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New 500 S&W, is this normal?
I just picked this up and didn't notice it until I got it home. I have other revolvers that have it, but I have extensively shot them so the mark makes sense.
Being a new revolver, do they work the cylinder that much in the factory for the ejector rod to mark like this? I understand why it does it, but a brand new revolver?
I also wish the release button wasn't so cheap feeling but overall the gun works and feels great.
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Pretty normal. It doesn't take much forr the hard tip of the center pin to rub a line. Also at the factory they need to open and close it while fitting it and make sure it operates correctly.
Don't understand the cheap feel comment on the thumb release. The movement or how it feels to the touch? Is it rough while pushing it forward? Please explain.
If your talking the new style slanted thumb piece, I have several, but do prefer the old style myself.
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Pretty normal. It doesn't take much forr the hard tip of the center pin to rub a line. Also at the factory they need to open and close it while fitting it and make sure it operates correctly.
Don't understand the cheap feel comment on the thumb release. The movement or how it feels to the touch? Is it rough while pushing it forward? Please explain.
If your talking the new style slanted thumb piece, I have several, but do prefer the old style myself.
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Thank you
Here's the thumb release on mine. The gun feels solid, the release feels sorta cheap when compared to the rest of the revolver. It has some minor play etc. I get that they don't really need to make a thumb release super hefty as it isn't taking any massive load, I just wish it was a little stronger but I still love the gun though.
It does feel like when the button is fully pushed in, the cylinder needs a -tad- bit of help to roll it out from the frame, but again I think this is more of the sturdy x frame design.
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I'd call that a Texas snubnose.
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Thank you
It does feel like when the button is fully pushed in, the cylinder needs a -tad- bit of help to roll it out from the frame, but again I think this is more of the sturdy x frame design.
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That tad of extra help, is the ball detent lock up that you have to push past
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I'd call that a Texas snubnose.
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That is not a snub nose, Texas or otherwise.
This is the Factory produced snub nose . . . . . 2 3/4" Model 500
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That tad of extra help, is the ball detent lock up that you have to push past
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Which is what I figured and it was normal revolver behavior. I am super ocd about my new guns being in excellent condition after my one and only(sold immediately) taurus revolver in 44 magnum had to be sent back before ever firing a round. Thanks for the reply
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not to sideline here but how this recoils?
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not to sideline here but how this recoils?
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I plan on taking it out soon, ironically my local indoor won't let me shoot it, otherwise I would have done it already. And it's been raining like crazy in Florida, so outdoors are a no go. Shoot straight said it would be fine, so that's the plan here this weekend I think.
I picked up some underwood 440 grain flat nose. I felt like that was a good mid range starting point . I have shot hot 44 magnum plenty, so I am cautiously looking forward to it lol. Though I am not sure what to expect, some places you read it's not that bad, others claim they almost double tapped themselves.
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I remember being at my local range and not knowing that the shooter next to me had a S&W 500. That all changes when he fired the first round. Besides me jumping two feet off the ground, the percussion was unreal. Fortunately for me there was a range officer on duty and he immediately asked the gentleman with the S&W 500 to move to the rifle range. I didn't see the recoil but I would imagine he felt it. Good luck with shooting yours.
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I remember being at my local range and not knowing that the shooter next to me had a S&W 500. That all changes when he fired the first round. Besides me jumping two feet off the ground, the percussion was unreal. Fortunately for me there was a range officer on duty and he immediately asked the gentleman with the S&W 500 to move to the rifle range. I didn't see the recoil but I would imagine he felt it. Good luck with shooting yours.
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I went shooting at our outdoor range just prior to having surgery that would sideline me for three months. There was a couple at one end shooting .22 revolvers. I set up 29 shooting stations away on the other end. I broke out two model 629's and one model 29 and started sending rounds down range. The guy strolled down to jokingly ask if I was shooting a howitzer, he and his wife were feeling the concussion of my rounds. Each station is 48" wide and there is a 48" sidewalk in the middle used for setting up and then removing target stands. They were at least 120' away and feeling the concussion of .44 magnum Underwood rounds. I am amazed the concussion would travel that far.
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Shoot straight said it would be fine, so that's the plan here this weekend I think.
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You mean Ft Myers...I stop in there every time I am down there. Great place with great sales. I like it.
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QUOTE: That is not a snub nose, Texas or otherwise.
This is the Factory produced snub nose . . . . . 2 3/4" Model 500 unquote.
That got a chuckle here...above may be fact, but legend holds that everything in Texas is Bigger......Just sayin.. Y'all...
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You mean Ft Myers...I stop in there every time I am down there. Great place with great sales. I like it.
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closest one to me is apopka, they said their only concern is noise and they "can't conduct business if you shoot a 500 too close to the showroom". So its rifle range or the pistol stall near the rifle range entrance
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When you say you bought it new - was it in stock at a LGS? If so, how long had it been there? Lots of "customers" like to look at/handle the X-frames. This would add to the open and closing count.
I prefer to order firearms from my LGS to increase my chance of getting a non-handled new firearm.
15 years ago purchased a Beretta 92 FS Inox, new, from a gun show. I shoulda taken more time to inspect it. There was a discoloration on the slide. Not sure if it was from handling or not. I suspect it was.
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When you say you bought it new - was it in stock at a LGS? If so, how long had it been there? Lots of "customers" like to look at/handle the X-frames. This would add to the open and closing count.
I prefer to order firearms from my LGS to increase my chance of getting a non-handled new firearm.
15 years ago purchased a Beretta 92 FS Inox, new, from a gun show. I shoulda taken more time to inspect it. There was a discoloration on the slide. Not sure if it was from handling or not. I suspect it was.
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This firearm was from buds. I purchased a police trade in Beretta from aim surplus once, nice gun but man it was beat to hell and clearly not the indicated condition. So now it's strictly new, mainly online sales. I will buy from lgs that I transfer to help out small business.
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Sorta like a Texas Snub?
Wish they had the real snub available but the Carry model will have to do.
Enjoy that 500 OP.
If ya ain't a handloader you might give it a try.
The Lee Handpress works but get quality dies.
You don't have to spend Texas pocket change to get started.
Just load one or two with some separation first.
I always load one when starting someone on an M59 or similar gun.... then just two.
You can be a bumpstock!
Hope to get out to an outdoor range if Markham & GunWorld open next week, get some serious time in with the 460s.
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yeah a press was next on my list once I saw the price for 20 rounds of the good stuff
I have no qualms in admitting I was going to only load 1 round for my first shot lol. I am a big guy, I don't doubt that I can handle it but I always err on the side of caution, especially when it comes to safety of myself or others.
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That is not a snub nose, Texas or otherwise.
This is the Factory produced snub nose . . . . . 2 3/4" Model 500
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Yeah, but here in TEXAS, we'd consider OP's revolver a snubbie. Everything's bigger here in TEXAS!
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I remember being at my local range and not knowing that the shooter next to me had a S&W 500. That all changes when he fired the first round. Besides me jumping two feet off the ground, the percussion was unreal. Fortunately for me there was a range officer on duty and he immediately asked the gentleman with the S&W 500 to move to the rifle range. I didn't see the recoil but I would imagine he felt it. Good luck with shooting yours.
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It's not a rifle. Why would the guy send him to the rifle range?
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It's not a rifle. Why would the guy send him to the rifle range?
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I called two indoor ranges about shooting the 500. The first said their pistol range wasn't up to the task, and it would have to be rifle range. Then they told me they would "take me down range" to shoot it because they don't need me "sending 50 cal rounds through the roof.
*click*
The next one I called, sound was their only issue. Their rifle ranges are further from the shop where all the shopping is taking place, but they would allow the 500 on the pistol range, it has to be in a stall as far from the showroom as possible.
So I know it's not a huge pool for examples but it sounds like for those nearby it isn't pleasant to be near
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I've owned a S&W Performance Center 500 with a 10.5 inch barrel. It has been to South Africa and Zimbabwe. I shoot mostly 440-gr hardhats. In the past five years I have taken an old stink bull giraffe and a lion. I'm 75, and found that lots of rounds through the gun helped me overcome recoil..
If you are going to own one, shoot it.
My maximum load is a 700-gr hardcast at 1300fps. You DO know when the gun goes off.
Next year I'm going after a Cape buffalo with the same gun.
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That is not a snub nose, Texas or otherwise.
This is the Factory produced snub nose . . . . . 2 3/4" Model 500
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...If THIS spoiled your day, you don't get out much.
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I've owned a S&W Performance Center 500 with a 10.5 inch barrel. It has been to South Africa and Zimbabwe. I shoot mostly 440-gr hardhats. In the past five years I have taken an old stink bull giraffe and a lion. I'm 75, and found that lots of rounds through the gun helped me overcome recoil..
If you are going to own one, shoot it.
My maximum load is a 700-gr hardcast at 1300fps. You DO know when the gun goes off.
Next year I'm going after a Cape buffalo with the same gun.
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Those are some excellent photos, thank you for sharing. 440 grain is what I got currently, I am going to eventually order some 700 grain but my next goal is to figure out reloading, doing it safely etc. Because while I can afford it, it's silly to pay $50-70 for 20 rounds when you can get the cost down doing it yourself.
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Here's the thumb release on mine. The gun feels solid, the release feels sorta cheap when compared to the rest of the revolver. It has some minor play etc.
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Is the screw tight? If the srcew is loose, the release has lot more play in it. I have loc-tited all my releases as like the ejector rod, they tend to loosen up with shooting.
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I just picked this up and didn't notice it until I got it home. I have other revolvers that have it, but I have extensively shot them so the mark makes sense.
Being a new revolver, do they work the cylinder that much in the factory for the ejector rod to mark like this? I understand why it does it, but a brand new revolver?
I also wish the release button wasn't so cheap feeling but overall the gun works and feels great.
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a little clean up of the edges of the ejector rod will make that much better. there is a little burr on the edge once its gone it will be way smoother. i do that to every smith i buy. drag your thumb nail across the edge youll feel it. dont do much with a stone or wet dry paper just enough to smooth the burr from machining.
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500 Mag
If any of you 500 owners desire to relinquish ownership and step down one level, I have an unfired M69 Combat Magnum in .44 Mag that I would trade - of course with a significant infusion of cash from my side.
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