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Old 05-20-2020, 11:49 PM
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I ran across this 48-4 with 8 3/8" barrel today. I only took one quick pic and didn't inspect like I was going to purchase. I checked the "Big Book" serial # looks to be 1982 vintage. As you can see from the tag it says .22lr? Is that correct? Are there .22mag dash 4's? Any 48-4 with both cylinders?I guess what I'm wondering is did it begin life as a .22lr? The .22lr is more desirable to me shooting wise. I was a little confused from the catalog. Other than stocks being dirty, they appeared original. A little wear at the muzzle but not bad.
It does come with the ProPoint and gaudy mounting rail. After trying it out as is, I would more than likely remove the rail and ProPoint. Take a old toothbrush and get the dirt out of the grips. Priced seemed ok (maybe a little high) I wasn't sure about price.
Interested in anything you can tell me from this poor pic. Thanks
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Old 05-21-2020, 12:20 AM
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That is indeed a conundrum. The M48 should be 22WMR, but there do exist 22LR cylinders that could have been fitted to it. If the shop has both cylinders then the asking price would be a steal in my opinion. If not, and it has only a fitted 22LR, then not so much. The price isn't bad for a M48, but if you're wanting to revert it back to a magnum, then you're looking at probably around $150 for the correct cylinder and someone to fit it. Add another half franklin for the rear sight. You are now approaching an "OK" price for an unaltered M48.

I'd ask the shop to remove its cylinder and stick a 22LR cartridge (or 6) in it to see if they rattle around. If so, them have them try some 22-mags to see if they chamber. If they've mislabeled it, then hold them to their asking price and if you indeed want a 22 magnum revolver, then take it and walk away knowing that you got a good deal. My opinion only. -S2
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Assume the rear sight is missing? The ProPoint isn't worth much; a correct rear sight may be $75-$100. Whether the cylinder is 22LR or 22WRM wouldn't make much difference to me but, either way, I'd be trying to buy it for $600 (or less) OTD arguing that I have to find and replace the rear sight. They are nice guns, I paid $730 for the last 8 3/8 48-4 I bought. Good luck.

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A model 48 should be a 22 mag. Never had one,but I would think the barrel would be labeled. From using them for conversions, 327 mag, 22TCM, 22 Harvey etc, I do know that 22 cylinders are a bit hard to find and usually around $150 up. You can get lucky is you wait. Fitting them really isn't that hard USUALLY. Correct rear sight will cost you another $100 unless you get lucky also.

The price is good for any decent K frame 22 lr or magnum. But, like stated once you start adding on the $100 bills the original price fades fast. But, this seems to be the rare model where the 8 3/8" holds a higher value. See what caliber it actually is. Find a sight, find a spare cylinder to fit and you could have a long tube dual 22 for under a grand.

I always try to chisel the price a bit. In most Gun Shops and Pawn shops its works to some degree. Sometimes if it has just hit the shelf they be might not be as willing to deal as when it has sat for a few weeks or more. I saved $250 off my Model 53 22 Jet at a Scheels by simply waiting and checking back few weeks, It kept slowly dropping, finally after over 2 months I made my offer, they counter offered and I took it.
I seldom buy guns at Scheels because usually they are high. But, partt of getting a good price is patience
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Well you guys posed some of the questions I would have asked the salesman however he was to busy answering his cell phone, one from his daughter then another in about 8 min. while I was looking at it.
I had wondered about the rear sight, if there is one? Don't know if there is a box, other cylinder, didn't get to ask. I think sales guy assumed I was just another "tire kicker" but I had 1k gun money in my pocket. He was NOT trying to sell me anything.
I'll check the barrel for caliber, I didn't think of that the other day. To be honest I couldn't remember what caliber a 48-4 was, that's why I didn't engage him much, I knew I wanted to come home and check the catalog. It wouldn't be the first time I.ve found a "mislabeled" gun.
Thanks for the posts. I'll let you know.
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Well you guys posed some of the questions I would have asked the salesman however he was to busy answering his cell phone, one from his daughter then another in about 8 min. while I was looking at it.

He was NOT trying to sell me anything.
I'm amazed at some of the places I visit where the "salespeople" are too busy to talk to you and seem to resent showing you their wares. Less so in LGS's versus pawn shops but it happens there too. A few years ago I was in shop looking to add to my Colt Woodsman collection, asked the only person there if they had any (I was the only customer) and he said "nope." I looked through their cases and low and behold found a nice second model target which I asked to handle and then asked "why didn't you mention this one?" Replied that he didn't think I was a serious buyer. Bought it anyway, but decided if I ever owned a shop I'd put in cameras; not to watch the customers but to watch the hired help. Good luck.

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This morning I called the shop asked about the 48-4, I told him the tag says it is .22lr and I asked him what is stamped on the barrel? He said it is labeled wrong barrel is stamped .22magnum. After lunch today I went back to the gun shop and checked out the 48-4 again, this time more carefully. Removed bore light from pocket, looked clean and still had grooves, one side on front edge of muzzle showed a tiny bit of wear. So I asked my questions: Box?, rear sight, extra cylinder? Then I found out something I didn't know, he said let me check the consignment papers. Nope, no box, papers, rear sight, cylinder nothing. Yep, barrel stamped .22magnum. I made my offer: 6 Bills, he called owner left him a message. I told sales guy I would hang out for about 30 min. or so, see if he calls back. Then sales guy says: "lets check something" and grabs a box of .22mag off the shelf, tries it in the cylinder, no go, no way, then .22lr yep the .22lr dropped right in. We don't know what happened to the .22mag cylinder. I waited 45min then came back home told him to call me if he accepts. No calls and they closed at 5pm.
Oh well, win some, lose some.
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So around 2pm on Saturday my cell rings, Bob from the gun shop owner of the 48-4 came to the range to shoot, didn't bother to return Friday's message or when shop opened at 9am. Bob said: owner will accept my 6bill offer. I told him I was sorry but in light of learning that it is a 48-4 with a stamped .22mag barrel but has a less desirable .22lr cylinder (unless it has both) my offer is no longer on the table. I will pass.
Bob said he understood, thanked me and hung up.
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