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Old 01-17-2020, 09:32 AM
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I just acquired my 686 Plus last month as a Christmas present. It's my first revolver. I haven't really had much time to play with the gun but yesterday I thought I would clean it, mainly to get familiar with it. That's when the problem that's in the pic hit me in the face. Don't know how I hadn't seen it earlier. I felt sure that S&W would take care of the problem but before contacting them I sent an email to the dealer describing the problem and attaching the pic. He immediately called me and is going to refund the full purchasing price including transfer fees and pay shipping costs to get it back. I have no problem with S&W. I've been around long enough to know that this kind of stuff happens. I'm going to get another S&W but will probably get a 586. I was kind of wishing that that's what I had gotten anyway.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:41 AM
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Sorry about this obvious flaw in your new revolver. Hard to believe that something like this could happen, but your experience vividly underscores the sad fact that many of the brand new revolvers, and other handguns are simply not being thoroughly inspected prior to shipment.

Be sure to give any new product the "once over". Sadly, many of the present day manufacturers are placing the burden of a final inspection and evaluation on the end user.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:24 AM
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It's certainly weird looking, but won't affect the performance in any way. Since your dealer is going to take it back, perhaps he can just replace it with a different one with the proper rollmarks.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:32 AM
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As a coin guy too, I'm thinking, WOW a double die S&W, or an OMM if you would.... if all else is OK, I like it...If its a shooter, it may be a blessing or a curse! to each his own....
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:35 AM
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It's astonishing to me that gun could even make it out of the factory.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:39 AM
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FYI, returns to S&W are easy. Call them and they email you a prepaid shipping label that you print and tape to the box. Then call the shipper and they come to your door to retrieve the box.

The 4" 686 Plus was my first handgun and a great choice for a first revolver. Good luck.
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Old 01-17-2020, 10:57 AM
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It's certainly weird looking, but won't affect the performance in any way. Since your dealer is going to take it back, perhaps he can just replace it with a different one with the proper rollmarks.
Initially, the dealer didn't think he had a replacement but it turns out does. He's shipping it to my FFL guy and sending me a box of ammo for my trouble. He said he has the bad gun sold. Has a customer who likes to buy oddball stuff like this.
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Old 01-17-2020, 01:34 PM
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I think it looks sorta neat...being odd myself I would have kept it...one of a kind is cool !
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:28 PM
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This discussion looks like warm bait for me to get forum dinged with demerits.

I’ll just say that I love that you have a great dealer that was quick to do the right thing. Before I go let me also try to express how much I love (not currently made) S&W handguns!
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:23 AM
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When they double stamp coins the price goes up. If it was me I wouldn't send the gun back. I would keep it just because of the double stamp. It's something different.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:42 AM
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If it was me, I would keep it. Seems to me the dealer is anxious to get it back.

If you put that up for auction you'll have enough to buy five 586s
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:49 AM
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The S&W quality control department must have been laid off. Their QA has bess horrible for the last few years. Repair has been bad as well....
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All of mine look like that if I don't have my readers on.

I agree with those who say keep it. Collectors would be very interested in having that. I would bet that the dealer is eager to get it back for that reason.
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Old 01-18-2020, 07:06 AM
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Three shots of Bourbon or a
double gin martini will put
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Before I ever noticed the double stamped logo, I had noticed that the stainless finish of the barrel looked different from the frame and cylinder. The barrel looked lighter or faded without the depth of the rest of the gun. Being a newbie, I didn't know if this was really significant for a S&W revolver and had kind of gotten past it. The new gun arrives Tuesday and I'm interested in seeing the overall finish.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:11 PM
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Unbelievable it got out of the factory but agree keep it or put it up for auction
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I think that I'd see how it shoots before sending it back. Double struck coins can be worth more money than regular stock. In any event, it is unusual.
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Looks like your gun developed a stutter at the factory
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I have to disagree with some here. Since he has already contacted the dealer and the dealer has agreed to take it back and send a replacement, I think the OP has created an obligation to return the revolver to the seller and accept the replacement.
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For me, as a shooter, I would have it replaced. But for a serious collector you may have a valuable gun there; as previously posted, like a "double-struck" coin. Obviously your call.
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:33 AM
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If S&W collecting is anything like Colt 1911 collecting, then mis marks and things like this don't add value. Colt is notorious for marking Government slides as Commander and vice versa, doesn't add any value.
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I would probably be happy with that if the barrel was not canted and it shot tight groups.
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How does it shoot? How is the action? If the sights are dead on, and the action is fine, I would not send it back.
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Assuming no other issues with it, I would likely keep it as a stand-out oddity...
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... He said he has the bad gun sold. Has a customer who likes to buy oddball stuff like this.
I'll bet he does. That's the sort of odd production mistake which makes it out the door that can make a gun valuable to some collectors.
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I had a double stamped Springfield M1 Garand from 1944. Some said it added value and others said it was a flaw and collectors wouldn’t pay extra for it. I ended up selling it to buy an M1 Carbine and those that said it wouldn’t add value turned out to be correct. This might be different but I wouldn’t count on it. Good luck.
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At S&W mismarked revolvers are not rare. I have a 25-5 where the -5 is overstruck on a -2. They were making an N frame and grabbed the wrong one. At least 200, Model 1955s made it to dealers but they were marked 1950. No premium for that mistake either.

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That there would be a collector's piece (although I'd have to have another one that was all good).
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