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Model 19-7 "K Comp" Performance Center ETA: I GOT IT
I saw a Model 19-7 Performance Center K Comp and it piqued my interest.
I have a few questions to help me make up my mind about pursuing the gun.
First, the Standard Catalogue says "limited production." Anybody have and idea about numbers produced?
Current value?
Are these considered collectible.
I have several guns that I've never bonded with and I'm considering working a trade and I want to judge if the 19-7 is worth the trade.
Thanks,
Bill
I got the gun today. It was a trade deal of several guns, so I figure I have about $950 OTD for it.
According to the posts below it is one of the 1997 Lew Horton guns and is number 53. It has badger finger groove grips (not original) and no box. Probably been fired, but not much. It is in very good condition.
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If the SCS&W didn't mention numbers then only a factory letter would do it - IMO.
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What’s the asking price?
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It is not limited production.
The K-Comp began shipping in the mid 1990s and was available at least into the early 2000s. It was built across several engineering revisions
The same gun is currently in the Factory's lineup as the Model 19 Carry Comp.
So they just changed the name and it can still be bought today brand new
If the gun is in unfired since leaving the factory condition and it is from the first run, it will have some collectible value.
If it is a shooter of any vintage, then it is way too young to be much of a collector's item
I never look at a gun as an investment, or to flip. If I like it and the price is right then I buy it. Since I keep things for 20-30-or more years. So it is always worth more when I go to sell it than when I bought it
These are great guns. So if the price is right just buy it and enjoy it
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Originally Posted by colt_saa
It is not limited production.
The K-Comp began shipping in the mid 1990s and was available at least into the early 2000s. It was built across several engineering revisions
The same gun is currently in the Factory's lineup as the Model 19 Carry Comp.
So they just changed the name and it can still be bought today brand new
If the gun is in unfired since leaving the factory condition and it is from the first run, it will have some collectible value.
If it is a shooter of any vintage, then it is way too young to be much of a collector's item
I never look at a gun as an investment, or to flip. If I like it and the price is right then I buy it. Since I keep things for 20-30-or more years. So it is always worth more when I go to sell it than when I bought it
These are great guns. So if the price is right just buy it and enjoy it
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I think its one of the earlier guns. It has the "old" cylinder stop. The price is $1000.
I don't "need" it, but I may pursue it.
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Before the reintroduction of the 19-9 Carry Comp, there were two other versions, both 19-7's.
The K-comps with the SDA prefix shipped in '94 & '95, had laser etched markings and there were around 1500 of these made.
The other version was the 90 made for Lew Horton. These were rollstamped (except for the PC trademark) and had the KCP prefix.
These were from early 1997.
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[QUOTE=colt_saa;140795996]It is not limited production.
The K-Comp began shipping in the mid 1990s and was available at least into the early 2000s.
Not sure about shipping, but I don't think it was in continuous production throughout that time period. As I understand it, the first run was in 1994 and was for a very limited number, I think 200 or so. Anther small batch was made in 2000. The revolver was reintroduced a few years ago and I'm sure many more of those have been produced. The current model has the internal lock.
I think the examples from the early batches should be viewed as something special due to their relative scarcity.
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Originally Posted by snw19_357
Before the reintroduction of the 19-9 Carry Comp, there were two other versions, both 19-7's.
The K-comps with the SDA prefix shipped in '94 & '95, had laser etched markings and there were around 1500 of these made.
The other version was the 90 made for Lew Horton. These were rollsmped (except for the PC trademark) and had the KCP prefix.
These were from early 1997.
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Unfortunately I posted my reply before seeing this. I thinkthis information is probably closer to the real story than what I posted.
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I think its one of the earlier guns. It has the "old" cylinder stop. The price is $1000.
I don't "need" it, but I may pursue it.
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Bill,
It is a 3" model 19, pre-lock. If it checks out mechanically, and comsmetically, then I would buy it
.....but then again, I am an enabler.....
I used to own one, but traded for something I wanted more
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I'd buy a K-comp for $1000!
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This is a 586 L-Comp and the one below it a M66 F-comp.
The F-Comps were made for many years and in many engineering changes; 66-3 (PCP), 66-4 (CPC, LHF, LHJ) and the FCP prefix 66-6's.
Forgot about the 55 Lew Horton 19-7's in the LHA's but those had Mag-Na-Ports (and bobbed hammers) instead of the power port.
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Too late, I got it!
JUST KIDDING BILL
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Too late, I got it!
JUST KIDDING BILL
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Good,
Saved me $1000.
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Good,
Saved me $1000.
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Plus tax
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I bought it today. Photos in opening post.
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Nice score Bill.
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What make and wood are the grips on the stainless one? They look awesome.
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Originally Posted by colt_saa
It is not limited production.
The K-Comp began shipping in the mid 1990s and was available at least into the early 2000s. It was built across several engineering revisions
The same gun is currently in the Factory's lineup as the Model 19 Carry Comp.
So they just changed the name and it can still be bought today brand new
If the gun is in unfired since leaving the factory condition and it is from the first run, it will have some collectible value.
If it is a shooter of any vintage, then it is way too young to be much of a collector's item
I never look at a gun as an investment, or to flip. If I like it and the price is right then I buy it. Since I keep things for 20-30-or more years. So it is always worth more when I go to sell it than when I bought it
These are great guns. So if the price is right just buy it and enjoy it
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Very nice Bill. I had one each 66 & 19 and traded them away. Don't be like me
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Very nice Bill. I had one each 66 & 19 and traded them away. Don't be like me
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I'm a hoarder, doubt I will let it go for awhile.
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Great purchase Bill! Cool piece!
I have one of the modern 19 Carry Comps but have been waiting for the right opportunity to buy a pre lock one like yours.
These are beautiful on original combat stocks or, my favorite, original target round stocks.
I hope you enjoy your new piece!
Here’s a photo of mine wearing nicely grained vintage round target stocks.
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I have an F-Comp that I bought new in 1995. It originally came with rubber grips, which I replaced with a nice set of S&W finger-grooved combat grips (back when they were in current production as an accessory and didn't cost an arm and a leg). I wouldn't sell it for the world...
Congrats on your purchase...enjoy!
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What make and wood are the grips on the stainless one? They look awesome.
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Those are the original Factory supplied grips
I never bothered to try and look up the wood, but I believe that Altomonte was the OEM supplier to Smith & Wesson at the time
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Awesome guns n’ grips! Those round butt Altamontes (?) (looks like one oftheir wood offerings) are very classy against the dark finish I think.3 I will look up a f-comp for sale but with prices crazy the way they are, no telling what they are up to nowadays; true collectors value or no. If no luck then I’ll choose one of the two current offerings (L or K).
Not an unpleasant task!
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So the few stainless f-comps I found (m-66) awa. the examples that sold the past couple years, went for average of 2K; save one where the gentleman needed quicker cash. So it’s a non-stainless current offering for me now. I carry a K frame, but like the extra round in the L; and realize the recoil is less with the L frame given the same porting. Never had a recoil prob, but the less the better for that quicker 2nd shot in a social situation. Decisions decisions. My life could suck a lot more right now lol!
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