity to take a couple of photos of my 686-3. Grips are Ahrends cocobolo tacticals, refinished with pure tung oil.
Attached Thumbnails
-686-snub-1-jpg   -686-snub-2-jpg  
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #36  
Old 01-10-2020, 02:26 PM
ditrina's Avatar
ditrina ditrina is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunny Central Florida
Posts: 10,698
Likes: 19,440
Liked 15,339 Times in 3,280 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ditrina View Post
686-4

Now that Lew Horton is closed, is there a reference for the serial numbers for the 686 models??
__________________
SWCA #2306
DAV in honor of POP
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #37  
Old 01-10-2020, 03:18 PM
18robert 18robert is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: florida
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 5 Posts
Default

today i bought a 686-6 plus, 2 1/2 bbl, box and papers for $ 500. did i pay to much. everybody seems to want only the pre lock guns ??
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #38  
Old 01-10-2020, 05:15 PM
Dirtman Dirtman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 221
Likes: 287
Liked 119 Times in 49 Posts
Default 686 357 Mag 6" PP

I have a pre-lock 6" 686. PP, S & W 357 mag. I bought in 2001 new for $599.00 + tax at a local gun store here in Frisco, Tx.
Love the way it shoots! I left the original Hogue rubber grips on it just because I like the way they fit in my hand.
I have seen many shorter barrel 686's on this site but few of the longer barrel ones.
Of all the guns I own this is the one that will be in my drawer when I die!
__________________
NRA & TSRA
Texas CHL Holder
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #39  
Old 01-10-2020, 06:08 PM
ISCS Yoda's Avatar
ISCS Yoda ISCS Yoda is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 5,544
Likes: 1,325
Liked 6,801 Times in 2,645 Posts
Default

I paid $350 for mine but that was a really long time ago!!!!

__________________
Come and take it!!
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #40  
Old 01-10-2020, 07:14 PM
EricR's Avatar
EricR EricR is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 535
Likes: 2,286
Liked 1,360 Times in 291 Posts
Default

To the OP, outstanding purchase price. This one cost me $335, new, in late '91 from a SoCal gun store. A dash 3.



Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #41  
Old 01-10-2020, 09:02 PM
NavySCPO's Avatar
NavySCPO NavySCPO is offline
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Carrollton GA
Posts: 226
Likes: 471
Liked 780 Times in 135 Posts
Default

Love the 686 OP, thatís a Beauty! My -1 is a Snub, and with the Combats I love the way it looks, like so many posted here. Then last year I got a chance to pick up a -5 Mountain Gun 7-Shot, with the 4Ē, itís one of the best shooting revolvers Iíve ever owned. Iím not a great pistol shot, but this one even makes me look like I know what Iím doing. Iíve since changed it to a set of Goodyearís for better control, been on my hip every day of deer season. With a couple of speed loaders Iím all set.
Attached Thumbnails
-5d4cfe43-7602-4d23-a04d-9ced35c9a8c0-jpg   -25208478-1fbf-44cd-a0ef-2278f834c751-jpg   -94787c1f-a427-400f-816f-86177ce511a2-jpg  
__________________
Danny
S&WCA #3370
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #42  
Old 01-12-2020, 11:49 AM
s&wchad's Avatar
s&wchad s&wchad is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Great Lakes State
Posts: 20,959
Likes: 4,761
Liked 10,810 Times in 2,558 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EricR View Post
This one cost me $335, new, in late '91 from a SoCal gun store.
Nice gun and a wise purchase, but I'll bet you get some strange looks when you tell people where you got it! Could they have picked a worse name?
__________________
"I also cook."
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nickel Model 49 Rarity and Value? 326MOD10 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 4 12-14-2015 09:37 AM
Model 66 Value and Rarity shootn99 S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 26 11-14-2015 11:37 AM
6" Model 15 Rarity & Value? okie john S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 7 10-10-2014 10:35 AM
Model 17 Question of rarity Aussie Bruce S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 1 08-23-2012 04:59 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:55 AM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
© S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2020
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)