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Old 05-20-2020, 08:05 AM
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Not disagreeing with the 629, but...the 610 can also shoot 2 cartridges, and the .40 S&W is the most affordable of them all, and the .44 Special is likely the least affordable. For anyone who isn't reloading...I don't even mention .44 Special as an advantage. Too expensive, not particularly abundant.
The last time I reloaded was about 10 years ago and a couple of years ago I decided to make it official and start selling all my reloading gear. I mostly own and shoot semiautos but like having a revolver or two. Not sure if the OP reloads or not but otherwise we sound fairly similar.

I bought a S&W 69 in 44 magnum right after they came out and shotrly after that decided to sell my the prelock 610 with 5 inch barrel and combat grips I bought new in the early 90s. A 44 just makes a better revolver. Its almost like the cartridge was designed for revolvers

A revolver needs to offer something I cannot get in semiauto. Its personal preference but for both carry and home defense I would rather have a 9mm semiauto. So to be useful a revolver has to offer some combination of better accuracy, more power, versatility and fun at the range that I cannot get in a autoloader.

The 610 was very accurate but dealing with moon clips got in the way of fun at the range. But my 69 is also very accurate.

When it comes to power the 44 is the clear winner. Even though I don't shoot much full power 44 magnum ammo through it I like having the option.

Unless you live in California or some other state that doesn't allow mail order ammo the 44 is also more versatile. For about $0.50 to $0.60 I can find ammo ranging from weak cowboy loads and 44 special up to somewhat weak 44 magnums. The full power 44 magnums cost a bit more but I do not shoot many of those. Ammo for the 610 is less expensive if you shoot 40 but you basically get 2 power levels, 40 and 10mm. If you want very mild ammo like cowboy loads you have to load them yourself with 10mm.

The 610 and 629 are both fine guns. But now that I own a 44 revolver I don't have much use for one chambered in 10mm.

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Old 05-20-2020, 12:57 PM
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Just get the one that falls in your lap first!! Be an opportunist, like I have been for quite a few years. I have stumbled into a lot of my Smiths. Plus, you know you are going to want the other one anyway, at some point!!:-)

You are correct Nightowl - I don't even have the S&W yet and I'm already thinking about getting my hands on both.

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Old 05-20-2020, 02:09 PM
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Something to consider is that the 629's are in constant production, but the 610's are available sporadically. If you opt for a 629 now and want a 610 in a few years, you may have to pay a premium.

Do you reload?

I am in the process of putting together a reloading bench and have found a friend willing to teach me. But to answer your question directly - no, I do not reload at the moment.

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Old 05-20-2020, 03:08 PM
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I am in the process of putting together a reloading bench and have found a friend willing to teach me. But to answer your question directly - no, I do not reload at the moment.
That's great! Especially the part about having a friend teach you. When you reload you can dial the 44Mag down to 10 or even 40 power levels, or you can crank it up to levels the 10 can't touch.

Right now is kind of a tough time to get into reloading because components are scarce, but that will change.
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Old 05-22-2020, 06:20 PM
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I have a Forster press, a RCBS Chargemaster and a few other odds and ends. I'm getting close .. but, for some reason I keep finding other things to spend money on??

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I'd be hard-pressed to make this choice!

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Old 07-29-2020, 07:57 PM
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Iím a little late to the discussion, but I have some strong feelings about these two. The 629 with magnums is more gun than 95% of us need. I have never had the pleasure of shooting a 610, but it is a gun I want to own. I have owned 10mm semi autos though and love the caliber. I have also owned 44spl and 44mag revolvers. If you want to shoot your revolver and enjoy it, the 610 is a better shooter that takes two calibers that are cheaper and more readily available than the 629ís two calibers. In fact 40s&w is the only handgun caliber in stock at most of our local gun shops and is the equivalent of 357 mag with a 180gr bullet at 1000fps. If you reload, you can sab make the same argument for the 610.

You will be well served with either, but if you are scared of the 610 for any reason donít be. I donít own either because I have a 625 that fills the need very well. The 625 in 45 acp gives you the option of a rimmed case with 45auto rim that is also very well supported for hot loads.
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For me itís as simple as ďdo I like dealing with moon clips, or not?Ē No. I own many 44ís and no rimless cartridge revolvers except a 22-4. Thats just me disliking moon clips.
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I can appreciate the OP's dilemma. I went through the same debate, but mine was compounded because I also own and shoot a Model 57 (41 Magnum). Over the years, I developed a soft 41 load, so it can match the 610, and leave it in the dust! I chose a 3" Model 629 with the intention of feeding it a steady diet of Skeeter's 44 Specials.

Perhaps (down the road) I'll buy a 610, but while I like the 6.5" barrel , it's weight puts it on the potential ban list, so a 4" may be in line. When I have seen moon clips and a moon clip tool at a reasonable price, I jumped on it. I already have the dies and mold for 40/10mm since a Sig P229R is on the way.

Honestly, I don't envy the OP with the decision he must make!
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No reason not to go with a .44 on the N frame, unless youíre already heavily invested in the 10mm round.

Moon clips are great for speed-reloads in action pistol competition and a PITA the rest of the time.
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Here in Californiastan 10mm is still on the shelf. I just got a 610 and I want to cook up some self defense loads because I can only find fmj in the stores.
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To be clear, shooting 10mm in the M610 does not absolutely REQUIRE the use of moonclips, but the empty cases will not extract using the extractor. They have to be plucked out. Shooting 40S&W does require moonclips.
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Perhaps (down the road) I'll buy a 610, but while I like the 6.5" barrel , it's weight puts it on the potential ban list, so a 4" may be in line.
Interesting statement. You made me look up NJ gun laws. Weight is a feature applying to semi auto handguns and is meant to help cull out pistols like the AK or AR. A 50+ oz revolver should be good to go.
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Something to consider is that the 629's are in constant production, but the 610's are available sporadically. If you opt for a 629 now and want a 610 in a few years, you may have to pay a premium.

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Shooting and reloading a DA revolver is much simpler if the case has a rim.
Reloading as in putting ammo into the cylinder .

Screwing around with , keeping track of , loading and unloading and not damaging moon clips sounds great on paper ...in real life ... it's a pain .

My revolvers: 38 S&W , 38 Special , 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum , 45 Colt.
Notice they all have rims ... My one 45 acp revolver gets shot very little and it's the pesky full moon clips fault.
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Shooting and reloading a DA revolver is much simpler if the case has a rim.
Reloading as in putting ammo into the cylinder .

Screwing around with , keeping track of , loading and unloading and not damaging moon clips sounds great on paper ...in real life ... it's a pain .

My revolvers: 38 S&W , 38 Special , 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum , 45 Colt.
Notice they all have rims ... My one 45 acp revolver gets shot very little and it's the pesky full moon clips fault.
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RIMZ polymer moon clips.

No loading tool, no unloading tool, the cartridges pop right in, the empties pop right out. They donít bend.

I highly recommend them.
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Iíve had a few 629ís over the years and one 610. Iíve sold the 629ís, but kept the 610. The .44 Mag is just too punishing for me with factory level loads. Iíve downloaded .44 Mag and used .44 Spec, but it just doesnít do it for me like the 610 does. Itís hard to give an objective answer, because it really does come down to personal preference. I just really love the 610 and plinking with .40 in it is like shooting .38 out of a K-frame...hardly any kick at all. Realistically, the 629 probably is a more versatile choice, but not due to ammo cost or availability. .44 Mag is usually more expensive than 10mm and .44 Spec is way more expensive than either-when you can find it. I havenít bought any factory ammo in years, but reloading 10 and .40 is cheaper in powder and projectiles. Moon clips arenít that big of a deal, but people tend to either love them or hate them. Iíve recently acquired two .45 ACP revolvers and itís kind of neat to preload a bunch of moons and shoot them as fast as one would shoot a semi with magazines. Iím way more accurate with the 610 also, probably because itís just so hard not to flinch with the big magnum. I did ok with the .44Spec, but still not as good as with the 10. In my opinion, if youíre going to get either a 10mm or .44 revolver, getting into reloading is a huge plus. I just like not being reliant on ammo stock in stores. Iím sure Iíll own more .44ís in the future...hanging on to my .44 Mag and Spec brass and dies for sure.
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I'm new to S&W (always been a Glock and Ruger man). I shot a friends 610 and his 629 and decided to pick one up myself. But, which one .. I guess I always thought I'd purchase a S&W one day but never went much down that trail until now. Both are great guns - but this purchase is not for need as much as it is for a little fun... and to add a S&W to my collection?

All advice is welcome!
So what did you end up with?
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